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mark occomore · Joined: 07 Dec 2006 Posts: 9955 Location: UK

This coming Saturday Dr Who will be covering for Jonathan Ross. Only because Dr Who Special is on Easter Saturday. Laughing

Another BBC Promo? Last month the corporation were accused of over promoting the band U2. Very Happy

Ian Robinson · Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 5:58 pm Post subject:

Er, yes - as I posted in that other thread you started.

Guests include Catherine Tate and John Barrowman so it's all promoting Doctor Who and Tonight's The Night - but as they're all BBC shows I don't really get the U2 comparison.

colby · Joined: 06 Feb 2009 Posts: 1216

Mark Mayhew · Joined: 11 Dec 2006 Posts: 2897

Good God-how bad is going to get on the BBC before someone in their right mind is going to see some sense.

A professional presenter/DJ should be covering for Ross-not some untried personality.

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Gnasty Gnome · Joined: 28 Jul 2007 Posts: 313 Location: West Wales

He might also be less egotistical, smarmy and annoying, and less inclined to make rude phone calls to his elders and betters; in other words, a refreshing improvement on the sitting tenant. Wink

(Sorry, just noticed the unintentional pun! Embarassed

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Ian Robinson · Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 11:13 pm Post subject: Re: David Tennant In For Wossy

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aviddiva · Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 2:45 pm Post subject: David Tennant in for Wossy

And he portrayed Campbell Bain, a wannabe radio presenter in Takin' Over The Asylum! Hence my signature.
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Briant · Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 6:34 pm Post subject:

Neil Tennant?

Ian Robinson · Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 2:14 pm Post subject:

johnump · Joined: 30 Mar 2008 Posts: 172 Location: Location Location

I personally thought the show was awful. It seemed to me as though very little planning had gone into what they were going to talk about. I don't mind ad lib radio but this was just utter tripe.
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Agreed! Come back Baker and Ball !! (Er, without the Ball preferably!)
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Briant · Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 3:12 pm Post subject: Tennant vs Radders.......

I heard the first part of the show and was bored so I switched over to BBC Radio Merseyside. Mark Radcliffe was talking to Billy Butler about his new book and the times when he produced Billy's short lived BBC Radio 2 programmes. Very enjoyable radio!

Number Six · Joined: 14 Dec 2006 Posts: 439 Location: In the village

That was toe-curlingly awful! So bad it almost had me on my knees praying for the return of Danny Baker!

You may be great as The Doctor David, but a radio presenter you ain't. You were, however lightyears ahead of the embaressment that was Catherine Tait. Then again, I never unsterstood the appeal as a comic (I do so hate catchphrases) and she was awful as as the shreiking Donna. Why the Doctor suddenly gets his assistants from Planet Chav?

The worst bit was undoubtedly the competition. They are pretty unfathomable when Andy does them. With those two not understanding them it was just a joke.
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MadeinSurrey · Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 3:41 pm Post subject:

He may not be a natural presenter but at least I was able to have R2 on . Saturdays at 10 are normally a no-go area in this house... I have heard (much) worse.
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mark occomore · Joined: 07 Dec 2006 Posts: 9955 Location: UK

It was between Smooth Radio, Heart and Magic.. Why oh why Radio 2 continue to put on celebrity's who no nothing about Radio is beyond believe. If the controller or who ever could read this, 'please could we have some real DJs covering shows from now on'

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mark occomore · Joined: 07 Dec 2006 Posts: 9955 Location: UK

I didn't really think Doctor Who on Saturday Evening was all that. Although it would be nice to see Michelle Ryan being the next sidekick.

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colby · Joined: 06 Feb 2009 Posts: 1216

Who cares whether the presenter drives the desk or not? After all, "driving the desk" isn't exactly rocket science these days compared to the days of turntables, cart machines and custom-built BBC mixer desks. Today, everything is run from the server-driven playout system, touch screen LCDs and a few faders on a limited mixer.

Surely it's more important that a presenter be "entertaining"? After all, before former pirates Kenny Everett and Tony Blackburn were hired to redesign (and redefine) the new Radio 1 self-drive studio (modelled on BigL Radio London's) by Robin Scott in autumn 1967 didn't all radio presenters sit behind a microphone in the studio whilst SMs and TOs cued grams, tapes and rode the levels on the desk in control rooms?

I don't see what the big deal is. So Ross doesn't ride the desk and relies on Andy Wotsit to do it. Who cares?
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mark occomore · Joined: 07 Dec 2006 Posts: 9955 Location: UK

They are entertainers and not DJ's, and are not needed to practice to drive the desks. The equipment is very expensive. Also It's not just simple as pressing a few buttons and faders.

Briant · Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 8:22 am Post subject:

Not 'driving the desk' is the equivalent of watching 'Top Gear' or having someone else drive your car Laughing

'Never understood that it ain't no good to let other people get your kicks for you''....Bob Dylan.

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John H · Joined: 16 Apr 2008 Posts: 36

Back in the old days when I was cutting my teeth in hospital radio, I was trained in the use of the studio equipment by people who informed me that disc jockeys worked in night clubs and mobile discos, not on radio stations.Radio station people who played records were presenters.Whether or not they rode the desk seemed to be irrelevant to their way of thinking.

I have spent many years in hospital radio now, always driving the desk on my own shows, and I agree with that concept of being a presenter.You are there to communicate with the people as well as to play the music.

So for that reason I usually refer to radio presenters rather than DJs.

Hope that makes some sort of sense!

John H

colby · Joined: 06 Feb 2009 Posts: 1216

I agree with you entirely.

And - let's be honest - it's what comes out of the speakers that counts. There are lots of disc-spinning DJs out there on local and national radio (even Radio 2, dammit) who sound awful whether they ride the desk or not.

Those presenters who have a propensity for talking over intros and outros (and even middletros!) are more likely to be those who are pressing the buttons. Steve Wright is one such person to come to mind! Rolling Eyes

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colby · Joined: 06 Feb 2009 Posts: 1216

A good case in point is the intro to be found on Al Stewart's "Year of The Cat". It has a lovely, lengthy piano intro - but you rarely ever hear it under egotistical DJ "aren't I clever talking right up to the first vocal" voice-overs, which is a pity because it's superb.
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Briant · Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 12:37 pm Post subject:

Imagine someone going for a job interview at the BBC and saying:
'I'm Joe Soap, I know nothing about music, and I'm not technical at all, but my friends say I've got a great personality.'
It wouldn't happen would it? Uh oh, it already has! Rolling Eyes

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