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mark occomore



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 5:41 pm    Post subject: Christmas Turkeys Threatened Reply with quote

So announced the deadly H5NI which can be harmful to humans has been found in Suffolk.

Will anyone be avoiding the old Turkey on the plate at Christmas this year?

If anymore is found I might stick to Beef or Pork.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 5:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Who is this old Turkey you wish to avoid, please? Tell me who she is and I will avoid too.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 10:14 am    Post subject: Re: Christmas Turkeys Threatened Reply with quote

mark occomore wrote:
So announced the deadly H5NI which can be harmful to humans has been found in Suffolk.

Will anyone be avoiding the old Turkey on the plate at Christmas this year?


Since, statistically, I have more chance of being struck by lightning, winning the lottery, and developing CJD from a beefburger I may have eaten twenty years ago, than I have of catching bird flu from meat that has been roasted at 200C for five hours the answer's no.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 11:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This outbreak isn't far from me and what annoys me is that, as far as I know, Joe Public doesn't know the symptoms of Bird Flu?

My place here has lots of Pigeons. I know most folk think they're dirty flying rats, but heck they have to live somewhere and I can put up with them. In fact, I feed about 25 or so every day.
They are quite tame. ( and they're lovely birds too as it happens!)

Over the last few weeks, three have been found dead and I have one now which appears drunk; lost it's sense of balance completely.
I'm looking after it and hopefully it'll pull round.

Apparently, there were a dozen or so dead Seagulls washed up on our beach a few weeks ago too and notices have been posted asking people to report any strange bird deaths.
But shouldn't the local news inform us of the symptoms?

Yes, we'll be having Turkey for Christmas... Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 12:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Trouble appears to be there are no noticeable symptoms in birds, even in death, and they infect other birds by direct contact and by saliva left on the ground, on cages etc.

A bird's life is short and precarious and many of them die, for a variety of reasons, daily, and are left to rot, be eaten by other birds or animals, or be transported by rivers and sea. Seems we need a hygenic and speedier mechanism for reporting and disposal. More expense, I'm afraid.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 1:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

On what we know now, I shan't be avoiding turkey on health grounds but if there's a shortage the price might become an issue.

Ian.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 1:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can see that a worrying feature of this outbreak is that they have yet to find the source - there are no dead bodies (of wild birds) in the vicinity.

Interesting to hear that there have been cases all through the year not only in the Czech Republic (which is named as the most likely origin) but also Germany and France. Haven't seen the headlines and mass panic about it in their media.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 7:41 pm    Post subject: Re: Christmas Turkeys Threatened Reply with quote

mark occomore wrote:


Will anyone be avoiding the old Turkey on the plate at Christmas this year?

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I didn't think they lived long enough to be old Rolling Eyes , unless you have one from last year.
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