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Mark Mayhew · Joined: 11 Dec 2006 Posts: 2897

Listened to this show whilst driving out and about earlier today.

Not sure why we need a current affairs programme on a Bank Holiday-ideally I would prefer to be entertained by a more music focussed programme.

Indeed I do detect that Jeremy thinks he is a bit of a dj/presenter-he made a couple of quick of the cuff remarks to this effect today. Why not give Jeremy a run out/a try on a music led show-you never know he might be quite good.

gfloyd · Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 4:10 pm Post subject:

Yet again I find myself agreeing with Mark. Laughing

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Arcader · Joined: 11 Dec 2006 Posts: 220

More to the point, why can't we have a permanent break from Vine? He really is from the school of tabloid journalism and doesn't appear to have a clue what he's talking about.

He is also now of course the new presenter of the now extremely dumbed down Panorama. Rolling Eyes

Mark Mayhew · Joined: 11 Dec 2006 Posts: 2897

Cor wonders never cease Ernie.

How you doing today-no hangover hopefully.

Did you catch Richard Allinson today-he put on a fine performance/ delivered a good show.

mark occomore · Joined: 07 Dec 2006 Posts: 9955 Location: UK

Because it's part of radio 2 to deliver different types of shows which includes news and current affairs etc etc..

Helen May · Joined: 10 Dec 2006 Posts: 19382 Location: Cheshire

Nowt wrong with having Jeremy on a bank holiday. The news doesn't stop just because it's a holiday in the UK.....

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gfloyd · Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 4:32 pm Post subject:

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gfloyd · Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 4:41 pm Post subject:

Helen May · Joined: 10 Dec 2006 Posts: 19382 Location: Cheshire

I don't think they were scraping the barrel today at all. In fact the after 1 o'clock topics were as normal. Not everyone likes their routine completely disrupted just because it's a bank holiday!

The rest of the day hasn't been worth listening to either. I missed RA so may listen again as I've switched off the Irish guy and the female.

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gfloyd · Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 4:50 pm Post subject:

As Mark would say, Something for everyone. Laughing

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mark occomore · Joined: 07 Dec 2006 Posts: 9955 Location: UK

nod · Joined: 24 Dec 2006 Posts: 3558

"The rest of the day hasn't been worth listening to either"

Yes usual bank Holiday time fillers whilst the regulars get a day or two off.
As for JV don't like his tabloid news show anyway.

The Hamster made a change, not too exciting and poor format with the regular fillin technique of texting etc to occupy time, but he sounds a nice guy.

iain_smith · Guest

well at least youve got a break from him t his week while hes on holiday.What do you think of Julian Worricker sitting in for him?

Behind Geddon's Wall · Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 7:46 pm Post subject:

I've not heard him, but he is good on 5 live on a Sunday.

Iain, Long time, no hear.
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Cherskiy · Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 7:42 am Post subject:

Toggy tea slurper · Guest

I think he's pretty good, I don't mind JV but I find his voice grates after a while.

nod · Joined: 24 Dec 2006 Posts: 3558

He sounds much better than JV and his usual standins, except Kirsty Young who is good. Very Happy

Behind Geddon's Wall · Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 1:00 pm Post subject:

We could launch a campaign to replace JV with Julian Worricker.
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Cherskiy · Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 2:50 pm Post subject:

Actually, I'd probably support that, or at least someone who was a little bit more serious and didn't keep raising his voice several octaves every time a comment needed to be put across.

The more I listen to JV, the less I like - I haven't watched Panorama since it switched to the new slot because I just know I'll hate it. He was okay on the Politics Show when that began, because it was meant to be serious journalism, although even that started to go downhill a year or two back and I stopped watching it. The way he changes his voice when reading out the e-mails and texts - especially at the end of a sentence - is really beginning to grate on me.

I'm not wanting to be entertained in a news and current affairs slot - simply informed. Is that so difficult for the BBC to manage nowadays, or does everything have to be dumbed down?
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mark occomore · Joined: 07 Dec 2006 Posts: 9955 Location: UK

News dosn't stop because there is a bank holiday......... Shocked

firewirefred · Guest

But what is News???? Reith might have described the BBC and public service broadcasting as the Window on the World, but who decides where the window is to be - and how big is it?

The JV show is not a news programme - it is really a news analysis show mixed with L/E elements to give it a balance, so it can be dispensed with for a day here and there.

Heaven knows, there really is enough news analysis around the various outlets of the Beeb these days......

...... to much, in my opinion.

And I prefer not to listen to JV these days as well - what gets my goat is the way he gets rid of callers whilst they are in mid-flow and leaves them in limbo. I would be angry if he did that to me.

Lord Evan Elpuss · Joined: 10 Dec 2006 Posts: 3417 Location: Cloud Cuckoo Land

I wonder if two hours is long enough for that show. I does seem rushed some days, like the topic hasn't had enough time for proper discussion & comment before it's time to move on to the next one.
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Rob · Joined: 27 Feb 2007 Posts: 163 Location: Leicester

JV's show isn't designed to be informative. It's designed to fill air time and to encourage audience participation.

Clearly, current affairs have to be presented with a lighter touch on Radio 2 than they are on Radio 4. But Jimmy Young managed that for a great many years, allowing more time each for fewer topics. He was nicer to callers, too, rarely cutting them off in the middle of a well-reasoned point. When JV took over I started wondering if the producers were afraid of a well-reasoned point, so many were cut off in mid flow. The cynical might say that the producers were afraid that one point, well made, might kill a subject before it got going. That, at least, seems to have improved a little.

JV is capable of good journalism - at his best, he was excellent on Newnight. He obviously likes his music, too. But he's moved from The Times territory to somewhere between the Daily Mail and The Sun (presentation and production values, not political values!). Too many of the "discussions" on topics are carried out by people who have been chosed to generate more heat than light.

There are bits of decent presentation in between the hype. The Health Hour on a Monday is usually value for money, for example (assuming it doesn't make you feel queasy!). So it can be done, and Vine can do it. Just give him some production values and support worth of the letters "BBC".

Rob.

Cherskiy · Posted: Sat May 05, 2007 7:05 am Post subject:

Helen May · Joined: 10 Dec 2006 Posts: 19382 Location: Cheshire

It's not Jeremy who chooses the topics that feature on the show or the guests who participate. That is down the Editor and the various producers on the show.

Also the editor is the same guy who did the job for the last 10 years of the Jimmy Young prog......

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Toggy tea slurper · Guest

I know it's not Jeremy's fault but it would be good if they could have a little longer on each subject, sometimes it seems like they are over before they have begun. Maybe choosing less topics could be the answer.

Cherskiy · Posted: Sat May 05, 2007 9:28 pm Post subject:

Helen May · Joined: 10 Dec 2006 Posts: 19382 Location: Cheshire

Well I think we'll just have to agree to disagree on this one as I mostly find Jeremy fine.

I mention the topics situation because it's usually that which people are moaning about. I've been in the studio and seen the show go out, so can only report what I've seen.

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