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iain_smith Guest
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Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 5:43 pm Post subject: changes to the weekday line-up |
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now that the new radio 2 boss has stamped his mark on radio 2 with the weekend schedule changes I wonder how long it wi be before he decides to revamp the weekday line up.If so what sort of changes do you think he should make? A new slot for Mark Radcliffe in the afternoon maybe?Or Simon Mayo taking over from Ken Briuce?Terry Wogan has recently stoked up speculation thath e could retire as early as this year so that would open the door for the biggest revamp of the weekday line up in many years. |
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colby
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Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 6:04 pm Post subject: |
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It does appear that the new controller is using a modicum of common sense, which comes as a refeshing change bearing in mind the actions of the previous incumbent.
It looks he's had a chat with Johnnie Walker and asked "What sort of show would you like to do now, Johnnie?". At least I hope he has.
It's going to be interesting to see how Breakfast shapes up as TW steps closer to retirement; somehow I just don't see the interminable Evans being in the running now. I sincerely hope not, anyhow. |
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The Stig Guest
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Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 6:19 pm Post subject: |
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It is tipped that Chris Evans will replace Sarah Kennedy / Terry Wogan, Simon Mayo will replace Ken Bruce and Dermot O'Leary will take over Drivetime.
I think changes to weekdays are definitely on the cards. |
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colby
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Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 6:24 pm Post subject: |
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If that prat Evans does step over to Breakfast I'll refuse to listen to R2 again. |
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mark occomore
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Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 6:41 pm Post subject: |
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SLS was saved from the axe as Wrighty commented on his Friday Show. My show is still around. Did Pick Of The Pops always run on a Saturdays when Fluff was presenting it? Seems Emma Forbes will be driving the desk for Alan Carr. Nice to have a SOT70'S show with JW presenting it. Paul will be fantastic at tea time on a Sunday. Yet again Richard Allinson hasn't been given a show? |
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The Stig Guest
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Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 6:44 pm Post subject: |
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Mark,
Pick of the Pops was broadcast on Saturday Radio 2 between 1997 - 2004. The show was 'rested' in September 2004, but returned to Radio 2 a year later when it moved to Sundays.
Who gives a damn about Richard Allinson? Why do some people talk as if the sun shines out of his backside? |
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Lord Evan Elpuss
Joined: 10 Dec 2006 Posts: 3417 Location: Cloud Cuckoo Land
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The Stig Guest
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Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 6:50 pm Post subject: |
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Isn't there a Lesley Douglas version to that game available? I'm sure I have seen it somewhere! |
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Lord Evan Elpuss
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Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 6:56 pm Post subject: |
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The Stig wrote: | Who gives a damn about Richard Allinson? Why do some people talk as if the sun shines out of his backside? |
His old Saturday show (when it was three hours long - i.e. in the pre-Douglas era) was one of the shows that made Saturday afternoon radio 2 unmissable. After Douglas had done her worst, Saturdays gradually became unlistenable, all in my opinion of course. _________________ Lord Evan Elpuss, Your ideal job is a Lumberjack. |
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Lord Evan Elpuss
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Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 7:00 pm Post subject: |
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The Stig wrote: | Isn't there a Lesley Douglas version to that game available? I'm sure I have seen it somewhere! |
Yer tiz!
http://www.pictogame.com/play/game/UGgdpwBcy4VD_kick-girl _________________ Lord Evan Elpuss, Your ideal job is a Lumberjack. |
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The Stig Guest
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Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 7:28 pm Post subject: |
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Shame I can't kick her to the Moon! |
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Toggy
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Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 10:21 pm Post subject: |
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The Stig wrote: | It is tipped that Chris Evans will replace Sarah Kennedy / Terry Wogan, Simon Mayo will replace Ken Bruce and Dermot O'Leary will take over Drivetime.
I think changes to weekdays are definitely on the cards. |
Heard it all before, why not wait and see rather than speculating? |
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colby
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Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 12:39 am Post subject: |
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The Stig wrote: | Who gives a damn about Richard Allinson? Why do some people talk as if the sun shines out of his backside? |
Perhaps because there are some folk who consider that he's (a) a good broadcaster and (b) has a musical knowledge which befits his role as a presenter of music-based radio shows? If there's a (c) perhaps it could be that he's a better radio broadcaster than some of the other goons who seem to get a regular gig at high cost to the network (and licence-fee payers)?
I'd rather listen to Allinson than some of the ego-inflated overpaid and self-serving idiots that have been given regular shows. |
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igs007
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Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 10:53 am Post subject: |
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I've only just found out that the Comedy hour is moving to Thursday nights, followed by Suzi Q. So, bye bye Mark Lamarr's excellent reggae, 50s and 60s series. At least he's still got his Friday night show, but it's still a shame to lose these specialist shows. Surely they could have fitted them in somewhere (or even moved them over to 6 music)? |
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davem
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Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 12:32 pm Post subject: |
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I know mark Lamarr can be a bit of an acquired taste but i find him an excellent broadcaster i like his shows even when i dont always like the music played |
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colby
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Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 3:31 pm Post subject: |
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davem wrote: | I know mark Lamarr can be a bit of an acquired taste but i find him an excellent broadcaster i like his shows even when i dont always like the music played |
I like him, too. I love his unrequited passion for the music he selects and plays. _________________ (signature and avatar removed, violated forum Rule 2.) |
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Ian Robinson Site Admin
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Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 8:21 pm Post subject: |
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igs007 wrote: | I've only just found out that the Comedy hour is moving to Thursday nights, followed by Suzi Q. So, bye bye Mark Lamarr's excellent reggae, 50s and 60s series. At least he's still got his Friday night show, but it's still a shame to lose these specialist shows. Surely they could have fitted them in somewhere (or even moved them over to 6 music)? |
This was a very late change - the Comedy Hour was supposed to be 11pm, but they've altered it so it doesn't clash with Radio 4. Don't know if they were going to keep Lamarr though. |
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Blighty Guest
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Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 1:34 pm Post subject: |
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colby wrote: | If that prat Evans does step over to Breakfast I'll refuse to listen to R2 again. |
And Chris Evans is the 'favourite' to succeed Terry Wogan... |
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Fred
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Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 5:52 pm Post subject: |
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mark occomore wrote: | Seems Emma Forbes will be driving the desk for Alan Carr. |
I thought that originally, but after looking at the studio webcam during his show on Saturday night, I learnt that Alan was doing it himself! _________________ Fred Hart
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Blighty Guest
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Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 1:42 pm Post subject: |
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I am surprised to learn that Alan Carr drives the desk as I thought he had limited radio experience. |
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mark occomore
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Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 4:45 pm Post subject: |
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Blighty wrote: | I am surprised to learn that Alan Carr drives the desk as I thought he had limited radio experience. |
Maybe they haven't got the producers to run the desks? |
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mark occomore
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Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 4:47 pm Post subject: |
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Or maybe they are running the records, trailers and jingles in from the gallery? |
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colby
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Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 8:39 am Post subject: |
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mark occomore wrote: | Or maybe they are running the records, trailers and jingles in from the gallery? |
You don't have galleries in radio studios - only in television. _________________ (signature and avatar removed, violated forum Rule 2.) |
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Rob
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Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 12:00 pm Post subject: |
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colby wrote: | mark occomore wrote: | Or maybe they are running the records, trailers and jingles in from the gallery? |
You don't have galleries in radio studios - only in television. |
The BBC are a producer-led organisation, so there's a room with what looks like a mixer desk for the producer and an "engineer" for the major networks. They can balance levels and insert material from there, even in self-op studios.
It all seems like over manning to me, having worked in commercial radio.
Rob. |
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Fred
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Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 2:56 pm Post subject: |
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Its very usefull I guess should something go wrong in the "main" studio itself, and its also why Sarah Kennedy also thanks people for "running the desk".
When it was mentioned that it could be a producer running the desk from "behind the glass" (a thought that hadn't occured to me) I did decide to look back at the webcam this weekend; I didn't see Alan actually using the desk, just a load of paper over it with him sat in front so maybe this producer theory is correct.
It can be useful when something goes wrong... however I have only ever worked in community radio Restricted Service Licences with only 1 desk before so the whole concept of more than one studio is different for me, let alone the thought that there's someone behind-the-scenes pressing yet more buttons. _________________ Fred Hart
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colby
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Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 8:37 pm Post subject: |
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Fred wrote: | Its very usefull I guess should something go wrong in the "main" studio itself, and its also why Sarah Kennedy also thanks people for "running the desk".
When it was mentioned that it could be a producer running the desk from "behind the glass" (a thought that hadn't occured to me) I did decide to look back at the webcam this weekend; I didn't see Alan actually using the desk, just a load of paper over it with him sat in front so maybe this producer theory is correct. |
There's two levels of "running the desk". For presenters like Johnnie Walker who know the technology as well as anybody, he can ride the studio desk very well. The SM (studio manager) in the control room behind the glass only really keeps an eye over master output levels and other inter-studio switching. However, somebody like Sarah Kennedy will leave most of the balancing to the SM even though she'll still throw up a fader to open a mixer channel and cue a CD or the next track on Galileo (or whatever they're using). She'll start things off but it's the person behind the glass who keeps an eye on the levels and the PPMs.
I know it seems like over-manning, but I believe it's more efficient and produces better results.
Cutting back on manning levels does have its drawbacks. Just look at television crewing. It wasn't that long ago when a location crew (shooting on video) would consist of a cameraman/woman, sound recordist and asistant - plus Director and/or Producer.
Now, with the horrendous budget cutbacks that result in reduced standards, cameramen are expected to monitor sound levels and - heaven forbid - actually direct as well. They're truly a one-man-band. And it's not good. I listen to sound on some location shoots and it's awful - and decent sound recordists are sat at home with nothing to do.
I like the fact that R2 production is afforded the resources appropriate to higher standards - but I can't see even this lasting long when the next round of cuts hits hard, as inevitably it will. _________________ (signature and avatar removed, violated forum Rule 2.) |
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