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PostPosted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 9:51 am    Post subject: Jonathan Ross... Reply with quote

I left Radio 2 on this morning after SOTS and had the misfortune to Jonathan Ross. He and his cackling sidekick were discussing putting dog excrement down the toilet. Is it like this every week? Another reason why Radio 2 is going 'down the pan' thanks to Lesley Douglas' vision of what the listeners want.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 10:02 am    Post subject: Re: Jonathan Ross... Reply with quote

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I left Radio 2 on this morning after SOTS and had the misfortune to Jonathan Ross. He and his cackling sidekick were discussing putting dog excrement down the toilet. Is it like this every week? Another reason why Radio 2 is going 'down the pan' thanks to Lesley Douglas' vision of what the listeners want.


Hello Briant - couldn't tell you if it's like that every week as I stopped listening on Saturday mornings a long time ago. Thanks for supplying another reason why I should continue with this policy! Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 10:51 am    Post subject: Re: Jonathan Ross... Reply with quote

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Another reason why Radio 2 is going 'down the pan' thanks to Lesley Douglas' vision of what the listeners want.
Jim Moir hired Ross not Lesley Douglas
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 12:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ernie, Lesley Douglas must have helped to get Ross keep his programme having been in charge for the past several years along with signing up Russell Brand, Chris Evans, Dermot O'Leary and Davina McCall? That's why I say her policies are making many people switch off from the station.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 2:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Ernie, Lesley Douglas must have helped to get Ross keep his programme having been in charge for the past several years along with signing up Russell Brand, Chris Evans, Dermot O'Leary and Davina McCall? That's why I say her policies are making many people switch off from the station.

Ernie is right, Jonathan Ross is a Jim Moir signing, as is another 'must-to-avoid' for me, Steve Wright, though I understand our Lesley was still in a high position at the time.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 5:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What bothers me is the fact that his sidekick Andy flies in from Malaga every week to be...... Ross's sidekick. So much for "Carbon Footprints"! Andy obviously doesn't give a toss..... Okay, so he flies the desk as well, but anybody can do that.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 5:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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What bothers me is the fact that his sidekick Andy flies in from Malaga every week to be...... Ross's sidekick. So much for "Carbon Footprints"! Andy obviously doesn't give a toss..... Okay, so he flies the desk as well, but anybody can do that.


Ross was on Live Earth wasnt he? Obviously things are different for the masters compared to the peasants......
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 5:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Apparently I read the BBC will honour his 18 Million contract, but after that he will live on what they can afford.

I think Wossy does touch the border line every week and people take him too serious.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Apparently I read the BBC will honour his 18 Million contract, but after that he will live on what they can afford.


Nonsense! He'll consider bids for higher sums from other broadcasters. The reason why the beeb settled on his current contract is that the competition from other bidders was high. Don't forget that his commitment to the beeb extends far beyond his weekly radio show.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 6:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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mark occomore wrote:
Apparently I read the BBC will honour his 18 Million contract, but after that he will live on what they can afford.


Nonsense! He'll consider bids for higher sums from other broadcasters. The reason why the beeb settled on his current contract is that the competition from other bidders was high. Don't forget that his commitment to the beeb extends far beyond his weekly radio show.



Oh really so you dont think Commercial Radio broadcasters in Radio or TV do other things but still earn far less than Ross is on?
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 6:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Oh really so you dont think Commercial Radio broadcasters in Radio or TV do other things but still earn far less than Ross is on?


So you have to ask yourself why they don't earn as much. Something to do with supply and demand? Market forces?

Be mindful of one thing: when Ross's star ceases to shine (as inevitably it will one day), he'll cost a broadcaster a lot less.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 6:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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mark occomore wrote:


Be mindful of one thing: when Ross's star ceases to shine (as inevitably it will one day), he'll cost a broadcaster a lot less.



Shame on his pocket. I'm sure he could still do the same job - with the same audience earning a million a year?
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 6:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mark occomore wrote:

firewirefred wrote:
Be mindful of one thing: when Ross's star ceases to shine (as inevitably it will one day), he'll cost a broadcaster a lot less.



Shame on his pocket. I'm sure he could still do the same job - with the same audience earning a million a year?


Mark, you're missing a simple point. If two or more organisations are bidding against each other for his services, is he wrong to take the money and run? No. Not in my book.

He could be on his uppers next year, so in the entertainment business you have to grab it while it's there.

Like I said before, something is only worth what somebody else is willing to pay for it. It's no different to you putting something up for auction on ebay, after all.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 6:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Mark, you're missing a simple point. If two or more organisations are bidding against each other for his services, is he wrong to take the money and run? No. Not in my book.


WAS there ever a serious bid for Ross though? I doubt it very much.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 6:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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WAS there ever a serious bid for Ross though? I doubt it very much.


I believe that there was competition from the newly-established ITV Plc and also from Channel 5 under its then new German owners.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 6:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

firewirefred wrote:
gfloyd wrote:
WAS there ever a serious bid for Ross though? I doubt it very much.


I believe that there was competition from the newly-established ITV Plc and also from Channel 5 under its then new German owners.


Yes but a lot of the stuff is shadow boxing by his agents & also competitors
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 6:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It could well be, but broadcasting is a close-knit community and everybody at the top knows what everybody else is thinking and doing. Serious offers would be known about on the grapevine, as would any bluffing. I don't think you can bluff that amount of dosh!
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 6:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It could well be, but broadcasting is a close-knit community and everybody at the top knows what everybody else is thinking and doing. Serious offers would be known about on the grapevine, as would any bluffing. I don't think you can bluff that amount of dosh!


Yes but ITV dont have the shows to put him on. Their top slots are already occupied.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 6:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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firewirefred wrote:
It could well be, but broadcasting is a close-knit community and everybody at the top knows what everybody else is thinking and doing. Serious offers would be known about on the grapevine, as would any bluffing. I don't think you can bluff that amount of dosh!


Yes but ITV dont have the shows to put him on. Their top slots are already occupied.


But the recently formed group has a new leader - someone who's not afraid of shakeouts and restructuring. And with ITV's flagging fortunes in the last few years it certainbly needs someone like him.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 6:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I say let him walk. It would be an example to the rest of them. Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 7:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gfloyd wrote:
firewirefred wrote:

Mark, you're missing a simple point. If two or more organisations are bidding against each other for his services, is he wrong to take the money and run? No. Not in my book.


WAS there ever a serious bid for Ross though? I doubt it very much.



Apparently reported Channel 4 were interested, but they were interested in a lot of names at the time.
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Apparently reported Channel 4 were interested, but they were interested in a lot of names at the time.


There aren't that many fish (who can undertake the breadth of assignements that Ross undertakes) in the pond - not here in the UK anyhow. That's why there's a lot of competition for a few big names. It's very much Big Fish, Small Pond here.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 7:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It does make me laugh because some are saying if he earned 1 Millions he wouldn't get the listeners or viewers. He sounds to me they are trying to buy the public as well?
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 7:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It does make me laugh because some are saying if he earned 1 Millions he wouldn't get the listeners or viewers.


I don't understand that line at all!

mark occomore wrote:
He sounds to me they are trying to buy the public as well?


I don't understand that either!
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 7:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mark occomore wrote:
He sounds to me they are trying to buy the public as well?

Give us the money then, if they are trying to buy the public Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 7:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What JR can get away with on a late night chat show and what the Radio 2 audience want at 10am on as Saturday morning, in my opinion, are two different things. Perhaps a friend should tell him?
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 7:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Briant wrote:
What JR can get away with on a late night chat show and what the Radio 2 audience want at 10am on as Saturday morning, in my opinion, are two different things. Perhaps a friend should tell him?


That's the job of his Producer - and the Channel Controller! Evidently, there's been a bit of a communication breakdown!
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 10:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

firewirefred wrote:


That's the job of his Producer - and the Channel Controller! Evidently, there's been a bit of a communication breakdown!


Well it must have happened a long time ago!

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 5:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Check this link out from last weeks Sunday Times (Dec 9th 2007)

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/rod_liddle/article3022117.ece

After 'Real Romantics' there is a piece called 'Wossy, all you're worth is the chop'
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 3:22 pm    Post subject: Jonathan Ross Reply with quote

I gave up on his R2 show when he described Shawn Colvin's 'Sunny Came Home' as sounding like the Corrs.

I wish that the 'Rural Juror' movie as mentioned in 30 Rock had happened for real so I could hear Ross reviewing it!

He's the reason I fast-forward most of the Comedy Awards when it's on - I just want to see the nominations.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 7:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting comments in today's Independent, in a feature on Mark Radcliffe's new slot success. He seems to support Ross's high earnings, and puts forward quite a strong argument. Still disagree with him!

The Independent feature sings the praises of the 8-10pm show, quite a contrast to the guardian blog the other week on the supposed pointlessness of Rad-Mac's show. Funny for those 2 papers not to agree!?!...
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