R2OK! Forum Index R2OK!
Contact R2OK! admin

Click here for R2OK! Website


 
 FAQFAQ   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups   RegisterRegister 
 ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in 

You can tell it's September ..........

 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    R2OK! Forum Index -> Shows and Music on Radio 2
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
Arcader



Joined: 11 Dec 2006
Posts: 220

PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 10:11 am    Post subject: You can tell it's September .......... Reply with quote

......... because all the bland old stalwarts are being wheeled out and shoved onto the daily playlist - I'm referring to dirge by the likes of James Blunt, KT Tunstall and the like. I'm sure that Dido will pop up soon .......... or have I missed her?

Edit: And a few minutes after typing the above, who should come on? Yup, blasted Dido! Arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Cherskiy



Joined: 08 Dec 2006
Posts: 3701
Location: near Amble, Northumberland

PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 11:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds like a self-fulfilling prophesy to me.... Smile

I'm not so enamoured with KT Tunstall's new single - hasn't hit me in the same way her debut album did (especially "Black Horse & The Cherry Tree").
_________________
Author: “To the Ends of the Earth: A Snapshot of Aviation in North-Eastern Siberia, Summer 1992”
(Free to read via Kindle Unlimited)
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
SantaFefan



Joined: 07 Dec 2006
Posts: 11258
Location: top of the cliffs in Norfolk

PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 11:24 am    Post subject: Re: You can tell it's September .......... Reply with quote

Arcader wrote:
I'm sure that Dido will pop up soon .......... or have I missed her?


Yes, I heard her droaning on this morning along with all the other tripe you mentioned..... even the starlings dropped out of the trees in boredom.

The morning was saved however by Alice Cooper playing Turning Japanese by the Vapours and 19th Nervous Breakdown by the Stones. Smile

I feel my enthusiasm for Ken's show is slipping... Roll on Steve Big Mac & Chips Wright, at least he's entertaining...... Wink
_________________
Johnnie Walker read out my message on Pirate Radio! Very Happy 13/8/07
I have heard how radio should be.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message AIM Address
Ian Robinson
Site Admin


Joined: 11 Dec 2006
Posts: 3608
Location: Chorley, Lancashire

PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 11:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cherskiy wrote:
I'm not so enamoured with KT Tunstall's new single - hasn't hit me in the same way her debut album did (especially "Black Horse & The Cherry Tree").

But... it sounds exactly the same! After 3 years wait, I'd have thought she'd come up with something a little different, that doesn't sound like the filler on her last album. Still, never mind 'cos Radio 2 will fawn over her anyway...
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
Arcader



Joined: 11 Dec 2006
Posts: 220

PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 12:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tunstall is also album of the week .......... <groan>.

Just out of interest, who at Radio 2 ultimately chooses that this dross should be played as album/record/artist of the week/month/season? It's not Lesley Douglas is it??? Sure would explain a lot ............
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Behind Geddon's Wall



Joined: 11 Dec 2006
Posts: 1553
Location: Kingston Upon Hull/ The Cloud Factory

PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 12:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Arcader wrote:
Tunstall is also album of the week .......... <groan>.

Just out of interest, who at Radio 2 ultimately chooses that this dross should be played as album/record/artist of the week/month/season? It's not Lesley Douglas is it??? Sure would explain a lot ............


How else do you explain the current parless state of the station?
_________________
Geddon

You simply mustn't blame yourself -- the days were perfect
And so were exactly what I was born to spoil
For I am the Rider to the World's End
Bound across the cinder causeway
From the furnace to the quarry
Through the fields of oil
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Helen May



Joined: 10 Dec 2006
Posts: 19374
Location: Cheshire

PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 1:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Arcader wrote:
Tunstall is also album of the week .......... <groan>.

Just out of interest, who at Radio 2 ultimately chooses that this dross should be played as album/record/artist of the week/month/season? It's not Lesley Douglas is it??? Sure would explain a lot ............


There used to be an explanation if you hit the 'Playlist' link on the R2 home page. I've not looked in ages but I imagine it is still there. There is a new guy there since Colin Martin left earlier in the year.

H
_________________
88 - 91 FM this is Radio 2 from the BBC!

I said it live on air in the studio with Jeremy Vine on 10/3/2005
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Arcader



Joined: 11 Dec 2006
Posts: 220

PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 7:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh boy, even Radcliffe and Maconie have been roped in to promote Tunstall's new album on thie show this evening. Rolling Eyes

I thought they had more integrity than that, but perhaps they have no choice ............

Gimme strength.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
gfloyd



Joined: 07 Dec 2006
Posts: 4861
Location: Here, There, Everywhere.

PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 8:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

September, May, July, December. It makes no difference. The daytime play list is full of these product placements.
_________________
His name was ernie ........ and he drove the fastest milk cart in the west.....
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Arcader



Joined: 11 Dec 2006
Posts: 220

PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 8:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe it just seems the the real dross is wheeled out in September, no doubt for the upcoming Christmas market.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Lord Evan Elpuss



Joined: 10 Dec 2006
Posts: 3417
Location: Cloud Cuckoo Land

PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 8:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Helen May wrote:
Arcader wrote:
Tunstall is also album of the week .......... <groan>.

Just out of interest, who at Radio 2 ultimately chooses that this dross should be played as album/record/artist of the week/month/season? It's not Lesley Douglas is it??? Sure would explain a lot ............


There used to be an explanation if you hit the 'Playlist' link on the R2 home page. I've not looked in ages but I imagine it is still there. There is a new guy there since Colin Martin left earlier in the year.

H


Yer tiz! http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio2/r2music/playlist/
_________________
Lord Evan Elpuss, Your ideal job is a Lumberjack.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Ian Robinson
Site Admin


Joined: 11 Dec 2006
Posts: 3608
Location: Chorley, Lancashire

PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 10:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Arcader wrote:
Oh boy, even Radcliffe and Maconie have been roped in to promote Tunstall's new album on thie show this evening. Rolling Eyes

I thought they had more integrity than that, but perhaps they have no choice ............

Gimme strength.

Thing is, I bet they want to do it. KT Tunstall is one of those artists who has a "buzz" about her (maybe artificial) and Maconie & Radcliffe will want in on that. She's appeared on their solo shows plenty of times.

Plus, any DJ would love to have a genuinely top-selling singer to do a live set on their show.

At least it's not Radio 1 - their poor listeners were subjected to Hard-Fi live tonight!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
gazmando



Joined: 15 Apr 2007
Posts: 560
Location: Huntingdon

PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 8:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What I don't understand, is why the playlist has to be divided into A, B, and C.
This way you get some records which are played to death and some which you never hear.
If you must have a playlist make it much more varied and have a limit on how many times a day a song can be played (say twice a day or maybe three times a day(maximum).
Also why are the playlisters so scared of picking anything which might make them "uncool"?
I can't see what's wrong with a Barry Manilow track next to an Arctic Monkeys track or a Cliff Richard track next to a Manic Street Preachers track.
I know not everyone likes Barry and Cliff but surely Radio 2 should cater for lots of people rather than play the same old faces over and over again, (surely we have enough commercial stations to cover that area.)
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Arcader



Joined: 11 Dec 2006
Posts: 220

PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 9:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One aspect that ticks me off about Radio 2 is that often they'll latch onto a 'musician' (I use the term advisedly when referring to the likes of Blunt, Tunstall, Dido, Mika, etc) and then plug them to death. It's like free non-subliminal advertising ..........
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Lord Evan Elpuss



Joined: 10 Dec 2006
Posts: 3417
Location: Cloud Cuckoo Land

PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 10:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gazmando wrote:

I can't see what's wrong with a Barry Manilow track next to an Arctic Monkeys track or a Cliff Richard track next to a Manic Street Preachers track.
I know not everyone likes Barry and Cliff but surely Radio 2 should cater for lots of people rather than play the same old faces over and over again, (surely we have enough commercial stations to cover that area.)

I would certainly appreciate such diversity, provided 'Steve Wright moments' (tracks being played without being identified) are outlawed.
Mark Germino touches on this very thing in his track 'Rex Bob Lowenstein' with his line about 'Playing Madonna after George Jones (Country & Western singer)

_________________
Lord Evan Elpuss, Your ideal job is a Lumberjack.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Ian Robinson
Site Admin


Joined: 11 Dec 2006
Posts: 3608
Location: Chorley, Lancashire

PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 11:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I listened to Radio 1 yesterday and it was even worse! The appalling songs that only Steve Wright plays (eg Girls Aloud) and Hard Fi (which 86% of Chris Evans's listeners thought was rubbish) were on every half hour.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
RockitRon



Joined: 07 Dec 2006
Posts: 7646

PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 4:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gazmando wrote:
What I don't understand, is why the playlist has to be divided into A, B, and C.
This way you get some records which are played to death and some which you never hear.
If you must have a playlist make it much more varied and have a limit on how many times a day a song can be played (say twice a day or maybe three times a day(maximum).
Also why are the playlisters so scared of picking anything which might make them "uncool"?
I can't see what's wrong with a Barry Manilow track next to an Arctic Monkeys track or a Cliff Richard track next to a Manic Street Preachers track.
I know not everyone likes Barry and Cliff but surely Radio 2 should cater for lots of people rather than play the same old faces over and over again, (surely we have enough commercial stations to cover that area.)


I agree with you, gaz (actually I think we've gone over this before, but never mind).

Although it seems as though the A-playlist records get played to death a quick scan of the shows' Music Played lists reveals that no one track recently has got more than three plays between 6 in the morning and 7 in the evening, so things have improved a little from the days earlier this year when Terry and Ken's producers were obviously not talking to one another and played the same thing within 30 minutes of each other.

On the other hand, some weeks there are tracks on the C list that don't get played at all. Generally speaking, only Janice Long, Johnnie Walker and, if it includes Beth Nielsen Chapman, Terry Wogan, dip into these uncharted waters with any frequency.

I'm not sure about the desirability of such a crunching gear change as Cliff followed by the Arctic Monkeys (though Terry is quite likely to do it - he followed the Killers with Eva Cassidy) but I agree that the older and/or more mellow artists must still have a place on daytime Radio 2.
_________________
Ron
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
gazmando



Joined: 15 Apr 2007
Posts: 560
Location: Huntingdon

PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 3:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your'e right about the crunching gear change Ron, I just picked some artists off the top of my head.
Having said that I can remember Ed Stewart playing Deep Purple and even the Sex Pistols next to stuff like Ella Fitzgerald and Frank Sinatra(when he had the weekday afternoon show)
I really wish Radio 2 would take a step back and realise there are people over eighteen who listen to the radio during the daytime.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Cherskiy



Joined: 08 Dec 2006
Posts: 3701
Location: near Amble, Northumberland

PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 7:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you look at some of the tracks I've listed in the 'Random Jukebox' section on this forum, virtually none of them are ever played outside the likes of the Bob Harris show - despite them being in the main 'radio friendly' and definitely R2 material.

I can't figure out the station's policy - there's so much good music out there but only a fraction seems to be played in favour of playing current stuff to death - practically to the point where it turns listeners off the artist (i.e. Blunt).
_________________
Author: “To the Ends of the Earth: A Snapshot of Aviation in North-Eastern Siberia, Summer 1992”
(Free to read via Kindle Unlimited)
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
Arcader



Joined: 11 Dec 2006
Posts: 220

PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 8:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quite agree.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Ian Robinson
Site Admin


Joined: 11 Dec 2006
Posts: 3608
Location: Chorley, Lancashire

PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 12:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One positive thing about "Celebrity Popmaster" is that we hear records that we wouldn't normally get - even the new single from Status Quo that you would expect to be on the Playlist.

It was great to hear Stephen Duffy & The Lilac Time on Monday with a track that would fit in wonderfully on Radio 2 but we'll probably never hear it again.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
pickle



Joined: 10 Dec 2006
Posts: 252
Location: Wakefield, West Yorkshire

PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 2:29 pm    Post subject: You can tell it's September... Reply with quote

I was a bit annoyed by Radcliffe & Maconie creeping to KT Tunstall too!

And would you Adam & Eve it, the Phil Collins Hits CD is out again in the wake of the Cadbury's Dairy Milk ad.
_________________
We made a land where crap is king and the good don't last for long.

'The Good Don't Last', Spock's Beard
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
firewirefred
Guest





PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 4:38 pm    Post subject: Re: You can tell it's September... Reply with quote

pickle wrote:
And would you Adam & Eve it, the Phil Collins Hits CD is out again in the wake of the Cadbury's Dairy Milk ad.


Not so much "in the wake of" but more "to tie in with", I suspect. Lots of money will have changed hands, no doubt, in order to give the compilation the vital promotion that it needs.
Back to top
gazmando



Joined: 15 Apr 2007
Posts: 560
Location: Huntingdon

PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 7:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ian Robinson wrote:
One positive thing about "Celebrity Popmaster" is that we hear records that we wouldn't normally get - even the new single from Status Quo that you would expect to be on the Playlist.

It was great to hear Stephen Duffy & The Lilac Time on Monday with a track that would fit in wonderfully on Radio 2 but we'll probably never hear it again.

Well said Ian,
That is virtually word for word what I was going to say.
Why can't we hear the new Quo single, why can't the Lilac Times new stuff be heard.
There must be countless other good artists who don't get a look in.
I personally don't know anyone who buys Enrique or music of that ilk, but that's all you ever seem to hear.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Arcader



Joined: 11 Dec 2006
Posts: 220

PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 8:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It bugs me that Radio 2 'latch onto' a particular artist and play/promote them until we're sick of them. It's a bit like the newspapers latching onto a particular celeb and force-feeding their readers anything and everything they can fabricate on said celeb.

Why can't Radio 2 simply branch out a bit more during the day and play a really wide variety of music? Getting rid of shows like that Steve Wright nonsense would of course help immensely.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
John W



Joined: 07 Dec 2006
Posts: 3367
Location: Warwickshire, UK

PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 10:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Arcader,

Sorry that your posting says 'would have course.....' Surprised

It's because we put in a word replacement for the benefit of Mark Occo who insists on writing would of Laughing Razz Rolling Eyes Wink Confused
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
Arcader



Joined: 11 Dec 2006
Posts: 220

PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 11:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wondered why that happened!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
gazmando



Joined: 15 Apr 2007
Posts: 560
Location: Huntingdon

PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 11:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wish there was a way of (not have please!!!) knowing how many different records Radio 2 played during the daytime, 5 years ago and 10 years ago.
I'd wager it would be far far more than they do now.
Regarding Steve Wright, we've now got Jennifer Lopez and the Sugababes that I guarantee he'll be playing every day for weeks on end.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    R2OK! Forum Index -> Shows and Music on Radio 2 All times are GMT
Page 1 of 1

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum


Powered by phpBB © phpBB Group. Hosted by phpBB.BizHat.com