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firewirefred
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I like listening to Parky. He's intelligent, experienced (as a broadcaster and journalist) and he has a perspective on life and the world with which I agree. Good on him, that's what I say. However, I think he's right to turn his back on Radio 2 - it's becoming a joke (for all the wrong reasons, Ms. Douglas).
Top marks to Mr. P! I'm sure his slot will be replaced by some more Douglas pap - and yet another reason to dump radio 2 listening. |
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SantaFefan
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| Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 11:48 am Post subject: |
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I used to enjoy Russell Davies show when it was on a Sunday afternoon. He played a good variety of music, maybe he could do Parky's slot?
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Scott_Nelson
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| Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 12:18 pm Post subject: |
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Russell Davies was "relegated" to Sunday nights back in January. He was extremely bitter about the move. He used term "relegated". I think the main reason why he was moved to Sunday nights is because of listener demand for a more modern Sunday afternoon lineup. Gradually, Sundays have started to sound fresher. It's only Michael Parkinson's 2-hours of depressing jazz ballads and croaky old crooners and Elaine Paige's show (that sounds like a kiddies circus) that make Sunday daytimes sound dated.
Lesley Douglas sympathsised with the listeners who found Sundays a turn-off, hence the changes. I was one of many who wanted Ed Stewart axed and it happened. I now think this was a bit harsh and instead Stewpot should have been moved to Sunday mornings in place of Steve Wright's pre-recorded "Love the show" rubbish. Sunday Love Songs has been done to death and is one of the worst shows on Radio 2. I hope Lesley Douglas has plans to axe it and replace with a general request show - and a better presenter. Having Steve Wright on 6-days-a-week is an insult to the average listener. |
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firewirefred
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| Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 12:41 pm Post subject: |
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| J_ROC72 wrote: | | Having Steve Wright on 6-days-a-week is an insult to the average listener. |
Trouble is that, like the abominable Chris Evans drivetime farce, it gets ratings - and if lots of people are listening......
| J_ROC72 wrote: | | It's only Michael Parkinson's 2-hours of depressing jazz ballads and croaky old crooners and Elaine Paige's show (that sounds like a kiddies circus) that make Sunday daytimes sound dated. |
I couldn't agree less. As a person whose musical tastes are obviously more broad (I'm quite happy to listen to Frank Sinatra one minute and then Funeral For A Friend the next) I like the variety that it brings. Life would be dull without variety - and there's a lot more music around than most of the tired, repetitive and over-commercial junk we get to hear on R2. |
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| Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 12:55 pm Post subject: |
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R2 has always been about presenting a diverse and eclectic mix of musical genre and presenters, however, the last 2 years has brought about a considerable watering down of this, IMHO. In a few years time the 60 plus will probably be the greatest percentage of available listeners, should they not be catered for? Parky, IMHO, presents a show that is interesting, entertaining and has a diverse selection of musical genre, lets hope who ever does take over this slot is of the same ilk.
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Scott_Nelson
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| Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 12:56 pm Post subject: |
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Michael Parkinson plays the same bland old crap every week. Frank Sinatra, Jamie Cullum, Clare Teal, Peggy Lee and those depressing jazz ballads. The music Parky plays is not suitable for daytimes; it should be played late at night for folk in a smoke-filled room crying into a Dry Martini. I hope whoever replaces Parky plays a better mix of music - and doesn't self-promote their favourite music.
As for Steve Wright/Chris Evans, I don't listen to either of them. Steve Wright is smug and patronising whereas Chris Evans comes across as if he's playing to a Tweenies audience. |
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Scott_Nelson
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| Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 1:04 pm Post subject: |
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By the way, Michael Parkinson's radio and TV shows were nothing but a place for him and his friends to get together and have a natter. I'd love to hear someone like Russell Brand being interviewed on Parky's Sunday show. It'll never happen because Parky is an old dinosaur. As much as I loathe Russell Brand's Radio 2 show, I do think it would be interesting Parky had somneone like him on as a guest.
How about Ricky Gervais, Danny Baker, Davina McCall, Gazza and Gwen Stefani all be guests on Parky's Sunday show? It'll never happen because they would probably make the show sound interesting. Anyway, none of them are toffee nosed snobs who all speak Middle England mother tongue. Parky's Sunday show is crap and I'm glad he's leaving. Listening to him muttering and mumbling like Arkwright and cackling with his dry guests is nothing but a yawn fest. I hope whoever replaces Parky livens up those currently bland Sunday mornings on Radio 2.
Up next is Elaine Paige who sounds like she's hosting a kiddies circus. This show should be moved to the evenings where it's out of the way. Also replace Paige with Michael Ball. At least he sounds natural on the radio as opposed to someone who still sounds amateurish after 3 years. Elaine Paige will never improve. In fact, I listened to the show when Paul O'Grady hosted it earlier this year. He would make an excellent host of it. |
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firewirefred
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| Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 1:15 pm Post subject: |
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| J_ROC72 wrote: | | By the way, Michael Parkinson's radio and TV shows were nothing but a place for him and his friends to get together and have a natter. |
Not so his radio show. I've heard some really interesting conversations with writers, actors, producers, musicians, etc., this yar alone. All good stuff - and stuff that I'm interested to hear. That's the main point. And it adds to the variety of what's on air. That's what I consider to be important. |
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Scott_Nelson
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| Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 1:19 pm Post subject: |
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| Most of his guests are his "tally-ho pally pallies". I've heard some of the conversations. It's like the show comes live from Parky's bedroom with all of his guests sitting around his bedside sipping black coffee and nibbling on croissants and crumpets! |
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firewirefred
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| Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 1:22 pm Post subject: |
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| J_ROC72 wrote: | | Most of his guests are his "tally-ho pally pallies". |
No they aren't. He's had discussions with people he obviously doesn't socialise with, but even if he does know a lot of people on the entertainment circuit so what? It demonstrates that he's an experienced professional who's had contact with lots of talented people. I think that's good - and that's why I like to listen. And, being a journalist by training, he does his research properly too. That's another thing I like.
| J_ROC72 wrote: | | I've heard some of the conversations. It's like the show comes live from Parky's bedroom with all of his guests sitting around his bedside sipping black coffee and nibbling on croissants and crumpets! |
That's your opinion. Fair enough. It isn't mine - or that of lots of others who listen. |
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Scott_Nelson
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| Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 1:27 pm Post subject: |
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| Parkinson, in my opinion, is overrated and past it. I'm glad he's calling it a day. His ITV1 chat show is enough to make me want to nod off. He had Joan Rivers on there last week, a loud, foul mouthed American bint. Just one of his "pals". Perhaps they should invite her onto his Radio 2 show where she can scream, shout and insult? She'd fit in very nicely alongside the likes of Jonathan Ross, Chris Evans and Russell Brand. |
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firewirefred
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| Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 1:28 pm Post subject: |
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| J_ROC72 wrote: | | Parkinson, in my opinion, is overrated and past it. |
File under "Each to his own" in that case. |
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Scott_Nelson
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| Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 1:30 pm Post subject: |
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| I have never claimed to speak for everyone else; my opinions are my own. I don't like Michael Parkinson and never have done. His departure is long overdue - in my opinion. |
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firewirefred
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| Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 1:30 pm Post subject: |
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| J_ROC72 wrote: | | I have never claimed to speak for everyone else; my opinions are my own. I don't like Michael Parkinson and never have done. His departure is long overdue - in my opinion. |
As I said, "Each to his own". Can't argue with that can we! |
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Scott_Nelson
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| Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 1:33 pm Post subject: |
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I loathe Michael Parkinson just as much some people loathe Chris Evans!  |
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firewirefred
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| Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 1:34 pm Post subject: |
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| J_ROC72 wrote: | | I loathe Michael Parkinson just as much some people loathe Chris Evans! |
That's OK. Each to his own! |
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| Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 1:49 pm Post subject: |
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I love Michael Parkinson's programme! I'm lucky enough to be from the generation that has heard music from the forties to the noughties!
Frank Sinatra sounds good to me at any time, but I've never liked Ella Fitzgerald or Tony Bennett. So as we are all in agreement now here:
To each his/her own. |
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SantaFefan
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| Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 3:20 pm Post subject: |
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| J_ROC72 wrote: | | How about Ricky Gervais, Danny Baker, Davina McCall, Gazza and Gwen Stefani all be guests on Parky's Sunday show? It'll never happen because they would probably make the show sound interesting. |
Interesting??? Gervais would bang on about not banging on about The Office, Baker would still try to convince us all he's no longer a Cockney barra boy, Davina would make people throw up and Gazza is a pointless item nowadays.
Although I like Gwen Stefani, I don't think I'd hear anything I haven't heard before... 
I love Parky's Sunday radio show and most of the music he plays, he's a classic just like Stewpot but you realised it too late! 
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firewirefred
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| Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 3:46 pm Post subject: |
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| I must say that I found that mix of names rather puzzling as well. Enough to make me reach of the "off" button for sure! |
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Scott_Nelson
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| Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 4:15 pm Post subject: |
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| That's because Parky only has boring guests on his show to match the programme's bland format. |
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firewirefred
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| Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 4:16 pm Post subject: |
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| J_ROC72 wrote: | | That's because Parky only has boring guests on his show to match the programme's bland format. |
All the interesting chats I've heard must have been different shows from the one you've listened to then. Anyhow, each to his/her own........ |
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Scott_Nelson
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| Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 4:18 pm Post subject: |
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Interesting chats about what they've all been up to since last time they met.
"Cocktail sausages and caviar, what what!" |
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firewirefred
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| Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 4:19 pm Post subject: |
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| J_ROC72 wrote: | Interesting chats about what they've all been up to since last time they met.
"Cocktail sausages and caviar, what what!" |
What - from a working class lad made good from Barnsley? I think not. And I think you're underestimating the breadth and range of guests he's featured over the years. Not all toffs by any stretch of the imagination. Anyhow, each to his/her own. |
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Scott_Nelson
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| Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 4:21 pm Post subject: |
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| He's gone from a working class man to a tuppeney apeney snob. Who the f*** does he think he is, slagging off all other chat show hosts proclaiming he is the best? He's about as interesting as watching paint dry. |
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firewirefred
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| Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 4:23 pm Post subject: |
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| J_ROC72 wrote: | | He's gone from a working class man to a tuppeney apeney snob. Who the f*** does he think he is, slagging off all other chat show hosts proclaiming he is the best? He's about as interesting as watching paint dry. |
Probably because he's right. And probably because all the other mainstream so-called chat-show hosts are pre-occupied with themselves rather than listening to what others have to say. Thankfully, Parky has held the chat show crown for the simple reason that he's number one. And good on him, too.
| J_ROC72 wrote: | | He's about as interesting as watching paint dry. |
In which case, watch something else. Each to his own... |
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Scott_Nelson
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| Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 4:26 pm Post subject: |
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| No, he's not right. Michael Parkinson showed total arrogance towards others out there who are in the same field as he is. He was right to criticise Davina McCall but not everybody. What Parky needs to remember is his ratings are well down compared to what they used to be. Blowing his own trumpet the way he does puts him in the same league as Chris Evans, Russell Brand and Skinner & Baddiel: a bigot. |
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firewirefred
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| Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 4:26 pm Post subject: |
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| J_ROC72 wrote: | | No, he's not right. |
Yes he is. 100%
Each to his own, eh? |
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Scott_Nelson
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| Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 4:27 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | In which case, watch something else. Each to his own... |
I don't watch (or listen) the old goat and don't intend to, either. |
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Scott_Nelson
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| Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 4:27 pm Post subject: |
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How is "100% right" (when he clearly isn't).
Explain. |
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firewirefred
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| Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 4:27 pm Post subject: |
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| J_ROC72 wrote: | | Quote: | | In which case, watch something else. Each to his own... |
I don't watch (or listen) the old goat and don't intend to, either. |
I'm very happy for you. Each to his own, eh? |
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Scott_Nelson
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| Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 4:28 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | I'm very happy for you. Each to his own, eh? |
And I'm pleased to hear it... |
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firewirefred
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| Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 4:29 pm Post subject: |
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| Excellent news. Wouldn't life be boring if we all liked the same thing, eh? |
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Scott_Nelson
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| Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 4:30 pm Post subject: |
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| You're avoiding the question. I asked you to explain how he is 100% right, when he clearly isn't. He really must fancy himself if he thinks he is the best in the world, everyone loves him and nobody does it better. The guy needs to wake up and smell the coffee. Like I said, his TV ratings are well down - probably because some people have started to find him a bore. No wonder he is retiring. |
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firewirefred
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| Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 4:34 pm Post subject: |
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| J_ROC72 wrote: | | You're avoiding the question. I asked you to explain how he is 100% right, when he clearly isn't. He really must fancy himself if he thinks he is the best in the world, everyone loves him and nobody does it better. The guy needs to wake up and smell the coffee. Like I said, his TV ratings are well down - probably because some people have started to find him a bore. No wonder he is retiring. |
He's retiring because he's highly critical (as are many others) of the state of British Broadcasting in general - especially those at the top who seemingly couldn't manage a proverbial drinking session in a place where beer is produced. If if I were him, I'd pack it in and leave the slots to increasing banality expected by today's audiences. I dread to think what will fill his slot after he leaves - but doubtless it will be more of the same crap we hear the reast of the week, and certainly not anywhere near as varied.
Variety is the spice of life. Each to his own, eh?
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Scott_Nelson
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| Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 4:34 pm Post subject: |
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Look at the way the old goat kicked off back in 2004 when the BBC wanted to move his show to another slot for Match of the Day fans. He walked out on the BBC and made himself look like a right tit. Who does he think he is? He doesn't call the shots. He's also thrown the toys out of his pram several times since then.
Michael Parkinson is just as bad as that ginger idiot Chris Evans: if he can't have his own way he throws a paddy. |
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firewirefred
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| Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 4:36 pm Post subject: |
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| J_ROC72 wrote: | | Look at the way the old goat kicked off back in 2004 when the BBC wanted to move his show to another slot for Match of the Day fans. He walked out on the BBC and made himself look like a right tit. Who does he think he is? He doesn't call the shots. He's also thrown the toys out of his pram several times since then. |
I admire him for that. He said he didn't want his show to be pushed back after MOTD (and what happened to that?) and how right he was. He was pulling ratings - big ratings - and ITV made him a better offer in a slot that suited him. And quite right too.
| J_ROC72 wrote: | | Michael Parkinson is just as bad as that ginger idiot Chris Evans: if he can't have his own way he throws a paddy. |
Rubbish!
Each to his own, eh? |
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Scott_Nelson
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| Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 4:37 pm Post subject: |
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| And you can report me to the Mods again Ernie for slagging off Chris Evans. You seem to think the sun shines out the guy's arse - not everyone else feels the same way about him. He's nothing but a former Radio 1/Virgin Radio reject who ought to count himself lucky he's where he is today. He's overpaid, overrated pillock. |
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Scott_Nelson
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| Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 4:39 pm Post subject: |
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You're clearly deluded then if you cannot recall the times Michael Parkinson has thrown toys out of his pram Chris Evans style. Methinks the pair of them ought to team up. |
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firewirefred
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| Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 4:39 pm Post subject: |
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| J_ROC72 wrote: | | And you can report me to the Mods again Ernie for slagging off Chris Evans. You seem to think the sun shines out the guy's arse - not everyone else feels the same way about him. He's nothing but a former Radio 1/Virgin Radio rejected who ought to count himself lucky he's where he is today. |
I don't think anything of the sort about Parky, but I do respect professionalism when I see it - and I consider Parky to be a consummate professional. That's my opinion. You don't think so. That's OK. I don't give a toss what you think!!!
I don't like Evans, either, but I do recognise his skills as a radio presenter - I just can't stand listening to him, so I don't. Easy.
Like I keep saying, each to his own. |
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Scott_Nelson
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| Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 4:40 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | I don't give a toss what you think!!! |
And neither do I with you. There. Now we're evens Stevens. |
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