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PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 4:02 pm    Post subject: BBC Moderators' Sense of Music/Humour Bypass Reply with quote

Three successful, longrunning threads on the R2 MB, light-heartedly recalling songs that might fit the themes of Easter/Religion, Summer and Lurve/Sex have suddenly, illogically and unreasonably been spiked by the Mods:-
http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/mbradio2/F4387184?thread=4035970
http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/mbradio2/F4387184?thread=4024864
http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/mbradio2/F4387184?thread=4038201

We are not amused, least of all Soulsister and mickemay, who started them off. Think someone either got out of bed the wrong side this morning or got left behind when everyone went off to the pub this lunchtime... Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 5:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Or is it that someone has reported them, which automatically means the message is hidden until a mod deals with it?
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 8:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is a film thread and I got modded for the classic quote from The Italian Job.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 8:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most of the threads over there seem to be about other threads about threads that were closed/ modded/ whatever. I fear they are slowly descending into Fifth Circle of Hell
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 8:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a quick look on there earlier and couldn't work out why all those titles had been hidden.

Complete madness if you ask me.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 9:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zis iz your BBC! You vill only talk about ze zings ve vill allow you to talk about.

Did you zink zis vas a democracy??????????

And P.S, I'm not trying to be funny here! Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 7:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've never really re-visited that place since we started here, why would you want to, this is a much nicer place.

Reading this thread took my mind back to those heady days of the old message boards....ah, how I miss the arguments and slaggings off... (Not)
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 7:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I look at the BBC Message Boards every now and again-I do tend to agree with other peoples comments about them these days-"breathe and your considered to be off topic".

It's a bizzare situation when people cannot post their comments about the presenters and shows anymore.

What is the BBC frightened of.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 10:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ian Robinson wrote:
Or is it that someone has reported them, which automatically means the message is hidden until a mod deals with it?


Admittedly my experience is limited, having only complained three times, but I don't think they use the "half-way house" for members' use of the button.

On all three occasions I "catpee'd" messages (at a weekend) which were trolls' personal criticism of presenters. Two were abusive and were completely removed immediately; the third was left open while they thought about it - I got the e-mail saying they thought it OK a couple of days later but at the same time the Host closed the whole thread as off-topic.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 7:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Behind Geddon's Wall wrote:
There is a film thread and I got modded for the classic quote from The Italian Job.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 9:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You gotta laugh Rolling Eyes

http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/mbradio2/F6148276?thread=4056951

The mods will only be happy when they have banned everyone for posting dissent from the party line.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 10:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gfloyd wrote:
You gotta laugh Rolling Eyes

http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/mbradio2/F6148276?thread=4056951

The mods will only be happy when they have banned everyone for posting dissent from the party line.


Tony Blair and the Board of Governers must be so proud of the totalitarian state they've created at OUR bbc Mad
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 9:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Who's Jane?

Bring back Sian Laughing Laughing

"off topic" is fast replacing "am I bovvered?( sic ) " as the most repeated phrase on the BBC Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 9:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Users who dont post the comments we tell them to, will be terminated.

Thanks, have a good weekend.

Jane"

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Who's Jane?

Arnie's sister perhaps?

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 3:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gfloyd wrote:
"Users who dont post the comments we tell them to, will be terminated.

Thanks, have a good weekend.

Jane"

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Who's Jane?

Arnie's sister perhaps?

Laughing Laughing Laughing


As long as she doesn't come knocking here asking for my clothes, my boots and my motorcycle.... Cheeky wench! Laughing Laughing
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 3:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If she's the HOST I would hate to meet the doormen at the new Radio 2 message board! Laughing
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 4:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jane was the one who posted messages on all of the old boards asking what we wanted, then 2 weeks later announced that most of them would be closing.......

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gfloyd wrote:
If she's the HOST I would hate to meet the doormen at the new Radio 2 message board! Laughing


They probably kick 7 bells out of you, then frisk you for valuables before throwing you out the door Shocked
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 8:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jane certainly seems to be a hawk amongst the pigeons there.

When prompted publicly, Sian eventually reinstated the three original posts, explaining that they'd been spiked following a member's complaint about them being off-topic, which sounds to me as if someone was being deliberately disruptive and spiteful, or even vindictive.

I notice Peter's thread about the late Kurt Vonnegut has also been reinstated, though one of jason's contributions got the thumbs down, much to his umbridge.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 8:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A little light-hearted list of what mark Nicolas might have played on his show got closed for being off - topic. I fail to understand why the boards can be used to promote programmes that otherwise no-one would listen to, then close them again as "off-topic" when listeners make comments.

The words take over, lunatics and asylum spring readily to mind.
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It's about shrinking extremism..... once they'd got rid of the extremists, then extreme is what was once mainstream... so now the mainstreamists have become extremists and are subject to moderation and banning. Slowly but surely, they will be marched off the boards leaving only the pure conformists. They are the posters who think that posting a message about anything at all is ... well, lets face it... a bit extreme ... so they don't post at all, making the job of the moderator much easier. The problems with that will really kick-in when the BBC who measure the performance of the moderators using the metric of total posts moderated, rewarding the moderators with a performance related salary review. When they check the metric on how many posts have been moderated, and the result is zero ( cos there aren't any posters)... the moderators will have performed poorly... so this is what I predict will happen ... the moderation will become more and more draconian, making the moderators metrics on moderation look good. This works really well in the short term but as more and more posters are driven away ... the moderators posts moderated metrics will fall sharply, so they'll need to start encouraging people to come back and post just to keep their moderation metrics up at a good level, otherwise the BBC will conclude that moderators are no longer required , sack them all and then it will be open season again.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 10:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gotta love how they are obviously using BBC publicity notes in their opening posts. They try to disguise it with an opener like "The sunny weather last weekend got me thinking about .......... a new 6 part documentary on Matt Monroe's career......."

If you dare post asking for them to share their thoughts on the topic, you will not get a reply for the obvious reason that they dont give a fig about the topic under discussion and are just posting what the publicity dept have given them.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 11:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello! I see you've had your query answered but for future - You can get a list of all the music played on Radio 2 on the playlist page here:

This is a quote from Sian - one of the so-called hosts.

Apparently, we can't even ask each other about music Now!!

What is the World (or more accurately, the BBC Boards) coming to????
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 11:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rachel wrote:
It's about shrinking extremism..... once they'd got rid of the extremists, then extreme is what was once mainstream... so now the mainstreamists have become extremists and are subject to moderation and banning. Slowly but surely, they will be marched off the boards leaving only the pure conformists. They are the posters who think that posting a message about anything at all is ... well, lets face it... a bit extreme ... so they don't post at all, making the job of the moderator much easier. The problems with that will really kick-in when the BBC who measure the performance of the moderators using the metric of total posts moderated, rewarding the moderators with a performance related salary review. When they check the metric on how many posts have been moderated, and the result is zero ( cos there aren't any posters)... the moderators will have performed poorly... so this is what I predict will happen ... the moderation will become more and more draconian, making the moderators metrics on moderation look good. This works really well in the short term but as more and more posters are driven away ... the moderators posts moderated metrics will fall sharply, so they'll need to start encouraging people to come back and post just to keep their moderation metrics up at a good level, otherwise the BBC will conclude that moderators are no longer required , sack them all and then it will be open season again.


Rachel, any chance I could have an idiot-proof version of this that I could understand? Laughing Laughing Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 12:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think that Rachel is referring to the law of diminishing returns.

Consider an onion.
Once you remove the outside layer, there is a new outside layer. If you continue to remove the extreme outside layers, youare left with nothing.

QED.
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Behind Geddon's Wall wrote:
I think that Rachel is referring to the law of diminishing returns.

Consider an onion.
Once you remove the outside layer, there is a new outside layer. If you continue to remove the extreme outside layers, youare left with nothing.

QED.


That's not strictly true Geddon... You'd have a hell of a lot of peeled onion Wink
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 1:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you discard each outer layer you are left with nothing
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 1:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Behind Geddon's Wall wrote:
If you discard each outer layer you are left with nothing


Geddon, I do understand what Rachel is on about- I'm just funning ya mate!

Although I've got a mate with a hot dog stand wants to know what you're gonna do with all that spare onion Wink Very Happy
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Am I causing trouble again Very Happy .... Don't start on on me or I'll post some of my spoof Drivetime Show scripts........although having said that.....quite a lot of the stuff I joked about way back is in the show... Smile Spooky....

Geddon, Onions is exactly what I was thinking.... Very Happy ....It's all a load of onions; reminds me of the Onion song... The world is just one great big Onion....de dum de dum da de dum .(or however it goes)... I can't look a jar of pickeld onions in the face without thinking of that song.... Wink
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PJ in Kent wrote:
Behind Geddon's Wall wrote:
I think that Rachel is referring to the law of diminishing returns.

Consider an onion.
Once you remove the outside layer, there is a new outside layer. If you continue to remove the extreme outside layers, youare left with nothing.

QED.


That's not strictly true Geddon... You'd have a hell of a lot of peeled onion Wink

Not to mention a kitchen to bale out after all that boo hooing Crying or Very sad
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Sorry, guys. I'm feeling a little crook today with a headache that won't shift. i suppose I should stop playing Devil's Gun on the old mp3.
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A lie-down in a darkened room for you then Geddon.
Hope it shifts soon mate.
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Rachel wrote:
It's about shrinking extremism..... once they'd got rid of the extremists, then extreme is what was once mainstream... so now the mainstreamists have become extremists and are subject to moderation and banning. Slowly but surely, they will be marched off the boards leaving only the pure conformists. They are the posters who think that posting a message about anything at all is ... well, lets face it... a bit extreme ... so they don't post at all, making the job of the moderator much easier. The problems with that will really kick-in when the BBC who measure the performance of the moderators using the metric of total posts moderated, rewarding the moderators with a performance related salary review. When they check the metric on how many posts have been moderated, and the result is zero ( cos there aren't any posters)... the moderators will have performed poorly... so this is what I predict will happen ... the moderation will become more and more draconian, making the moderators metrics on moderation look good. This works really well in the short term but as more and more posters are driven away ... the moderators posts moderated metrics will fall sharply, so they'll need to start encouraging people to come back and post just to keep their moderation metrics up at a good level, otherwise the BBC will conclude that moderators are no longer required , sack them all and then it will be open season again.


Say all that again in about ten words or less, Rachel? Laughing
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I think Rachel is saying in 10 words or less

"drive all the posters away, then Auntie fires the mods"


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gfloyd wrote:
I think Rachel is saying in 10 words or less

"drive all the posters away, then Auntie fires the mods"


Laughing


Oh that's beautiful Ernie...... Very Happy ..... ....
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Rachel wrote:
gfloyd wrote:
I think Rachel is saying in 10 words or less

"drive all the posters away, then Auntie fires the mods"


Laughing


Oh that's beautiful Ernie...... Very Happy ..... ....
I used to regularly win 3rd prize in "complete the slogan" competitions. The number of weekends away in Bognor Regis that I have won I could count on one hand Laughing
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gfloyd wrote:
I think Rachel is saying in 10 words or less
"drive all the posters away, then Auntie fires the mods"
Laughing


And in ten words, Ernie.... Smile

Now Rachel, why couldn't you have just said that? Good job I'm not on a dial-up connection! Laughing
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Cherskiy wrote:
gfloyd wrote:
I think Rachel is saying in 10 words or less
"drive all the posters away, then Auntie fires the mods"
Laughing


And in ten words, Ernie.... Smile

Now Rachel, why couldn't you have just said that? Good job I'm not on a dial-up connection! Laughing


Maybe Rachel has shares in BT? Laughing
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or shares in FBG perhaps PJ? fnarr fnarr Twisted Evil
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Seymour, I wish mate Laughing
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