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BDG · Joined: 08 Dec 2006 Posts: 202

I noticed the mail said this Aitch :

Insiders told the Daily Mail that rank-and-file staff had been feeling mutinous at the prospect of a junior employee being used as a scapegoat.

I totally agree with this, at first I thought the Producer/Editor should take responsibility, but then I realised it was the equivalent of expecting Becqui to do that and that it wasn't a live show. That really bought it home to me, you and I both know the big difference between the rank and file and the big presenters/editors and obviously Lesley Douglas.

As a mum and finding out Nic Phelps went to QM (not that it influenced my decision as such) it just doesn't seem fair, but it bought it home to me. I'm really surprised how people seem happy to use some junior employee as a scapegoat in order to protect the likes of Ross & Brand and even LD.

I respect LD for what she has done and I think in light of what Gambo has said, she did allow Brand to be a lose cannon. Do people really believe that some young lad could tell Brand or Ross what to do?! They really must be deluded if they think that.

BDG · Joined: 08 Dec 2006 Posts: 202

It was just confirmed on the R2 7pm News Aitch in case you didn't hear it that she was aware of it and it was her decision. For once I didn't hear wrong makes a change Embarassed

Helen May · Joined: 10 Dec 2006 Posts: 19382 Location: Cheshire

Yes B, I've just got to the end of the interview and he then said she was aware of the key contents of the programme. Strange he said differently earlier. I didn't think he came over particularly well.

As you know R2 is verboten in our house between 5 and 7 ( Wink

) so I didn't hear the news.

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BDG · Joined: 08 Dec 2006 Posts: 202

I didn't hear the first part of the interview I was on my way back from IKEA and picked up the last 10 minutes or so Very Happy

At least we are clear, she did know and made the decision to air the programme.

Wonder why they took so long to let my latest post on the BBC but it went through, so suspected it probably was right.

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BDG · Joined: 08 Dec 2006 Posts: 202

I guess that is the issue isn't it Aitch how can you get someone able to deal with them? Let alone a lad fresh from Uni?

I think that is the one good thing that has come out of this that the BBC have recognised that "personalities" should not rule the day and put ordinary employees in compromising situations. Nic clearly followed procedures filled in the forms and eventually it ended up on LD's desk. Given the latest news at 10pm where they have now said she clearly knew the contents of the show and it was her decision to air it. Justice has been done, the people involved paided the price and no one was thankfully a scapegoat.

For me the issue remains that these people are overpaid out of taxpayers money in the first place and it is totally unacceptable. We have become a culture of overpaying the wrong people for the wrong tasks in life and that is very sad.

I think it has been a week for democracy, not world shattering and far more important things are clearly going on in the world but it demonstrates that tax payers can change what happens in their world. For me that only has to be a good thing and we should see that as a positive step forward.

Complain, email your MP or your councillor or the BBC the more people that do that the better.

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mark occomore · Joined: 07 Dec 2006 Posts: 9955 Location: UK

Helen May · Joined: 10 Dec 2006 Posts: 19382 Location: Cheshire

Time alone will tell Mark.

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gfloyd · Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 1:49 pm Post subject:

It seems more likely that he will serve out his contract, but in 18 months time his contract wont be renewed.
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mark occomore · Joined: 07 Dec 2006 Posts: 9955 Location: UK

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I still don't get why Mark Thompson accepted Lesley Douglas's resignation if he has "left the door open for her return". Quite a few Radio 2 presenters, and personnel, are quite upset with Lesley's departure. She did a wonderful job Controlling Radio 2.

I wonder if she will be persuaded to return to her former post?

mark occomore · Joined: 07 Dec 2006 Posts: 9955 Location: UK

6 Music had problems last year with the phone scandal and that was under Lesley Douglas watch. She also sanctioned the Brand and Ross pre-record. Twice in a year, so it was best she left to clear the press hounding her why she's still at the station?

I can't see her returning to Radio 2, but why leave the BBC altogether?

Mark Lucas · Guest

Lesley Douglas could not vet every single programme by herself on Radio 2 and 6 Music.

Briant · Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 7:04 pm Post subject: Very interesting, Gambo...

http://blogs.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/ianwylie/2008/10/

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Shame Paul Gambaccini didn't reveal more, rather than leaving us out in the dark.

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Ian Robinson · Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 3:42 pm Post subject:

Maybe she liked to listen to the shows on broadcast? Perhaps she preferred the podcast as it wasn't spoiled by music.

Helen May · Joined: 10 Dec 2006 Posts: 19382 Location: Cheshire

Well the Director General admitted that she had not listened to that one on the JV Show on Friday.

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mark occomore · Joined: 07 Dec 2006 Posts: 9955 Location: UK

Anyone mentioned Andy Davis? He's going to be out of pocket, but saving money flying over from Spain? If he never came back Ross will have to practice how to control the desk?

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BDG · Joined: 08 Dec 2006 Posts: 202

I mentioned this on the other thread it sure is confusing at the moment Very Happy

I like Andy and I think the BBC said they would honour their obligations to other staff who should not be out of pocket over it.

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Mark Mayhew · Joined: 11 Dec 2006 Posts: 2897

Looks as though Ross is definetly returning to Radio 2 in his old slot-more's the pity.

SantaFefan · Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 7:13 pm Post subject:

I really can't see how he can be his cocky old self after what's happened... he must have thick skin.
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Briant · Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 10:56 pm Post subject:

I didn't like Andy's cackling at JR so I stopped listening to the show on Saturday mornings. On the TV side of things at least we are spared '4 Poofs and a piano' for a few months! Laughing

JR can do a reasonable show his Film 2008 programme so he needs to 'wise up' and cut out the lewdness with female guests and most of all to grow up, as he is pushing fifty! Or alternatively go onto the Comedy Club circuit and see how many buy tickets to see him.

John W · Joined: 07 Dec 2006 Posts: 3367 Location: Warwickshire, UK

Hilarious!

Ross and Brand nominated for awards

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RockitRon · Joined: 07 Dec 2006 Posts: 7646

That's about all there is that's funny; none of the nominees listed there are Rolling Eyes

(British Comedy Awards site has yet to be updated with full list)
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mark occomore · Joined: 07 Dec 2006 Posts: 9955 Location: UK