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nod
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Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 8:23 am Post subject: R2 evening schedules, do you listen ? |
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I used to listen to MR every evening, but since the new schedule I just can't get into the shows that are on after 10pm. 8pm is too early for the his new show for me.
So now I don't listen at all in the evenings after 8pm, except Bob harris on Saturdays 11pm.
Do you listen to R2 in the evenings ? |
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iknewdavidjacobsmum
Joined: 07 Dec 2006 Posts: 336
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Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 9:14 am Post subject: |
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Not often. I usually listen again in the evenings to the bits I missed, like the Cohen interview |
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mark occomore
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Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 10:32 am Post subject: |
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Like you I do tune into Bob Harris. I do think some of the shows are on too late for likes of the older listeners, and if they havn't got computers then how will they be able to catch up with these shows? I suppose Mark and Stuarts show is to attract the younger listener away from Radio 1 and other networks, but I just think the structure isn't catering for all. |
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Helen May
Joined: 10 Dec 2006 Posts: 19382 Location: Cheshire
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Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 10:45 am Post subject: |
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I don't think it's just older listeners who lose out Mark, apart from maybe fewer having computers to 'listen again'.
I don't listen much on a regular basis between 8 and 10 unless there is a documentary or series that has been trailed during the day. I'm more inclined to listen after 10.30 out of habit, but would much prefer a similar type of programme on each night.
The earlier slot IMHO is more of a relaxation time when the brain is ready to take in something different and to maybe reflect on whatever is being said.
I do think they have got it wrong with the new schedule as I don't listen late anymore.
H _________________ 88 - 91 FM this is Radio 2 from the BBC!
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John W
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Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 12:59 pm Post subject: |
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Unfortunately for Radcliffe his early evening show came in around the time Radio 3 brought proper classical music back to early evenings so his show has never had me as a regular.
My Radio 2 listening must be at an all time low now. Partly due to the much-improved Radio3 but also I don't get up early any more, so no Sarah K for me now.
Last week I only listened to Desmond and FNIMN. If I go up the pub tonight I will miss Russel D and Malcolm L, so I will have listened to just two shows the whole week
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Cherskiy
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Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 2:36 pm Post subject: |
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I occasionally listen to 30 minutes or so of Radcliffe and Maconie every couple of nights. I try to catch Bob's Thursday show most weeks but usually it's via "Listen Again" on a Friday or Sunday evening. Most of the other programmes pass me by completely now, and I usually forget or don't have time to listen to the documentaries via "Listen Again".
AFAIC, my once cosy evenings on R2 have been completely wrecked. I'm happy to listen to the lads after 2000 and I do enjoy what they do, but not necessarily at the expense of virtually everything else I used to happily tune into. _________________ Author: “To the Ends of the Earth: A Snapshot of Aviation in North-Eastern Siberia, Summer 1992”
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gfloyd
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Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 2:49 pm Post subject: |
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The 8pm Radcliffe & Maconie show sounds like a second Chris Evans show. I tuned in for the first time this week & thought for a moment that it was Evans Saturday show. Lots of talk, stories from the papers, trivia, etc. Nothing wrong with it in itself, but very oddly scheduled as a mid evening show.
I think the odd start times of the post 10pm shows make them impossible to remember. You need a wall planner to remember what's on at 23.30 on Wednesday versus 22.30 on Thursday. _________________ His name was ernie ........ and he drove the fastest milk cart in the west..... |
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Cherskiy
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Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 2:53 pm Post subject: |
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Which is probably why I've given up. Too much to keep track of. _________________ Author: “To the Ends of the Earth: A Snapshot of Aviation in North-Eastern Siberia, Summer 1992”
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Lord Evan Elpuss
Joined: 10 Dec 2006 Posts: 3417 Location: Cloud Cuckoo Land
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Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 3:05 pm Post subject: |
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My R2 listening has dipped too. I like the Radcliffe/Maconie show (though the cowbell thing ['Stuff'n'nonsense' spots] is now wearing thin on me) To me it's like being the proverbial 'fly on the wall' at a lads night out at the pub! I do miss some of the speciality shows that have been shunted forward to the very late night spot (SOT70s & Album Chart Show to name two) but midweek afternoons are a virtual no-go area (do I really need to say why?) as are Saturday evenings, I might have listened to the Genesis thing but for the narrator, I just didn't think I could take it seriously with Chris Evans! I did stay longer with R2 yesterday morning though, Mark Lamarr was good doing Jonathan Ross' show, Otherwise I would have been gone from 10:00am till 2:00pm when Stuart Maconie comes on. People have moaned on here about Pete Mitchell (as is their right) but I didn't mind him doing Dermot O'Leary's show yesterday. The only increase in my listenership comes on Sunday afternoon. I didn't mind Lulu's show when she was on before Ed Stewart (He should still be on R2 somewhere, I believe there is a place for an 'anything goes' request show, & yes, so should Richard Allinson) And I like Pick Of The Pops followed by Johnnie Walker. With the other Sunday shows (PM) It's not the presenter but the content which just isn't really for me but that alone is no reason to axe them. _________________ Lord Evan Elpuss, Your ideal job is a Lumberjack. |
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Cherskiy
Joined: 08 Dec 2006 Posts: 3701 Location: near Amble, Northumberland
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Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 5:10 pm Post subject: |
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Hmmm - I'm still in two minds whether to listen to the Charterhouse doc - on the one hand, I'm interested in the subject, but not the narrator! Was Chris doing it because he was giving away the Genesis tickets a few weeks ago? _________________ Author: “To the Ends of the Earth: A Snapshot of Aviation in North-Eastern Siberia, Summer 1992”
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Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 5:13 pm Post subject: |
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I never listen in the evening, but then again I never have.... |
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PJ in Kent
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Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 5:13 pm Post subject: |
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Perhaps Dame Lesley is trying to persuade us Chris Evans is a "serious" broadcaster _________________ He's not the Messiah- he's a very naughty boy! |
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gfloyd
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Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 5:17 pm Post subject: |
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He did the Channel 4 interview with George Michael recently in Wembley. Personally I dont need to hear an other interview with George Michael, the Stones or Genesis anything in the next 50 years. _________________ His name was ernie ........ and he drove the fastest milk cart in the west..... |
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Helen May
Joined: 10 Dec 2006 Posts: 19382 Location: Cheshire
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Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 7:28 pm Post subject: |
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gfloyd wrote: |
I think the odd start times of the post 10pm shows make them impossible to remember. You need a wall planner to remember what's on at 23.30 on Wednesday versus 22.30 on Thursday. |
Couldn't agree more Ernie, and by that time of day I've had enough of timetables!
H _________________ 88 - 91 FM this is Radio 2 from the BBC!
I said it live on air in the studio with Jeremy Vine on 10/3/2005 |
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Barkingbiker
Joined: 11 Dec 2006 Posts: 2313 Location: Lincolnshire
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Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 9:00 pm Post subject: |
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I listen to the lads when ever I can in an evening, I thoroughly enjoy their show, especially the live spots, the chain, Noddy and the true and false what ever they call it. As for it being a second CE show, come on the whole thing is so much better than Driveltime, CE's not even in the Conference League while the lads are most definitely Premier League, IMHO. I also listen to Paul Jones, Bob Harris Country and his Saturday show, Suzie Q and occasionally Mike Harding but don't normally listen to shows after 10 PM, apart from to catch up with what I have missed.
BB _________________ Old Bikers Never Die, our leathers just get tighter! |
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mark occomore
Joined: 07 Dec 2006 Posts: 9955 Location: UK
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Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 5:18 am Post subject: |
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I did think the show was going to be a evening session similar to what Mark Goodier help develop in 1990 over on Radio 1 and hosted himself? I suppose the idea is good, but is it right for Radio 2? |
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RockitRon
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Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 9:29 am Post subject: |
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Living in a family where TV rules and we tend to have our evening meal around 7 means that I miss the folk, blues, country and Desmond Carrington that I used to try and catch. Although some of the music is good, I cannot stand Mark Radcliffe's presentation and delivery for very long (Stuart Maconie is almost anonymous alongside him) so if there's nothing of quality on the haunted fishtank I'll listen to my own CDs.
After ten Radio 2's schedule resembles a patchwork quilt and unless Jools has got someone really interesting on I'll go to Iain Anderson (or Ricky Ross while he's on holiday) over on BBC Radio Scotland.
If two hours must be allocated to Radcliffe and Maconie, I would have thought that 7-9 would have been the ideal slot - there'd also be less of a crunching gear change from what precedes it then. _________________ Ron |
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gfloyd
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Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 10:10 am Post subject: |
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Barkingbiker wrote: | As for it being a second CE show, come on the whole thing is so much better than Driveltime, CE's not even in the Conference League while the lads are most definitely Premier League, IMHO
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Radcliffe & Maconie have made a surprise entry into the zoo radio format stakes.
I didnt say it was the same show, just that it sounds similar from a presentational aspect.
Whether its Radcliffe & Maconie's music trivia, Evans lifestyle trivia or even Steve Wright's factoids its all trivia at the end of the day (or all day long as radio 2 now would have us sit through). My point is that all these shows SOUND too similar (presenter quirks apart). One or at most two of these shows per day is fine, but where is the variety if its wall to wall from 2-10pm?
Radio 2 really needs a music focussed show somewhere in the afternoon. Virgin have Suggs in the afternoon. Radio 2 could do worse than have something similar in type. _________________ His name was ernie ........ and he drove the fastest milk cart in the west..... |
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Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 10:29 am Post subject: |
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Evening listening is varied in our house depending on, if it's a Coronation Street day or not.
On Mon, Wed and Fri we carry-on listening after Drivetime but just for 30 minutes until the Street comes on. ( Extend Drivetime please- you know it makes sense) On Tuesdays and Thursdays the Radio is switched off when Chris says goodbye.
I have some difficulty with to SM and MR, they shouldn't be allowed out. Very few people in the world irritate me to the point of pain but with those two together, the irritation level is greater than the sum of the individual parts. Each time I tried, it hurt so much to listen to them; the effort required to haul my pain racked carcass across the lounge floor to switch off the radio left me exhausted and near to death. So convinced that I was near the end one night I left a note for my husband and pinned it to my chest. It read; "Darling, we will get to the off switch but if I don't make it, promise me this; you'll use my body as food and then continue until you reach the off switch and stand triumphantly in the golden silence that follows."
So we don't listen much in the evening...... |
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Mark Mayhew
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Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 10:32 am Post subject: |
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Blimey Ernie-I posted on another thread recently that I thought Suggs and his Afternoon Tea Show on Virgin Radio was very good-you seem to be agreeing with me.
It is as you say a music devoted show-I do think it helps to have a musically focussed presenter-Suggs does indeed know his music very well-I like his sensible comments on the songs/artists he covers/plays etc. |
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Ian Robinson Site Admin
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Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 11:12 am Post subject: |
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I do enjoy Radcliffe & Maconie but the slot just isn't right - I'd be happy to have them on later when I'm winding down or as the background to reading a book or something, but at 8-10 I'm usually doing something else and don't feel inclined to tune in.
Meanwhile, I'm neglecting all the specialist shows I do fancy (like the Tuesday documentary) because, by 11pm or midnight, I just can't be bothered. And I don't have the time or inclination to Listen Again.
For me, the worst change is 7pm Monday. I loved Simon Mayo's Album Chart Show and thought it really set up the week: a show you could dip into and out of after a busy day but still feel you've learnt something about the current music scene - information that would feed into the music heard on the network for the rest of the week. But I'm afraid that Paul Jones just doesn't do it for me. |
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gfloyd
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Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 11:49 am Post subject: |
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Paul Jones playing the blues on Monday nights at just after 7 isn't right. Why not put it on Monday at dawn to heighten the Monday blues
Neither is Mike Harding being let on the radio on Wednesdays at 7pm with no warning. At lease when we had a DMZ of an hours country music before the folk music menace there was some inkling of what was about to come.......... _________________ His name was ernie ........ and he drove the fastest milk cart in the west..... |
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SantaFefan
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PJ in Kent
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Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 6:03 pm Post subject: |
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"The Folk Music Menace"
Where are their WMD's and how long would they take to deploy them???
Should I buy a tin helmet and hunker down in the bunker?
_________________ He's not the Messiah- he's a very naughty boy! |
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nod
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Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 6:09 pm Post subject: |
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Mark Mayhew wrote: | Blimey Ernie-I posted on another thread recently that I thought Suggs and his Afternoon Tea Show on Virgin Radio was very good-you seem to be agreeing with me.
It is as you say a music devoted show-I do think it helps to have a musically focussed presenter-Suggs does indeed know his music very well-I like his sensible comments on the songs/artists he covers/plays etc. |
I mentioned Suggs Virgin show a few months ago, better than SW |
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gfloyd
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Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 6:23 pm Post subject: |
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PJ in Kent wrote: | "The Folk Music Menace"
Where are their WMD's and how long would they take to deploy them???
Should I buy a tin helmet and hunker down in the bunker?
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Folk music to me sounds like the noise cats make when they are experiencing gastric problems.
I dont mind folk music being played, but I think there should be a general alert at least 30 minutes beforehand to allow innocent people to seek cover. _________________ His name was ernie ........ and he drove the fastest milk cart in the west..... |
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gfloyd
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Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 6:24 pm Post subject: |
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Mark Mayhew wrote: | Blimey Ernie-I posted on another thread recently that I thought Suggs and his Afternoon Tea Show on Virgin Radio was very good-you seem to be agreeing with me.
It is as you say a music devoted show-I do think it helps to have a musically focussed presenter-Suggs does indeed know his music very well-I like his sensible comments on the songs/artists he covers/plays etc. |
Yes wonders never cease - we are agreeing
Suggs would never work on Radio 2 - he doesnt talk enough. _________________ His name was ernie ........ and he drove the fastest milk cart in the west..... |
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Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 6:26 pm Post subject: |
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Cherskiy wrote: | Hmmm - I'm still in two minds whether to listen to the Charterhouse doc - on the one hand, I'm interested in the subject, but not the narrator! Was Chris doing it because he was giving away the Genesis tickets a few weeks ago? |
That is my view entirely. I would be quite interested to hear the docs, but it's having to listen to the voice of the prat presenting it that puts me off big time. In other words, no thanks. |
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gfloyd
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Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 6:28 pm Post subject: |
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delete doble post _________________ His name was ernie ........ and he drove the fastest milk cart in the west..... |
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Helen May
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Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 6:35 pm Post subject: |
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firewirefred wrote: | Cherskiy wrote: | Hmmm - I'm still in two minds whether to listen to the Charterhouse doc - on the one hand, I'm interested in the subject, but not the narrator! Was Chris doing it because he was giving away the Genesis tickets a few weeks ago? |
That is my view entirely. I would be quite interested to hear the docs, but it's having to listen to the voice of the prat presenting it that puts me off big time. In other words, no thanks. |
I feel the same as both of you. It looks like I'll have to forgo what will probably be an interesting documentary.
H _________________ 88 - 91 FM this is Radio 2 from the BBC!
I said it live on air in the studio with Jeremy Vine on 10/3/2005 |
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Ian Robinson Site Admin
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Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 6:58 pm Post subject: |
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If you really want to listen to those documentaries, you shouldn't let Chris Evans put you off - I'm sure he'll only be doing a bit of talking between clips. They probably couldn't afford Brad Pitt this time... |
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Cherskiy
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Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 7:20 pm Post subject: |
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Hey, what's all the fuss about folk music anyway? Some of the best contemporary female vocalists around today (okay, IMHO! ) would be classified as folkies - Karine Polwart and Julie Fowlis. No cat-strangling in earshot!
Whilst I'm not too heavily into trad folk and filks, the bits around the edges (the alt-stuff) can be really beautiful listening. _________________ Author: “To the Ends of the Earth: A Snapshot of Aviation in North-Eastern Siberia, Summer 1992”
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gfloyd
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Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 8:55 pm Post subject: |
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Cherskiy wrote: |
Hey, what's all the fuss about folk music anyway? |
I think it all the earnestness & sincerity that goes with it. Plus all the cat whailing of course.
Maybe I'm just irredeemably shallow? _________________ His name was ernie ........ and he drove the fastest milk cart in the west..... |
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PJ in Kent
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I don't know- nothing wrong with a bit of Hey-Nonny-No every so often
Anyone heard any of Blackmore's Night stuff, as a matter of personal curiousity? _________________ He's not the Messiah- he's a very naughty boy! |
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gazmando
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Dancing in the moonlight
Singing in the rain
Oh it's good to be back home again
Laughing in the sunlight
Running down the lane
Oh it's good to be back home again |
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Barkingbiker
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gfloyd wrote: | Cherskiy wrote: |
Hey, what's all the fuss about folk music anyway? |
I think it all the earnestness & sincerity that goes with it. Plus all the cat whailing of course.
Maybe I'm just irredeemably shallow? |
Well maybe you are ernie, Bob Dylan is folk, The Pogues is folk, The Chieftians is folk, Sandie Denny is folk, The Corrs is folk, Gordon Lightfoot is folk, Pete Seegar is folk, Ralph McTell is folk, The Dubliners is folk; how diverse does it need to be for you to find something you like, this is the trouble with putting music in pigeon holes and saying you don't like it. Bit like country music, how many of your 60's pop covers were originally country songs, too many to mention, yet loadsa people say "I don't like country" yet you hear them humming or whistling Green Green Grass of Home, or the like. I like what I like, don't care if it's jazz, pop, classical, country, folk, heavy metal, blues, R & B, if it's music I like, I listen. Maybe you should listen to Bob Harris more, there is something there for every one, IMHO.
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gazmando
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Perfectly put Mr Biker. |
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Cherskiy
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Barkingbiker wrote: | Well maybe you are ernie, Bob Dylan is folk, The Pogues is folk, The Chieftians is folk, Sandie Denny is folk, The Corrs is folk, Gordon Lightfoot is folk, Pete Seegar is folk, Ralph McTell is folk, The Dubliners is folk; how diverse does it need to be for you to find something you like, this is the trouble with putting music in pigeon holes and saying you don't like it. Bit like country music, how many of your 60's pop covers were originally country songs, too many to mention, yet loadsa people say "I don't like country" yet you hear them humming or whistling Green Green Grass of Home, or the like. I like what I like, don't care if it's jazz, pop, classical, country, folk, heavy metal, blues, R & B, if it's music I like, I listen. Maybe you should listen to Bob Harris more, there is something there for every one, IMHO.
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What he said!
I only 'label' tracks in my review as it's easier for people to identify with what I'm talking about, but I'd echo BB's statements above wholeheartedly. _________________ Author: “To the Ends of the Earth: A Snapshot of Aviation in North-Eastern Siberia, Summer 1992”
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Cherskiy
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Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 6:57 pm Post subject: |
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Ian Robinson wrote: | If you really want to listen to those documentaries, you shouldn't let Chris Evans put you off - I'm sure he'll only be doing a bit of talking between clips. They probably couldn't afford Brad Pitt this time... |
Ian, I heard the trailer for this during my "Listen Again" to Bob's Saturday Show - CE was in his usual 'shouty' mode during the trail, and it was enough to put me off entirely. A pity, since I would have listened if someone a little less intense was narrating it. _________________ Author: “To the Ends of the Earth: A Snapshot of Aviation in North-Eastern Siberia, Summer 1992”
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Ian Robinson Site Admin
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Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 7:03 pm Post subject: |
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Cherskiy wrote: | Ian Robinson wrote: | If you really want to listen to those documentaries, you shouldn't let Chris Evans put you off - I'm sure he'll only be doing a bit of talking between clips. They probably couldn't afford Brad Pitt this time... |
Ian, I heard the trailer for this during my "Listen Again" to Bob's Saturday Show - CE was in his usual 'shouty' mode during the trail, and it was enough to put me off entirely. A pity, since I would have listened if someone a little less intense was narrating it. |
Actually, yeah I heard that trailer too and sadly I have to agree
In fact, Bob himself would have been perfect, I'd have thought. |
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