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RockitRon
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Excellent and varied show, I thought.
Shoot the person who lists the Music Played on the SOTS page though - showing Bachelor Boy by Darren Day from the stage show. One of the Shadows CDs is full of out-takes and the inclusion of this track of Cliff's presumably means there's one of his as well.
Lucky the person who requested the "hard to find" Bob Seger track, getting the 4CD box set. Just looked at it on Amazon - a mighty treasure trove at £26.98. Hope they haven't bent the BBC embargo on competitions etc too far.
No Hollies track this week! 
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I noticed that on the track listing for the show and couldn't believe it <yikes> .
Obviously typed up by someone who wasn't around in the sixties!
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My sister hated Bryan Ferry's cover of It's Only Love (on the Extended Play EP where he also did The Price Of Love)!
She had a friend who was a Roxy Music fan, and she'd tease her mercilessly about Ferry's 'Hitler' hair.
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Heard only the first half today. Shall catch up on Listen Again sometime in the week.
As ever a great selection, presented with all BM's easy charm but again it's being let down a bit by slipshod research. There's no way that Jan and Dean's version of Norwegian Wood could have come from 1963.
Great to hear Rolf Harris' Sun Arise again!
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I missed a lot of today's show as well Ian.
I'd agree with you on the Norwegian Wood point. I think the producer has been listening to too many US Oldie stations. They are not always correct with their historical data..........
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Really enjoyed the show today,the new producer's starting to get the balance about right.
Agree with Ian about Sunarise,it's always been a great track.
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| iwarburton wrote: | | As ever a great selection, presented with all BM's easy charm but again it's being let down a bit by slipshod research. There's no way that Jan and Dean's version of Norwegian Wood could have come from 1963. |
What's even worse than that (and surely that's bad enough) is the fact that Brian Matthew reads the script on mic without even questioning it either! He is the one broadcaster who spent more time with the Beatles than virtually any other, and he surely knows when Norwegian Wood was first released on record. Is he now incapable of picking this up and asking his producer "Who wrote this crap?".
SOTS is losing its shine, I'm afraid, due to declining production standards. |
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iwarburton
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Super show today, as always, but I was amused by the inopportune timing of the (excellent) 3 in a Row choice for the postman in Liverpool, who listens to the show whilst out on his rounds.
Not today, methinks.
What--SOTS pre-recorded??!!
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In exile over the weekend but still managed to catch most of it.
The official Hard To Get feature made me smile, since, unless your sole source of recorded music is the high street, Jackie Lomax's catalogue is, at the moment, quite easy to get hold of. I snapped that album up as soon as it was reissued - I'd only been waiting 35 years for it!
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iwarburton
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Heard today's show in bits till about 8:45 and pretty well straight through after that.
A good day for Geordies, with the Shadows and the Animals separated only by the 9am News.
Don't know if I've ever heard Elvis' theme from Fun in Acapulco before. It reminds me of a really well-known light classical piece but its source is elusive.
Excellent in itself to have the Hollies' King Midas in Reverse but it's a bit downbeat for the closing track of the show.
The Eden Kane one took me straight back to the snow of early 63. What a pity it didn't find chart favour.
I agree that Benny Hill's Harvest of Love didn't quite fit the country music category but I love it anyway, with its marvellously understated humour. The character must have been an ancestor of Owen in the Vicar of Dibley.
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Splendid show on 20 October but am a bit puzzled by implication that playlists are discarded after their 7 days on the BBC site. Surely they need to be kept for far longer than that, to ensure that items aren't repeated too soon, a fair spread of acts is included etc. Or did I misunderstand?
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I've sent another 'Three in a row' in! If it gets played it will be my third 'Three in a row' and I will retire!  |
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Lord Evan Elpuss
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| iwarburton wrote: | Splendid show on 20 October but am a bit puzzled by implication that playlists are discarded after their 7 days on the BBC site. Surely they need to be kept for far longer than that, to ensure that items aren't repeated too soon, a fair spread of acts is included etc. Or did I misunderstand?
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He was probably referring to the' music played' pages, but they're actually on for two weeks as you can view the most recent playlist (this week) & the week before's (last week)
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Only caught the second half this week; a higher proportion of well known stuff (to me, anyway!) I thought.
It does irk me when he talks over the beginning of a track (in this case The Liverpool Five). He doesn't do it very often but it sounds as if it's a deliberate ploy to discourage people taking recordings, (for their own use, of course).
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I wondered about this at the time. Is it possible that BM records the links separately from the tracks being played, which leaves them free to start tracks underneath the links and, for instance, catch up with time if they're overrunning?
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Could well be. As the shows are pre-recorded there is after all no earthly reason why he should spend two hours or more sitting there while the music's playing.
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| iwarburton wrote: | | I wondered about this at the time. Is it possible that BM records the links separately from the tracks being played, which leaves them free to start tracks underneath the links and, for instance, catch up with time if they're overrunning? |
To be honest I think that's exactly what they do. It's very easy for BM to lay down his links to hard disk and for the producer/editor to drag and drop the tracks from the server list into the timeline. Slipping the odd track back or forward over the intro or outro enables the timings to be tightened up where needed. It could also explain why BM doesn't sound quite so "involved" these days - the programmes sound much colder than in years gone by. |
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Just as I thought. But, as a former hospital radio presenter, I can't remotely imagine wanting to record in this way. And not having the presenter listening to what's being played increases the chances of error--this was an issue a few times in the closing years of Alan Keith's stewardship of HBT.
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| iwarburton wrote: | | Just as I thought. But, as a former hospital radio presenter, I can't remotely imagine wanting to record in this way. And not having the presenter listening to what's being played increases the chances of error--this was an issue a few times in the closing years of Alan Keith's stewardship of HBT.. |
Thing is that with the wonderful "new BBC" where everything is tapeless, digital and - to a large extent - automated, there's a lot of pressure on studio resource time. I would think that for an established old-timer like BM he probably would prefer just nipping into the studio and recording all his links into proTools or whatever and leaving the team to chop it together on the timeline. After all (as someone who's done both) it's a lot easier to drag-and-drop digital files into a timeline-based interface than it is to track-lay and then splice up a 1/4" master on a Studer or whatever.
That assumes that BM does indeed do it this way. For all we know he might still prefer to do the show as-live in real time with the studio team flying in the tracks from the other side of the glass!
There's no doubt he works from a prepared script, though, and adds little snippets of ad lib as he sees fit. Not a lot though by the sound of the delivery. Knowing BM, he won't need many retakes either. |
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| iwarburton wrote: | Just as I thought. But, as a former hospital radio presenter, I can't remotely imagine wanting to record in this way. And not having the presenter listening to what's being played increases the chances of error--this was an issue a few times in the closing years of Alan Keith's stewardship of HBT.
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As a current hospital radio presenter, using some of this technology, I can confirm that it can be a bit soul destroying. However, a colleague does a four-hour evening programme on a community station. He actually spends no more than about two hours a week there, recording his links. The production team then assemble the finished programmes. Prep time is rather longer (he actually thinks about what he's going to say), but if he had to be there for the full 20 hours he couldn't do the show.
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| Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 10:13 am Post subject: SOTS |
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Was the Liverpool Five song a cover of an American song?
I ask because the bassline is a dead ringer for the one that opens Devil's Haircut (Beck)!
Also, what's the song in the Liverpool Victoria Insurance ad that starts 'Dum diddy dum diddy dum dum...'? It sounds like a 60's song, but goes on somewaht like Hate To Say I Told You So (The Hives)
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The song, I Can Only Give You Everything, was written by Phil Coulter and Tommy Scott and most famously recorded by Them, also the Troggs and MC5.
Can't find the Liverpool Victoria details on any of the usual web sites - will have to wait for it to crop up on TV.
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Enjoyed all again today, especially the second hour.
Funny that Maureen Evans' Like I Do, loosely based on Ponchielli's Dance of the Hours, came out just before Allan Sherman's Hello Muddah, Hello Faddah, based on the same piece but much more closely related to it.
Ray Davies' Days is just superb, whether sung by the Kinks or Kirsty McColl.
Haven't heard Scouse-based Hands Off Stop Muckin' About since it was current in 1963. Am I right in thinking that Ken Cope was on the team for That Was the Week That Was?
Two records played just after that, by the Paper Dolls and Reparata and the Delrons, also remind me of Liverpool, as when they were out I was on a course at the doubtless long defunct Liverpool College of Commerce. My long-lost mate Mike loved the latter!
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| It's thumping away on my office system right this minute. I'm at the point right after the news in the middle. (Cinnamon Sister by the Pastel Six) |
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Oh dear me, listening to Bing Crosby's version of the Beatles' Hey Jude was painful! what was he thinking of?
He even managed to include some "Rom pom pom poms" too!! 
Good start to the show though with Bobby Vee's "Night has a Thousand Eyes"! 
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| I like Bing, but I agree it was awful. As is Fats Domino's version of 'Lady Madonna', in my opinion. The Karl Denver track played today was so laid back that it sounded like a re-make of a Dean Martin number! I wonder whether the PF Sloan track 'Sins of a family' was the original version? It sounded different to me. Wish I could play the LP I have of Mr. Sloan. Must get a turntable! |
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Generally good show. We were listening to Gene Pitney and wondering if there is any tribute act to him. Does anyone know?
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A quick google reveals one Tony Lee to be the man! 
""Tony has featured Genes music in his act since the late 70's due to the many requests from his own audiences but it wasn't till 2003 that he decide to dedicate a complete show to Gene Pitney. This was brought about with the help of Mike Fulwood management who was an acquaintance of Genes from the 70's and more recently the Dansatak agency.""
He's appearing at -
Nov 30th 2007: Coronation Club, Milgrave , Stoke on Trent
Dec 6th 2007: The Meadend, Denwaterlooville, nr Portsmouth
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| Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 3:44 pm Post subject: SOTS |
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I've always thought Karl Denver (on 'Wimoweh') could be an ancestor of Vic Reeves' Pub Singer from 'Shooting Stars'!
Re: Allen Sherman. The reference to him appearing on 'Dee Time' in the Simon Dee biography makes me think of him doing 'Strange Things In My Soup' on there - new words to the tune of 'Strangers In the Night'!
He also did 'I'm Dr. Prentice The Famous Dentist', to the tune of 'The Continental' - when Emmerdale had a scene with Perdy seeing a psychiatrist of that name I thought of this!
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On Saturday they played Joe Brown's Picture of You and described it as a no 2 hit. But the NME chart shows it as having snatched a week at no 1. Maybe when there's a difference in the various charts they should give records' placings the benefit of the doubt.
Great show, nevertheless, with some good ballads in 3 in a row.
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My Guinness Book of Hit Singles show it as reaching No2 as well.
I missed the last section but what I heard of this week's show was really enjoyable.
I must see if I can get 2 hour minidiscs! 
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Yes, I think it peaked at no 2 in New Record Mirror, which is the chart that they tend to use on SOTS. Oddly enough, in the NME chart it gave way to Ray Charles' I Can't Stop Loving You, which was also on Saturday's show.
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The charts used by the BBC, Guinness, and all the other books, were from the NME until 4th March 1960, and then from 10th March the trade paper Record Retailer (now Music Week). Joe Brown was prevented from reaching No 1 by Mike Sarne's Come Outside.
Similar thing happened a year later with the Beatles' Please Please Me, where one of the charts had it at No 1 but in RR it was held off by Frank Ifield's version of The Wayward Wind.
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Thanks for that. In the NME chart there was one week where both the Beatles and Frank Ifield were shown as jointly occupying no 1, with the Beatles there on their own the following week. But the use of the Record Retailer chart means that Please Please Me isn't on the Beatles 27 no 1s album.
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Thanks for remembering John Lennon and Otis Redding today.
LOL during the Stan Freburg one and look forward to hearing part two next week.
Paul and Paula's second hit was well worth a play but singles-wise they proved to be rather a one-trick pony.
Masterly selection and presentation but a pity about the rush--records cut off, usual heart-warming valediction edited out.
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LOL during the Stan Freburg one and look forward to hearing part two next week.
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That track could easily have applied to these manufactured acts & musical 'reality' shows that you get on TV these days.
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I was wondering if Stan Freberg's version of The Great Pretender qualified as a 60's record - it's always this I think of when Chris Tarrant's programme of that name's on!
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| I've requested another comedy record on SOTS called 'The Ballad of Irving' by Frank Gallop. Anyone remember it? A skit on the cowboy songs, as Irving is a Jewish cowboy who is 'The 142nd fastest gun in the West!' He comes from the Old Bar Mitzvah spread. A precursor of 'Blazing Saddles' I suppose! |
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Oh, yes! It was one of my favourites in Stewpot's Junior Choice era.
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This remains a splendid way to start Saturday.
Fascinating to hear the original version of Cast Your Fate to the Wind. The Sounds Orchestral account is one of my tingle tracks.
Surprised that Seasons in the Sun was about in 68.
Nice to hear former Sounds of the Fifties presenter Ronnie Hilton.
Tony Hancock's brief appearance was a delight but the theme from his ITV series wasn't just quite as good as Angela Morley's splendid theme from the BBC radio/TV series.
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