| View previous topic :: View next topic |
| Author |
Message |
mark occomore
Joined: 07 Dec 2006
Posts: 9955
Location: UK
|
 Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 12:35 pm Post subject: Wogan and BBC Radio Rajar Released |
 |
|
Terry Wogan extended his ratings lead over breakfast rival Chris Moyles but could not stop BBC Radio 2 slipping to its lowest share of the audience for nearly three years.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2009/aug/06/rajars-bbc-terry-wogan-chris-moyles
_________________
He's still doing something. Well done Radio2 and co |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
colby
Joined: 06 Feb 2009
Posts: 1216
|
| Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 1:19 pm Post subject: Re: Wogan and BBC Radio Rajar Released |
|
|
| mark occomore wrote: | | He's still doing something. |
Yes, he's hanging on by his fingernails, that's what he's doing. All I heard him doing this morning (for the 10 minutes I could bear before switching off) was wittering on as usual, reading even more silly limericks from the same few pseudonymed correspondents and playing the same old music.
Hmmm.
_________________
(signature and avatar removed, violated forum Rule 2.) |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
MadeinSurrey
Joined: 11 Dec 2006
Posts: 3130
Location: The Beautiful South
|
| Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 3:25 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Yes that's right, Wogan only has the best part of 8 million listeners, he's definitely hanging on by his fingernails... 
_________________
MiS |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Powerfulglenith
Guest
|
| Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 3:25 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Im not surpised Radio 2 is slipping down the ratings, Wogan is awful, talks in riddles, Ken Bruce is fine but dont listen when he isnt on. Jeremy Vine doesnt have an opinion on whats been discussed and seems more interested in cutting people off who have been holding on the phones for ages to play a record. As for the 2 to 7pm schedule, well totally utter dross |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
mark occomore
Joined: 07 Dec 2006
Posts: 9955
Location: UK
|
| Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 3:44 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Radio 2 will slip occasionally when changes happen. I'm sure once those changes have settled in they may have a lift? I can't see how ratings will keep Wogan? I think it's just he enjoys the job? Hey you can't last forever. There must be a point where he will want some time to enjoy away from getting up and driving miles to London every morning he's on duty. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Mark Mayhew
Joined: 11 Dec 2006
Posts: 2897
|
| Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 4:19 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Talking about wittering on I had the misfortune of catching Sarah Kennedy whilst we were driving into London this morning..
She is an utterly hopeless presenter-did anyone hear her wittering on (or was she taking the piss?) about blind people having access to computers. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Rachel
Guest
|
| Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 4:29 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Good old Captain Wogan.....  ( he never reads out my e-mails though)
You can't keep an old Space Captain down. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Rob
Joined: 27 Feb 2007
Posts: 163
Location: Leicester
|
| Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 4:29 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| mark occomore wrote: | | Radio 2 will slip occasionally when changes happen. I'm sure once those changes have settled in they may have a lift? I can't see how ratings will keep Wogan? I think it's just he enjoys the job? Hey you can't last forever. There must be a point where he will want some time to enjoy away from getting up and driving miles to London every morning he's on duty. |
Wogan doesn't drive in. The BBC send a car for him.
Rob. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Mark Mayhew
Joined: 11 Dec 2006
Posts: 2897
|
| Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 5:16 pm Post subject: |
|
|
This REALLY ANNOYS me.
Why does Wogan have a car to drive him into work. I guess the car takes him home again after his show.
Who is paying for this? -us taxpayers
Why can't Wogan take public transport or drive own car into work like the rest of us.
Indeed the exercise might do him good. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
igs007
Joined: 18 Aug 2007
Posts: 190
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Helen May
Joined: 10 Dec 2006
Posts: 19382
Location: Cheshire
|
| Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 7:03 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Mark Mayhew wrote: | This REALLY ANNOYS me.
Why does Wogan have a car to drive him into work. I guess the car takes him home again after his show.
Who is paying for this? -us taxpayers
Why can't Wogan take public transport or drive own car into work like the rest of us.
Indeed the exercise might do him good. |
It could well be in his contract but in anycase how do you know that he doesn't pay it himself? It's not much different from using a taxi.
When I worked shifts I was entitled to either a taxi or petrol allowance as there was no public transport to where I was working for the early starts.
H
_________________
88 - 91 FM this is Radio 2 from the BBC!
I said it live on air in the studio with Jeremy Vine on 10/3/2005 |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Angela W
Joined: 11 Dec 2006
Posts: 7228
Location: North Yorkshire
|
| Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 8:38 pm Post subject: Re: Wogan and BBC Radio Rajar Released |
|
|
| mark occomore wrote: | Terry Wogan extended his ratings lead over breakfast rival Chris Moyles but could not stop BBC Radio 2 slipping to its lowest share of the audience for nearly three years.
|
Is it any wonder the audience numbers are slipping? I don't listen to anything like as much as I used to before all these 'personalities' arrived.
See the letter in the latest Radio Times, I can only agree!
_________________
Pirate Johnnie Walker played my request on 11 April 2009 |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
gazmando
Joined: 15 Apr 2007
Posts: 560
Location: Huntingdon
|
| Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 9:23 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Am I the only one who quite likes the presenters but think it's the repetitve playlists that are making people turn away from Radio 2?
I had to go into work today from 9 o'clock (supposed to be on holiday) and there was virtually NOTHING played that I would personally listen to until The Tracks Of My Years came on.
It used to be sooo different in previous years |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Toggy
Joined: 18 Aug 2008
Posts: 1239
|
| Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 9:23 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Rob wrote: |
Wogan doesn't drive in. The BBC send a car for him.
Rob. |
Partly correct, he does have a driver but I don't think the BBC 'send it for him'
Anyway what does it matter, nothing is going to change, there will still be the same old emails about Wales, Pinot Grigo, Glasgow Rangers and other such things from the same old contributors until the earth stops spinning so we might as well save our breath moaning as listen to something else.  |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
NickSheffield
Joined: 22 Jul 2007
Posts: 508
|
| Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 10:25 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| gazmando wrote: | | Am I the only one who quite likes the presenters but think it's the repetitve playlists that are making people turn away from Radio 2? |
This is unfortunately quite true. There's only so many James Morrison sound a likes you can take. Thing is, I'll probably never drag myself away from Wogan as it's just an easy company to the morning.
For good music - by which I mean my kind of music, of course - 6Music is definitely the place to be. Though Radcliffe, Maconie, Long and Harris (and some others) do their best to keep 'good music' on the station. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
colby
Joined: 06 Feb 2009
Posts: 1216
|
| Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 10:51 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Mark Mayhew wrote: | | She is an utterly hopeless presenter-did anyone hear her wittering on (or was she taking the piss?) about blind people having access to computers. |
I'm glad I didn't hear that or my radio might have been damaged in a fit of rage. I assume (but correct me if I'm on the wrong track) that she was perhaps questioning how blind people can use computers? If so, the woman really is a bloody idiot. I've worked to develop systems that aid the use, by people with a range of disabilities, to use computing systems and with the right support blind people can use today's computing software and hardware without many problems.
Her ignorance and sheer bigotry makes me so angry.
_________________
(signature and avatar removed, violated forum Rule 2.) |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
MadeinSurrey
Joined: 11 Dec 2006
Posts: 3130
Location: The Beautiful South
|
| Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 7:36 am Post subject: |
|
|
Typical of you Colby - you didn't listen but you're abusing Sarah Kennedy.
If you got off your high horse for one second, you might come to the conclusion that you don't actually know everything.
_________________
MiS |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
mark occomore
Joined: 07 Dec 2006
Posts: 9955
Location: UK
|
| Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 7:54 am Post subject: |
|
|
| Rob wrote: | | mark occomore wrote: | | Radio 2 will slip occasionally when changes happen. I'm sure once those changes have settled in they may have a lift? I can't see how ratings will keep Wogan? I think it's just he enjoys the job? Hey you can't last forever. There must be a point where he will want some time to enjoy away from getting up and driving miles to London every morning he's on duty. |
Wogan doesn't drive in. The BBC send a car for him.
Rob. |
I thought it was a merc he drove? |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Ian Robinson
Site Admin
Joined: 11 Dec 2006
Posts: 3609
Location: Chorley, Lancashire
|
| Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 8:55 am Post subject: |
|
|
| NickSheffield wrote: | | gazmando wrote: | | Am I the only one who quite likes the presenters but think it's the repetitve playlists that are making people turn away from Radio 2? |
This is unfortunately quite true. There's only so many James Morrison sound a likes you can take. |
I agree too. But I wonder if the BBC bosses will realise the declining audience share is because of the music, not the lack of 'star' presenters. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
colby
Joined: 06 Feb 2009
Posts: 1216
|
| Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 10:29 am Post subject: |
|
|
| MadeinSurrey wrote: | | Typical of you Colby - you didn't listen but you're abusing Sarah Kennedy. |
If you read my post again you'll see that I did include the caveat that I didn't hear the reference but doubtless those who did would correct me if I had assumed wrongly.
That seems fair enough to me.
| MadeinSurrey wrote: | | If you got off your high horse for one second, you might come to the conclusion that you don't actually know everything. |
That's irrelevant. If SK indeed inferred what's been suggested above (and I'm still waiting for somebody to tell me I've arrived at the wrong conclusion), then it's perfectly reasonable for me to stand up for people who have sight impairments whether you approve or not.
If SK did indeed say, or imply, what I've understood to have been said or implied then she's a fool. Period.
_________________
(signature and avatar removed, violated forum Rule 2.) |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Rob
Joined: 27 Feb 2007
Posts: 163
Location: Leicester
|
| Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 11:25 am Post subject: |
|
|
| mark occomore wrote: | | Rob wrote: | | mark occomore wrote: | | Radio 2 will slip occasionally when changes happen. I'm sure once those changes have settled in they may have a lift? I can't see how ratings will keep Wogan? I think it's just he enjoys the job? Hey you can't last forever. There must be a point where he will want some time to enjoy away from getting up and driving miles to London every morning he's on duty. |
Wogan doesn't drive in. The BBC send a car for him.
Rob. |
I thought it was a merc he drove? |
| Toggy wrote: | | Partly correct, he does have a driver but I don't think the BBC 'send it for him' |
| Mark Mayhew wrote: | This REALLY ANNOYS me.
Why does Wogan have a car to drive him into work. I guess the car takes him home again after his show.
Who is paying for this? -us taxpayers
Why can't Wogan take public transport or drive own car into work like the rest of us.
Indeed the exercise might do him good. |
My understanding is that the provision of a BBC car and driver to and from work is part of Wogan's contract, though I could be mistaken. The benefit to Wogan is obvious - he can fall out of bed into the car (via the wardrobe!) without having to wake up fully - he can do this during the drive. If I were Sir Tel, I would value every minute of sleep in the morning, too.
The benefit to the BBC is that if Wogan misses his alarm, then the driver knocking at the door will still get him to work in time for his programme.
There is no reason why contracts shouldn't include provisions like this. The BBC has a fleet of cars and drivers they use for ferrying people around (usually guests on programmes) and can provide the facility for Terry more cheaply than he could for himself. The BBC know what this costs and I'm sure they add the cost to the cash payment they make for Wogan's services when deciding the value of the presenter. If he's worth, say, £750,000, why shouldn't he take some of that in the form of a lift to work??
Rob |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
John W
Joined: 07 Dec 2006
Posts: 3367
Location: Warwickshire, UK
|
| Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 11:48 am Post subject: |
|
|
| colby wrote: | | MadeinSurrey wrote: | | Typical of you Colby - you didn't listen but you're abusing Sarah Kennedy. |
If you read my post again you'll see that I did include the caveat that I didn't hear the reference but doubtless those who did would correct me if I had assumed wrongly.
|
Colby, I have to side with MIS on this occaion. It would be much fairer if you listened to what SK said, I know she can be difficult to listen to, but at least try and get the gist of what she said and then comment. There can be no real argument then, just discussion.
John |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Rachel
Guest
|
| Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 12:31 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Mark Mayhew wrote: | This REALLY ANNOYS me.
Why does Wogan have a car to drive him into work. I guess the car takes him home again after his show.
Who is paying for this? -us taxpayers
Why can't Wogan take public transport or drive own car into work like the rest of us.
Indeed the exercise might do him good. |
We should be jolly pleased that Wogan gets a lift to work each day. Most days he doesn't know which way is up, so for him to drive in would be highly dangerous to the public. The reason why he's been at Radio 2 for so long is, we know where he is; imagine the panic that would ensue on the roads, if Wogan was released into the community. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
colby
Joined: 06 Feb 2009
Posts: 1216
|
| Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 5:17 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| John W wrote: | | colby wrote: | | MadeinSurrey wrote: | | Typical of you Colby - you didn't listen but you're abusing Sarah Kennedy. |
If you read my post again you'll see that I did include the caveat that I didn't hear the reference but doubtless those who did would correct me if I had assumed wrongly.
|
Colby, I have to side with MIS on this occaion. It would be much fairer if you listened to what SK said, I know she can be difficult to listen to, but at least try and get the gist of what she said and then comment. There can be no real argument then, just discussion.
John |
I stand by what I wrote. If she said what is implied, then I'm totally justified in writing my comments. If she didn't, then I'll withdraw my comments. Can't be fairer than that can I?
However, ANYBODY who calls into question a blind person's ability to "use a computer" simply because of their visual impairment is grossly insulting all blind people, and I'll call such persons "an idiot" without hesitation. And that applies to SK - if, indeed, that's what she said.
I notice that nobody has yet claimed that she did no such thing.
_________________
(signature and avatar removed, violated forum Rule 2.) |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
John W
Joined: 07 Dec 2006
Posts: 3367
Location: Warwickshire, UK
|
| Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 6:25 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| colby wrote: | If she didn't, then I'll withdraw my comments. Can't be fairer than that can I?
|
Yes you can, use iplayer to listen to what she said then report back for discussion.
Colby we've had similar postings slagging of Evans and Sunday programmes without the posters watching them, and that's not what this forum is about.
John W |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
colby
Joined: 06 Feb 2009
Posts: 1216
|
| Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 10:57 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| John W wrote: | | Yes you can, use iplayer to listen to what she said then report back for discussion. |
No thanks, John. I'm not a glutton for punishment. And I don't need to, because my comments were conditional, hence the caveat. I think, therefore, they were totally reasonable.
| John W wrote: | | Colby we've had similar postings slagging of Evans and Sunday programmes without the posters watching them, and that's not what this forum is about. |
I haven't "slagged anybody off".
I still stand by my comment, so that's the end of the matter as far as I'm concerned.
_________________
(signature and avatar removed, violated forum Rule 2.) |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
MadeinSurrey
Joined: 11 Dec 2006
Posts: 3130
Location: The Beautiful South
|
| Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 9:26 am Post subject: |
|
|
Colby, if you could just occasionally temper your comments to reflect that, actually, the rest of us sometimes have a differing point of view to you, and that this is acceptable, we would all be a lot happier. As it is, your posts just come across as lectures that put people off from joining the debate. Thanks.
_________________
MiS |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
colby
Joined: 06 Feb 2009
Posts: 1216
|
| Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 9:38 am Post subject: |
|
|
| MadeinSurrey wrote: | | Colby, if you could just occasionally temper your comments to reflect that, actually, the rest of us sometimes have a differing point of view to you, and that this is acceptable, we would all be a lot happier. As it is, your posts just come across as lectures that put people off from joining the debate. Thanks. |
I don't see what the fuss is about. I said that if she said such a thing about people with a given disability then she was an idiot - the operative words being "if" and "then".
I would say that of anyone who made such a silly statement. I'm not "lecturing" anyone, I'm just reflecting what I consider to be a reasonable view and a view held - no doubt - by any fair-minded person. The fact that such a remark (even though implied) is attributed to Ms. Kennedy doesn't surprise me at all given the kind of statements she's known to make from time to time.
So - once again - I stand by my comments.
_________________
(signature and avatar removed, violated forum Rule 2.) |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
MadeinSurrey
Joined: 11 Dec 2006
Posts: 3130
Location: The Beautiful South
|
| Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 9:54 am Post subject: |
|
|
Colby, you have completely missed the point - and issued another one of your hectoring lectures. Can you not see why we get fed up with it?
_________________
MiS |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Mark Mayhew
Joined: 11 Dec 2006
Posts: 2897
|
| Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 10:31 am Post subject: |
|
|
Colby's posts and reasoned comments seem fine to me.
Last edited by Mark Mayhew on Sat Aug 08, 2009 11:47 am; edited 1 time in total |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
colby
Joined: 06 Feb 2009
Posts: 1216
|
| Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 11:40 am Post subject: |
|
|
| MadeinSurrey wrote: | | Colby, you have completely missed the point - and issued another one of your hectoring lectures. |
I haven't missed the point at all, and I think the point that I have made is quite a reasonable one. Those sight-imparied, computer-using, people I've helped in the past would no doubt agree with me too. And I'm not hectoring, either; if people are impervious to the simple point I'm making (out of a desire to protect a bigot) then hard luck.
| MadeinSurrey wrote: | | Can you not see why we get fed up with it? |
Whose problem is that? Mine? Nope............
_________________
(signature and avatar removed, violated forum Rule 2.) |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
MadeinSurrey
Joined: 11 Dec 2006
Posts: 3130
Location: The Beautiful South
|
| Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 12:05 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Clearly I am fighting a lost cause here, you are one of those people who are always right and always have to have the last word. What a pleasure you must be to know!
_________________
MiS |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
colby
Joined: 06 Feb 2009
Posts: 1216
|
| Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 1:25 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| MadeinSurrey wrote: | | Clearly I am fighting a lost cause here, you are one of those people who are always right and always have to have the last word. What a pleasure you must be to know! |
Thank you most kindly.
All I've done its to argue in support of people who are - one can safely assume - are being ridiculed by a person in a position of privilege. Mark M. is agreement with that, too.
For my part, it has nothing to do with "always being right" or "having the last word". However, now you come to mention I'll make this the last word. 
_________________
(signature and avatar removed, violated forum Rule 2.) |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
MadeinSurrey
Joined: 11 Dec 2006
Posts: 3130
Location: The Beautiful South
|
| Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 3:22 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Oh well, if Mark M, agrees. you must be right. By the way, there was absolutely no element of ridicule in what Sarah said - quite the opposite . But you wouldn't know that, because you didn't hear the show. Doesn't stop you from giving us the benefit of your opinion though does it?
_________________
MiS |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
iknewdavidjacobsmum
Joined: 07 Dec 2006
Posts: 336
|
| Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 3:27 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Blast! I wanted the last word. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
John W
Joined: 07 Dec 2006
Posts: 3367
Location: Warwickshire, UK
|
| Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 4:40 pm Post subject: |
|
|
You just had it!
Oh-oh I just have and I don't even listen to SK, oh and the thread is headed Wogan who I don't listen to either  |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
colby
Joined: 06 Feb 2009
Posts: 1216
|
| Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 4:45 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| MadeinSurrey wrote: | | Doesn't stop you from giving us the benefit of your opinion though does it? |
No. Abnd you're free to give us the benefit of yours. So what's the issue?
| Mark Mayhew wrote: | | She is an utterly hopeless presenter-did anyone hear her wittering on (or was she taking the piss?) about blind people having access to computers. |
I'm just reminding the others, Mark, of your post because they seem to have forgotten what prompted my wholly justified comments - based on the "if indeed she was taking the p, then............ she's an idiot" principle.
And I still stick by it.
And I don't care what anybody else thinks.
And that's that.
_________________
(signature and avatar removed, violated forum Rule 2.) |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
MadeinSurrey
Joined: 11 Dec 2006
Posts: 3130
Location: The Beautiful South
|
| Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 5:01 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Why don't you add "ya boo shucks" for good measure? Have you been potty trained yet?
_________________
MiS |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
colby
Joined: 06 Feb 2009
Posts: 1216
|
| Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 5:12 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| MadeinSurrey wrote: | | Why don't you add "ya boo shucks" for good measure? |
I can't say that I need to. I made my (simple) point several posts back.
| MadeinSurrey wrote: | | Have you been potty trained yet? |
That's very good. Any more where that came from?
_________________
(signature and avatar removed, violated forum Rule 2.) |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
MadeinSurrey
Joined: 11 Dec 2006
Posts: 3130
Location: The Beautiful South
|
| Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 6:03 pm Post subject: |
|
|
You are SO not having the last word!
_________________
MiS |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
FAQ
Search
Memberlist
Usergroups
Register
Profile
Log in to check your private messages
Log in
