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gfloyd · Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 2:16 pm Post subject: Dubious Practices At BBC

BBC Press Office Release:
Comic Relief, transmitted on Friday 16 March 2007 on BBC One
In a section of the appeal programme, viewers were invited to donate money to Comic Relief and were informed that by calling in they could win prizes which belonged to a famous couple. The first two callers taken on air gave incorrect answers. The other waiting callers were lost and a third caller was heard on air successfully answering the question. This caller was in fact not a viewer but a member of the production team.

TMi, transmitted on 16 September 2006 on BBC Two and CBBC
Following a production problem with a live competition, viewers were led to believe that a member of the audience was involved and won a competition open to the public. In fact, the caller was a member of the production team. The programme team failed to seek proper advice before running the competition.

Sport Relief, transmitted on 15 July 2006 on BBC One
Viewers were led to believe that a member of the public was involved in and won a competition open to the public, whereas the caller was in fact a member of the production team. The BBC has found evidence that this action was planned as a contingency in advance and that the physical infrastructure of the competition meant that it would have been impossible for it to be run as was described on air, and warnings about potential difficulties in conducting the competition were ignored. This incident was not referred up nor was it declared to a BBC audit in March.

Children in Need, transmitted on 18 November 2005 on BBC One Scotland
In a segment called Raven:The Island in the BBC's Children in Need appeal's Scotland broadcast in 2005, viewers were led to believe that a phone-in competition, open to the audience, had been won by a viewer, when in fact, due to a technical mistake, calls from the public did not get through and the name of a fictitious winner was read out on air.

The Liz Kershaw Show, transmitted in 2005/6 on BBC 6 Music
In pre-recorded programmes, presented as if they were live, a competition was announced which appeared to feature genuine listeners phoning in to take part, one of whom would win a prize on air. In fact, in recorded programmes, there were no competitions or prizes and all of the callers were actually members of production team and their friends. A new producer took over the programme in December 2006 and stopped the practices as a matter of priority.

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Hmmm. Dubious practices seem to be widespread in the Beeb.
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They do seem rather widespread but I'm sure it's the case with ITV, Channel 4, etc.

All this phone in stuff really does need sorting out once and for all..

gfloyd · Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 2:36 pm Post subject:

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I'm not defending them, I agree it's out of order, I have personally thought all these phone-ins were a rip off one way or another.

gfloyd · Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 4:19 pm Post subject:

Chris Evans has wriiten a pretty disingenious blog about this today.

Shame on you Chris.

Re his point about no more quizes, presumably in addition to Women's Minute, PopMaster is also now suspended.
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gfloyd · Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 5:12 pm Post subject:

and now any contrary messages are being censored off the blog. I can understand why abusive idiots posts are removed, but why are sensible disagreements with some of the nonsense he has posted this afternoon been censored?

I seem to recall Chris making light of this whole scandal when it first erupted. I sense he knows more than he is letting on.
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Ian Robinson · Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 5:32 pm Post subject:

I can think of at least, ooh, 2 Saturday afternoon Radio 2 programmes that have done something similar to that of Liz Kershaw's show!

gfloyd · Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 5:44 pm Post subject:

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Ernie-If popmaster is suspended with immediate effect can we hope the same happens to Mr Bruce-lets hope so. I'm keeping my fingers crossed.

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Oh for gods sake Mark give it a rest Rolling Eyes

Ken happens to be one of the most popular presenters on radio 2 and is going nowhere.

*goes to read the Chris blog*

John W · Joined: 07 Dec 2006 Posts: 3367 Location: Warwickshire, UK

Anyone here ever won a BBC phone-in?

gfloyd · Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 7:25 pm Post subject:

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I have never taken part in a phone in let alone won one.

Just read the blog, not very exciting really, I can't work out if he's trying to make light of the situation still or if he's worried because he's done something wrong . Confused

I am sure he knows a lot more than he's letting on though.

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Ernie- "Stand ins botched up Popmaster."

Can you explain further please.

gfloyd · Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 7:38 pm Post subject:

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I expect some P45's are being typed out already.

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Behind Geddon's Wall · Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 7:53 am Post subject:

Please remember, that unlike ITV and Channel 4 no vast sums of money were ripped off the populace.

It would appear,despite the red-top headlines that the crime was that of panic and incompetence rather than any malicious intent.
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gfloyd · Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 8:26 am Post subject:

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Has anyone read the Chris Evans blogs today/

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"The Beeb and it's staff are still reeling from the last twenty four hours. personally I'm already bored with it all and wish our presenters would stop moaning about it on the air, especially as they seem to be doing so via extremely weak half hearted attempts at irony. If your show can't survive without a phone competition then maybe you should consider another line of work, like a trappist monk for example"

I like Chris but this makes him sound like a self righteous little sh*t.

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gfloyd · Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 7:34 am Post subject:

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He was clearly having a go at Ken and I personally think he's out of order, as you say Chris has used phone-ins as much as anyone else. I think in the case of Popmaster Ken is right to feel agrieved as it is a pretty big part of his show.

gfloyd · Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 7:43 am Post subject:

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I think he has every right to moan about it but that's just my opinion.

Loved Terry's comment before the 8:30 news *plays news jingle* "Radio 2 from your beleagured BBC" Laughing

gfloyd · Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 8:08 am Post subject:

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I tend to side with TW and KB on this one. I think that putting stuff like Popmaster on hold is just plain stupid - and is merely a knee-jerk reaction from the kind of pussies who're in senior management positions within the BBC these days.

It's all being done to appease politicians - and the blue-rinse, hand-bag waving Daily Mail brigade. God help us all.

PS: And I think Chris Evans should keep his gob shut - if that's at all possible.

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