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gfloyd
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Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 9:40 pm Post subject: Iranian captives can sell stories |
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The 15 Royal Navy personnel held captive by Iran are to be allowed to sell their stories to the media.
The Ministry of Defence said their experiences amounted to "exceptional circumstances" that allowed its usual ban on such payments to be lifted.
Source: BBC News
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Do you think this is right? These guys are going to get £20k or thereabouts from the Sun & the Mirror just for telling their stories. _________________ His name was ernie ........ and he drove the fastest milk cart in the west..... |
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Toggy tea slurper Guest
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Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 9:51 pm Post subject: |
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Yaaaawwwwnnnnn! the media circus has rumbled on for long enough regarding this story surely
Not that I care really as I hardly ever read newspapers, especailly the red tops. |
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gfloyd
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Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 9:53 pm Post subject: |
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Toggy tea slurper wrote: | Yaaaawwwwnnnnn! the media circus has rumbled on for long enough regarding this story surely
Not that I care really as I hardly ever read newspapers, especailly the red tops. |
Seeing as the average squaddie earns about £15k-£20k per year I can see a few more of them straying into Iranian waters after this gets out  _________________ His name was ernie ........ and he drove the fastest milk cart in the west..... |
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John W

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Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 12:50 am Post subject: |
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Maybe I'm cynical, but is this why the female member of the group has not appeared on TV so far, has she already sold her story to the News of the World for a bit more than 20k..... |
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seymourwhitebits

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Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 11:34 am Post subject: |
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either that or she's getting her modelling portfolio together!  _________________ "Timpani!, Timpani!, They've all got it Timpani!"- All drummers know the pain of skin trouble. |
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AndyAndy2 RAJARed Member

Joined: 08 Dec 2006 Posts: 548 Location: Newcastle Upon Tyne
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Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 9:22 am Post subject: |
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Wonder if their stories will include the following momentous decision..."Name, Rank, Serial number...Naaa, blow that - lets capitulate to everything so we can get out of here quickly..."
Shame on you. _________________ Some say he once threw a microwave oven at a tramp and that all his potted plants are called 'Steve'.....all we know is, he's called 'The Stig!'. |
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mark occomore
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Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 9:44 am Post subject: |
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This is how the world is now cheque book journalism. We will never know what really went on, whether is was the Iranians trying to get themselves back onto the map, or they are trying to make a quick few quid? It does seem like a media circus on both parts. Also I feel it's like the MOD are holding the government to count trying to get more money from them.
I suppose they have made money from this and don't even need to be in the force anymore. |
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John W

Joined: 07 Dec 2006 Posts: 3367 Location: Warwickshire, UK
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Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 9:53 am Post subject: |
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John W wrote: | Maybe I'm cynical, but is this why the female member of the group has not appeared on TV so far, has she already sold her story to the News of the World for a bit more than 20k..... |
Oh look, I was right, except it's the Sun she has gone to. Oh, and her knickers get a mention on the front page
They are not all doing it. I saw the smart lieutenant on BBC yesterday saying he can't wait to get back on duty in Iraq
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Toggy tea slurper Guest
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Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 10:29 am Post subject: |
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John W wrote: |
Oh look, I was right, except it's the Sun she has gone to. Oh, and her knickers get a mention on the front page
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Yeah, what a surprise eh? I expect she will be appearing on celebrity big brother or I'm a celebrity get me out of here in due course.
How pathetic it makes the whole lot of them look, I believe one of them will not sell his story, so well done to him. |
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Rachel Guest
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Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 11:50 am Post subject: |
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Iran missed a trick that would no doubt have captured the British imagination.....
they should have staged "I'm a captive get me out of here" live on the six-o'clock news every night......with a text number to save each of the prisoners....... who gets released tonight?.... you decide! |
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nod
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Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 12:53 pm Post subject: Re: Iranian captives can sell stories |
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gfloyd wrote: |
Do you think this is right? These guys are going to get £20k or thereabouts from the Sun & the Mirror just for telling their stories. |
There is talk of 6 figure sums , personally I don't think it should be allowed.
You can't blame the individuals for doing it if the money is being handed out but what about all the others out there doing their duty, and not getting captured, or the injured ones who always appear get a poor deal when they get back home, maybe the money should go in a fund for them. |
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gfloyd
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Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 8:56 pm Post subject: |
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I believe that the lady was on Tonight With Sir Trevor this evening. Did anyone see it? I wonder how much see got for that? _________________ His name was ernie ........ and he drove the fastest milk cart in the west..... |
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Barkingbiker

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Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 9:12 pm Post subject: |
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Well I couldn't understand why they were allowed to sell their story, and now there has been a very sharp U-turn, what a fiasco! Makes you wonder what really happened
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gfloyd
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Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 9:14 pm Post subject: |
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A quote from BBC NEWS:
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Meanwhile Arthur Batchelor, 20, the youngest of the British sailors to be held captive, told the Daily Mirror about his "nightmare" at the hands of his captors and how he "cried like a baby" in his cell.
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Maybe they were turning out to be a bit of an embarrasment. They might have been hoping for stories like Bravo Two-Zero and instead they got this  _________________ His name was ernie ........ and he drove the fastest milk cart in the west..... |
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iwarburton
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Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 9:24 pm Post subject: |
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Sunday: Sailors are given permission to sell stories.
Monday: Permission is withdrawn, too late to stop two participants.
Another day, another brick in the wall of farce which the running of our country has become.
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John W

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Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 9:04 am Post subject: |
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gfloyd wrote: | I believe that the lady was on Tonight With Sir Trevor this evening. Did anyone see it? I wonder how much see got for that? |
What about her knockers? |
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John W

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Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 9:05 am Post subject: |
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Sorry, that should have said knickers  |
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Cherskiy

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Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 11:22 am Post subject: |
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Uh-huh....  _________________ Author: “To the Ends of the Earth: A Snapshot of Aviation in North-Eastern Siberia, Summer 1992”
(Free to read via Kindle Unlimited) |
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Highlander

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Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 5:21 pm Post subject: |
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The whole thing is/was a disaster. as I understand it it was only the Royal Navy that allowed it. The Army Marines were not allowed to tell their stories. I thought it was all a propaganda ploy by the Government but it looks like they did not know what was going on (as usual). Finally the upset it caused to the families of those poor medics that were killed on the same day.
I felt a sense of pride seeing how these service personnel had behaved in Iran but now...for some...Shame?
It has just left a bad taste.
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AndyAndy2 RAJARed Member

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Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 6:56 am Post subject: |
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Highlander wrote: | I felt a sense of pride seeing how these service personnel had behaved in Iran but now...for some...Shame?
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Highlander, I really don't feel any pride for them. They capitulated too quickly. How are troops trained these days when faced with enemy capture? Anyone know?
I would have felt more pride if they'd said - stuff you, Johnny foreigner, we're British and all you get is Name, Rank, Serial no. I believe they've made Britain look weak and when it comes to Iran, Iraq, etc - we can't afford that. _________________ Some say he once threw a microwave oven at a tramp and that all his potted plants are called 'Steve'.....all we know is, he's called 'The Stig!'. |
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gfloyd
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Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 7:36 pm Post subject: |
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He was hoping it would be an ipod  _________________ His name was ernie ........ and he drove the fastest milk cart in the west..... |
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