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gazmando · Joined: 15 Apr 2007 Posts: 560 Location: Huntingdon

Sarah was playing Amy Winehouses new single today, and I was thinking to myself "what an appalling record".
Just as it was ending Sarah said "Thank God thats over" or words to that effect, and then said "Sorry if you're an Amy Winehouse fan but that was awful."
Thank goodness a DJ finally had the bottle to speak out against some of the drivel being forced onto Radio 2.
All we need now is for Terry to burn the playlist live on air.

Ian Robinson · Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 9:26 pm Post subject:

I don't mind the Winehouse record. It's nowhere near as strong as previous singles but is much better than a lot of the stuff on the R2 Playlist.

Mark Mayhew · Joined: 11 Dec 2006 Posts: 2897

I think the Amy Winehouse new single is good-I like it.

Sarah Kennedy is out of order with her comments.

Perhaps when Kennedy eventually gets the boot/retires some of us will be thinking "thank God that's over".

Behind Geddon's Wall · Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 7:18 am Post subject:

gfloyd · Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 7:51 am Post subject:

Why play it and moan afterwards? Could she either not play it or keep her gob shut after the song finishes. Either way I'm fine.
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RockitRon · Joined: 07 Dec 2006 Posts: 7646

We've been down this road before. We don't mind when presenters say how much they like certain songs, why shouldn't they occasionally go the other way?

She's obviously, and not surprisingly, obliged to play two A Playlist tracks each day (the only one conspicuous by its absence in the last week is Feist's) and if she only dislikes one out of the ten available it's a wonder.

Actually, although she's not my favourite by any stretch, and the song isn't the most commercial, the old-fashioned soul feel to it and the rest of the album is not that bad - there are certainly worse around.
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MadeinSurrey · Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 10:20 am Post subject:

More power to SK! At last someone has the nerve to say when they think something is awful - if only all the others would do the same. There is so much crepe on the R2 playlist, and to make matters worse it's repeated ad nauseum. More variety please!
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gazmando · Joined: 15 Apr 2007 Posts: 560 Location: Huntingdon

Does anyone know who draws the playlist up?
In my opinion whoever does it doesn't know anything about music.
It's always whiny girl singers with vocal affectations e.g Gwen Stefani, Nelly Furtado, Fergie etc, or some sub coldplay new band who the playlisters think will become big and then they can say "we played them first" and that's about it really.
There must be new songs released from different genres or (sacrilege) older artists.
I know some of you think Amy Winehouses new record is good (I think it's tuneless drivel) but I think it's good that Sarah had the bottle to criticise it and I wish others would speak out against the playlist, as I can't believe they're happy playing the same songs day in day out

Lord Evan Elpuss · Joined: 10 Dec 2006 Posts: 3417 Location: Cloud Cuckoo Land

Scroll down to the bottom of this page and all is explained.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio2/r2music/playlist/latestrecordsofweek.shtml#playlist
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Ian Robinson · Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 8:31 pm Post subject:

The problem is the playlist is too narrow. If there's a song you like, you'll get sick of it and if there's a song you hate you'll grow to really despise it. Either way, you lose.

Already, I'm sick to death of the new stuff from James Blunt and KT Tunstall but know I'll be hearing them for months. But they're fashionable so Radio 2'll keep playing 'em no matter what. Just wait till there's a new album from Corrine Bailey Rae...

And yet, with the exception of Elton John, old acts whose one or two records are played over and over don't get a look-in. Gilbert O'Sullivan and America will turn up on Steve Wright or Ken Bruce to tell us about their new records but there's little chance of us actually hearing them.

gazmando · Joined: 15 Apr 2007 Posts: 560 Location: Huntingdon

Thanks for the link Lord E.E
Totally agree with everything you said Ian.
They always have guests like Gilbert on and say how wonderful their music is and how great their album is, but you never ever hear their music again which I find totally pathetic.
Didn't Gilbert O'sullivan sound a really nice and musically knowledgeable chap when he was on Tracks Of My Years?

Ian Robinson · Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 9:14 pm Post subject:

Yes, I though Gilbert was great on Tracks of my Years - and I liked his little dig at those who choose their own records. In fact, I think I've heard more GOS interviews on Radio 2 than I have music Confused

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Cherskiy · Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 6:05 am Post subject:

Well, if you want a diverse playlist, listen again to the Bob Harris Saturday Show.... my weekly review doesn't cover everything, just those items I think are new and/or interesting. He also features stuff from vinyl and tracks from the 60s in addition to the contemporary indie, folk, roots and country genres.

But then again, I'm biased! Laughing

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MadeinSurrey · Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 7:39 am Post subject:

Gilbert O'S wrote and sang some great music - Nothing Rhymed, for example is a masterpiece, and there are plenty of other really good tracks that should be aired on R2.
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Mark Mayhew · Joined: 11 Dec 2006 Posts: 2897

In your opinion maybe -in mine not-absolute pants in imho.

MadeinSurrey · Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 8:10 am Post subject:

Well of course you are entitled TYO, but how can you say Nothing Rhymed is "pants"? What DO you like?
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Lord Evan Elpuss · Joined: 10 Dec 2006 Posts: 3417 Location: Cloud Cuckoo Land

That's besides Richard Allinson?
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nod · Joined: 24 Dec 2006 Posts: 3558

She does this now and again, I have no problem with it, if she doesn't like the record she should be entitled to say so. Better than some cheesy DJ singing it's praises when in fact they don't even like it.

mcl · Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 12:00 pm Post subject:

gazmando · Joined: 15 Apr 2007 Posts: 560 Location: Huntingdon

I think Gilbert has recorded some great tracks aswell.
It's such a shame that none of them will be played because,
A|- He's not cool
B|- He's not young
C|- "We don't care if members of the public like him we only pick records to impress our media buddies."

Ian Robinson · Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 7:42 pm Post subject:

That Joss Stone song that's playing all the time has already been released once. Quite why Radio 2 feel the need to inflict a re-release on us with as much gusto as originally I'm not sure but they do it with quite a few artists (like James Blunt and KT Tunstall).

It's almost as if Radio 2 is just a paid-up marketing tool for record companies. Surely not? Wink

mark occomore · Joined: 07 Dec 2006 Posts: 9955 Location: UK

CE said the song has gone from B Listed to A Listed on the playlist.

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SantaFefan · Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 8:10 pm Post subject:

Lonegroover once spake unto us and said "For he is the future of Radio 2" Rolling Eyes

Lord Evan Elpuss · Joined: 10 Dec 2006 Posts: 3417 Location: Cloud Cuckoo Land

And the people did reply "Gawd 'elp Radio 2"!
well apart from a couple + Dame Lesley!!
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Behind Geddon's Wall · Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 7:26 am Post subject:

Whoever does Sarah's music this week has done a cracking job. Normally the whole thing just drifts as I get ready and go to work, but at least once each day there has been a tune to sit and listen to properly.
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MadeinSurrey · Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 7:34 am Post subject:

Mention og the great Lonegroover makes me all nostalgic! Whatever happened to he-who-must-be-obeyed? Rolling Eyes

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Mark Mayhew · Joined: 11 Dec 2006 Posts: 2897

MID-My musical taste varies from classical right through to punk with lots in the middle.

I happen to think music by Amy Whitehouse is great by the way.

MadeinSurrey · Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 11:23 am Post subject:

Someone MUST know where Lonegroover is - perhaps he's now working for the Diplomatic Corps? Smile

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RockitRon · Joined: 07 Dec 2006 Posts: 7646

Regularly seen, complete with Cornish flag, on jezzasexiles.
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SantaFefan · Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 6:43 pm Post subject:

Firewire Fred, Lonegroover was one of the pro Evans dreadnaughts on the old Radio 2 boards who, along with Ernie and about two others Laughing

, defended Mr Evans to the death against such mighty antiEvans posters as Herr Grubber and Captain Pugwash.

It's true that "Lonegroover" still posts on Jezza's but I really don't think it's the original. I also strongly believe that "Ella Saylour" on these boards was the same person.

I had a really amusing hour or so looking back at the old BBC boards this evening to remind myself of Lonegroovers comments Laughing

I laughed several times at the exchanges, particularly some of Ernie's and MadeinSurry's Laughing

I don't know if any of you can still access those boards?? if so, it's worth a look back.( I was the very last poster Crying or Very sad

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Firewire, here's some posts by Lonegroover, you'll see what we mean... Rolling Eyes

"Firstly, Chris is an exceptional broadcaster, whom R2's controller recognises as one of the most talented radio presenters of his generation."

"As I type, Chris and his Drivetime team are off for drinks with the Director General. I would imagine that will be to congratulate Chris for being the success story of the last RAJARs, to reward him for enhancing Radio Two's prestige, and to thank him on behalf of the listeners for making Drivetime such excellent listening."

"I think the key to the show's success is Chris' personality, and I agree that there's a sense of occasion in each show; his enthusiasm is infectious and a great mood lifter."

"The shows are superbly crafted - the whole thing has a wonderfully coherent, creative feel, and the various music themes lend a very stylish mood to the show, a refreshing change from the low key, formulaic approach of the old school broadcasters like Ken Bruce, Wogan and so on."

"Chris is open, down to Earth and unpretentious, with no trace of the veneer of insincere, professional polish or dull-witted cheesiness that afflicts the R2 has-beens like Allinson and Walker - and he always has something interesting to say."

"Moreover, your assertion that the brilliant, award-winning Chris Evans is "untalented" is laughable. He's a phenomenally talented broadcaster, and Drivetime has benefitted greatly from his creative genius, vitality and charisma."

"Apart from the disservice to the listeners, having Drivetime follow his show immediately afterward is just being unkind to Alice, the poor bugger. Chris is everything he isn't - talented, enthusiastic, spontaneous, lively, sparkling and entertaining, full of ideas, stylish and engaging."

John W · Joined: 07 Dec 2006 Posts: 3367 Location: Warwickshire, UK

SantaFe, many thanks for the reminisces of Lonegroover.

He seems to be a genuine person, well there is his website which can be viewed via his profile......

I think Ella was Her Grubber as the same messages (by each) were posted here and at R2MB for a while, although that doesn't prove anything Wink

SantaFefan · Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 7:06 pm Post subject:

John, the reason I thought Ella and the present Lonegroover were the same is that they both sign their posts either Ella or LG.
Ella once made a posting on here but with LG at the bottom, plus they both went on holiday for a week or so at the same time. Confused

I once responded to the "present" lonegroover over on Jezza's asking why he'd mocked Chris Evans there to which he replied he couldn't stand him! Shocked

so, is he an imposter or, was he winding us up all along? Laughing

John W · Joined: 07 Dec 2006 Posts: 3367 Location: Warwickshire, UK

I guess we'll never know. I enjoyed LG's postings at r2MB and the brief time he was on here, but didn't enjoy Ella's. Of course Ella could be back here again in another guise if his IP address changed, and if he was back then he'd be winding up Mark O as usual ......

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As a matter of interest, what/where is "Jezza's"?????

BTW, IP addresses are not constant. ISP's intentionally change them all the time for privacy and security reasons. You will see a whole heap of addresses against peoples log ins for that reason, and one of the reasons the BBC website forum admins do not like to put blocks on peoples IP's is that they could end up blocking innocent parties. It ius very easy to spoof an address anyhow. (not that I know how to you understand). Smile