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mark occomore



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 8:53 pm    Post subject: Newquay Hotel Fire Reply with quote

Fears are growing for the safety of four guests missing after a hotel fire in Cornwall which left one dead.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/cornwall/6953427.stm


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Hope they find them alive?
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 8:56 pm    Post subject: Re: Newquay Hotel Fire Reply with quote

mark occomore wrote:
Hope they find them alive?


Well, er, yes...............?
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 7:49 am    Post subject: Re: Newquay Hotel Fire Reply with quote

firewirefred wrote:
mark occomore wrote:
Hope they find them alive?


Well, er, yes...............?


Unlikely to be found alive 24 hours after a house fire.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 8:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wooden fire escape passed the fire health and safety test? Strange!! I thought those types of escapes where removed from buildings many years ago? I know it's was a slightly different situation, but all wooden escalators were removed from tube stations because they can catch fire quickly?

I'm sure the Health and safety executive will have many questions to answer.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/cornwall/6953427.stm
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 9:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You're right Mark, wooden escalators are a different situation. They represent a flammable material within a confined space and subjected to draft like a flue.

External wooden escape stairs are in theory quite safe if the regulations are adhered to in respect of distances from openings from which flames can issue.
It used to be 2 metres sideways and no openings below the flight or landing but that may have changed since I've been out of architecture.

One of the big safety concerns on a timber ( or steel ) external escape staircase is slipping on slimy, icy or wet treads, hence the desire to form internal escape stairs. In the event of a fire, I'd personally rather be outside....

I would think there are many timber constructed escape stairs still in use today. It used to be that Fire & Building Control departments didn't have the authority to ask the owners to modify unless there were "major works" being carried out on the building.

Looking at that picture however, I'm surprised at how badly the building is damaged!
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