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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 11:21 am    Post subject: Strong Rumour- Johnnie Walker and Ed Stewart Reply with quote

Apparantly it looks as though Johnnie Walker is going to take over the slot vacated by Michael Parkinson and Ed Stewart is being brought back to take over Johnnie's Sunday afternoon show.

Changes are due to take place from February 08.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 11:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If that turns out to be true, then it will be a decision of Lesley's that I will be more than happy to applaud. To prove that I can give credit when it's due.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 11:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great news if it's true!

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 12:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good news if it's really true. Mark you got this info from the POV board.

Let wait and see. One thing is I can't see why the station would change the Sunday 10-1pm format?


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 1:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mark occomore wrote:
Good new is it's really true. Mark you got this info from the POV board.

Let wait and see. One thing is I can't see why the station would change the Sunday 10-1pm format?


I think we can guess who made the original posting over on the POV site. The intense dislike of Sarah Kennedy, Don MacLean, Elaine Paige, Desmond Carrington and Sunday Love Songs might be a clue. Wink
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 1:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JW could do the paper review?
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 1:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The bit of this I find hard to believe is Ed Stewart back into 5pm Sunday. That would mean reverting to a previous plan, which is something they very rarely do. Too much like admitting a mistake! Johnnie Walker could be a nice listen for a Sunday morning.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 2:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I think we can guess who made the original posting over on the POV site. The intense dislike of Sarah Kennedy, Don MacLean, Elaine Paige, Desmond Carrington and Sunday Love Songs might be a clue. Wink



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 4:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's all pie in the sky speculation. No doubt we will know when auntie wants us to as I feel sure she does not want all the negative listener & media outcry she got when she announced in advance that CE was taking over Drivetime. Another thing, I can't get the R2 schedule page, just the message that this page cannot be displayed, it's been like this for several days now, anyone else encountering the same problem?

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's doing the same for my just now BB. I'm sure I had it the other day but I think I may have used another route. Will have a look and report back. Smile

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Edit: I used the Radio 'home page' but the schedule on there gives the same response today. I checked R4 and it was the same. Maybe they are updating them or there is a problem and no staff to fix it over the weekend?
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 5:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The thread regarding this on the POV MB is moving away from the authors first opening comments. As usual it's from the normal suspects asking for the removal of certain presenters and shows from the station.

They will never change? Laughing Laughing One thing the station will always keep the shows balanced out to sound right? They are probarly down the boozer, and either will be back later to finish off or continue with their words tomorrow? Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 6:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Helen May wrote:
It's doing the same for my just now BB. I'm sure I had it the other day but I think I may have used another route. Will have a look and report back. Smile

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Edit: I used the Radio 'home page' but the schedule on there gives the same response today. I checked R4 and it was the same. Maybe they are updating them or there is a problem and no staff to fix it over the weekend?


Cheers Helen, I least I know it's not me or my hardware Wink

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 12:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just supposing it did happen, could anyone see Johnnie Walker discussing the papers with Gillian Reynolds?

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 1:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes I could Helen, the guys a pro, you only have to listen to his interviews on Sundays and remember his guests on Drivetime. Anyway, much as I would like to see Johnnie doing more radio on R2, I think he is happy with his Sunday afternoon slot which I find great.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 3:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I could as well, that's presuming Gillian Reynolds would want to continue.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 7:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Helen May wrote:
Just supposing it did happen, could anyone see Johnnie Walker discussing the papers with Gillian Reynolds?

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Not really and thats the problem with this. Walker doesnt have any interest in current affairs.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 8:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What's the problem ernie, have to post it twice to make it believable Question Wink

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 10:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you 'listen again' to Chris Tarrant's Xmas show on BBC London, noises were made about him returning to radio in 2008. Just a hunch but Sunday AM? R2? ... Indulge me...

7.00am Aled Jones

9.00 Chris Tarrant

12.00pm Danny Baker

2.00 Elaine Paige

3.30 Pick of the Pops

5.00 Johnnie Walker

7.00 Melodies For You

etc..etc..

Do us a favour Lesley and use Parky's departure as an excuse to finally ditch the tired 'Love Songs' show and revamp Sunday brunch by bringing in Tarrant and Baker.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 12:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="Lady Boil De Spudswell"]If you 'listen again' to Chris Tarrant's Xmas show on BBC London, noises were made about him returning to radio in 2008. quote]


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 12:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Noises? Laughing


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Interesting to note that the originator of this rumour appears to be at least in Pre mod on the POV board and in now known by number only.

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Made In England? ( Scott ) You can tell by the same old....... Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 9:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guessed that months, or even years ago Mark.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 10:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scott's ban HERE ended this week Confused

Meanwhile at Digital Spy yesterday he posted

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http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=716380&page=4

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Good to see you posting here again! Laughing Any sign of firewirefred? Laughing
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I thought so... Laughing

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd think a more logical/likely line-up would be for Ed Stewart to replace Sunday Love Songs with a more general request show, then for Tarrant to replace Parky. And Walker to stay where he is.
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I thought so... Laughing

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I'd think a more logical/likely line-up would be for Ed Stewart to replace Sunday Love Songs with a more general request show, then for Tarrant to replace Parky. And Walker to stay where he is.


Ed Stewart replacing the knackered Sunday Love Songs would be a blessing in disguise. Chris Tarrant would also be a great host of a Sunday Supplement although I highly doubt he will adopt Parky's old playlist.

If Parky's old slot is revamped we still have the same problems with the Sunday 1pm changeover from the normal pop format to 90 minutes of stage and screen, then back to the pop format. This is one of the reasons why Elaine Paige sticks out too much. The 1pm changeover is just as bad as the Walker/Titchmarsh one. It's too much. Very bad scheduling.

this kind of Sunday lineup:

7.00am Good Morning Sunday
9.00 Ed Stewart with Sunday Requests
12.00 Chris Tarrant
2.00pm Pick of the Pops
4.00 Johnnie Walker
6.00 Bob Dylan's Theme Time Radio Hour
7.00 Alan Titchmarsh
8.30 Sunday Half Hour
9.00 Elaine Paige
10.00 Malcolm Laycock
11.00 Russell Davies
12.00 Janice Long
3.00am Alex Lester

Ed Stewart could feature Junior Choice, say 10.00 - 11.00am.

Bob Dylan's Theme Time would sit in just fine on Sunday teatimes at 6pm. Keep all of the lighter programming together so it's in some kind of sequence rather than being darted all over the schedule. The current Sunday schedule is like the weekday evening one: very untidy and unbalanced.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 6:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How many shows has Bob Dylan recorded or recording?
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 6:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I didn't realise this was the Fantasy Schedule section Wink

I like the Elaine Paige/POTP sequence. For me, it's one of the most enjoyable blocks of the whole week on Radio 2 and I'd miss Elaine if she were moved.

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How many shows has Bob Dylan recorded or recording?

Er, it's a weekly show! He makes them for an American subscription satellite station and is given so much free reign that they can be any length he likes and the BBC have to re-edit to fit a 60-minute slot.

If it were to come to R2 on a regular basis, a late-night slot would be more ideal. But I don't see that happening anytime soon - I think they can get away with 'bought-in' shows on the digital stations but not the big ones.
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problems with the Sunday 1pm changeover from the normal pop format to 90 minutes of stage and screen, then back to the pop format. This is one of the reasons why Elaine Paige sticks out too much. The 1pm changeover is just as bad as the Walker/Titchmarsh one. It's too much. Very bad scheduling.


On the contrary Scott, it's good scheduling. If you remember, you were all in favour of giving parts of Sunday to every type of listener, not just the nostalgia types. Remember? And that is what Lesley wanted to do too. Remember?

So if we give slots for everyone, then, because there's only a fixed number of hours in a day we don't have the luxury of gradual changes in genre from show to show. What it gives the listener is a certain time each Sunday when their kind of show is on.

This is why Elaine's show is so successful. The fans of musicals know when it's on and tune in. Titchy and Russel D may also be now benefitting from their evening slot times, the time suits the fans of their music, as Laycock always has, and Alan Dell before him.

What's missing is the light classical slot but since POTP is in the Sunday schedule we should be asking Lesley to give a late Saturday slot for classical music because the fans are at home, instead of Brand who likely has a very low listener base even now and his real fans probably use listen again or his podcast.

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John,

Ed Stewart could feature a Sunday morning request show featuring music from the 1950s through to today. It would be a very diverse mix and the show would appeal to a large demographic. The show could also feature Junior Choice Hour.

This kind of programme would be much better than Steve Wright's Sunday Love Songs, which is nothing but tripe. The same rubbish is played week after week and Wrighty himself does nothing much read out fake "Love the show!" nonsense, thus massaging is already overinflated ego. This type of programme is not quality PSB. It belongs on tin pot local radio.

As for the rest of Sundays, Pick of the Pops is very nostalgic. The only downside is the the repetitiveness of the 60s and 70s being given priority over the 80s and 90s.

Radio 2 can still keep its lighter programming on Sundays. Just broadcast it in the evenings where it would be together. Sunday daytimes seem to jump from one extreme to another. As for Elaine Paige and musicals, her radio presentation is appalling. Michael Ball was on Radio 2 earlier in the week and is very professional and pleasant to listen to. He has a good rapport with the listeners whereas Elaine Paige is in the same league as Chris Evans, Jonathan Ross, Steve Wright and Russell Brand: over egotistic. I don't even know why musicals has a 90 minute slot when an hour would be just suffice.

Your point on light music being broadcast on Saturday nights - with the current state of the Saturday night schedule my guess is light music would be a blessing in disguise. Anything would be better than Russell Brand and his schoolboy toilet humour.

Anyway, back to Ed Stewart. I know you were never keen on him before but I think a lot of listeners, especially the older ones, would welcome him back. He is a familiar voice to millions of listeners and has been very much missed these last 2 years as proven by the overwhelming responses both Junior Choice Specials received.

Lesley Douglas seriously underestimated Stewpot's popularity when she axed him in April 2006.
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John,

Ed Stewart could feature a Sunday morning request show featuring music from the 1950s through to today. It would be a very diverse mix and the show would appeal to a large demographic. The show could also feature Junior Choice Hour.


Maybe, though I'm no longer keen to hear Rolf Harris, Benny Hill, Clive Dunn and the Seekers Rolling Eyes it would have its fans.

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As for the rest of Sundays, Pick of the Pops is very nostalgic. The only downside is the the repetitiveness of the 60s and 70s being given priority over the 80s and 90s.


That's because every other station is playing 80s and 90s. R2 likes to be different.

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I don't even know why musicals has a 90 minute slot when an hour would be just suffice.


Scott just think of all the X Factor finalists and you'll get an idea what audience musicals must have. A lot of numbers are 3+ minutes and Elaine needs to cover more than just one musical and does intros so need more than an hour.


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John,

I can appreciate what you're saying about Ed Stewart, but remember, Radio 2 has to cater for a broad church. Both Junior Choice Specials were overwhelming (even Stewpot himself was stunned with the amount of correspondence he received for both shows). The thing is John, many of the older listeners enjoyed the Junior Choice Specials because these shows brought back happy memories. A lot of older listeners complain that they are disenfranchised by Radio 2 these days.

Some older listeners have not forgiven Lesley Douglas for the removal of Desmond Carrington and Russell Davies from Sunday afternoons and the axing of Ed Stewart. Some are still angry that Sheridan Morley and Richard Baker were axed last year and regard Alan Titchmarsh as a poor replacement. Even you have said you gave up on Melodies for You a long time ago.

Lesley Douglas was right to make these changes. The Sunday audience figures have increased since the changes were made probably because the younger end of the market are now tuning into the likes of Elaine Paige, Pick of the Pops and Johnnie Walker.

I see your point why musicals has a 90 minute slot although I do recall a very long time you, and a lot of other message boarders, saying that Elaine Paige would be better off on Tuesday nights for an hour. I have listened to Elaine many times in the past and she winds me up. I would much rather hear somebody like Michael Ball host musicals instead. I'm surprised he wasn't chosen to begin with considering he's been a Radio 2 regular since 1991.

This time last year Paul O'Grady sat in for Elaine and he was a huge improvement. I love Paul's charisma and his humour. Both shows he presented were broadcast live, he took calls and e-mails from listeners and built up a great rapport with them. Paul himself was stunned with the amount of correspondence he received from the listeners. He did not fanny around like Elaine does, he did not massage his ego like Elaine does, and he kept me entertained throughout the time he was on the air, unlike Elaine does. Paul also has an awful lot of knowledge and passion for musicals and knew what he was talking about. Nine times out of ten, Paige just bigs her chums up and self-promotes herself. This is not good quality radio.

I wouldn't have an issue with musicals bring broadcast for 90 minutes on Sunday evenings, say 6.30 - 8.00pm. Michael Ball hosting the show would be an advantage, too. And you're right about X Factor and up-and-coming artists being featured on the show. I know people younger than me (even people in their late teens) who listen to musicals on Radio 2 but they share the same issue with me: Elaine Paige. Her radio presentation is dire.

Sorry John, but I just cannot take the show seriously all thanks to Elaine Paige. Her prattle and nonsense in between the tracks played winds me up.
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As for the rest of Sundays, Pick of the Pops is very nostalgic. The only downside is the the repetitiveness of the 60s and 70s being given priority over the 80s and 90s.






Scott,

Pick Of the pops has featured 80s and 90s in one of it's years over the past few months. Have you been listening?
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Mark,

If 80s/90s were only featured in ONE of the recent POTP then, as Scott says, the 60s/70s are clearly the priority Rolling Eyes

Eh?


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