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mark occomore
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 Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 9:36 am Post subject: Dawn Patrol Will Survive |
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Sarah will be sadly missed from her army of fans. If she did leave
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I think that's just a rumour that you're trying to start Mark.
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mark occomore
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| Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 9:52 am Post subject: |
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| Lord Evan Elpuss wrote: | | I think that's just a rumour that you're trying to start Mark. |
Apparently Alex has something to sat on the 14th about his show
http://www.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/series/oddcast/
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| Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 10:24 am Post subject: |
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So we get a retirement announcement every Monday morning now Mark!
Stop scarmongering Mark have you nothing better to do?
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I think he could be right. Alex said this morning he's some important news about the show next Monday. It could well be that Sarah's going and the new breakfast show (which I won't be listening to) will start at 7am, with Alex going on till then.
We'll have to wait and see won't we. |
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mark occomore
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| Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 11:15 am Post subject: |
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| It will be shocking to see two high profile morning shows with high presenters leaving, but I'm guessing Chris Evans would want the whole morning to do breakfast and not split into two shows? |
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Mark,
please can you not post things with definitive headlines when they have not yet happened? I very much doubt the R2 Controller has tipped you the wink about what is going to happen. You have made assumptions and created the wrong impression - deliberately I suspect
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| Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 11:37 am Post subject: |
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| Iain Smith has been spreading this elsewhere (and it was also mentioned on Media Guardian last night) but I don't think we can make any definitive statements. I believe Chris is a fan of Sarah Kennedy, so might not necessarily want her to leave. |
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mark occomore
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| It's logic and common sense to combine Breakfast together. I can't see Evans wanting to host a high profile breakfast show for two hours a day? It's time for change at Radio 2. It's upsetting, but I'm sure we will hear them else where? Yes, I'm sure Chris is admires Sarah, but he won't have a control over the schedules, and Pause For Thought which is produced for Radio 2 by unique will have to be included too. |
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| Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 1:33 pm Post subject: Re: Dawn Patrol No More In 2010. |
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| mark occomore wrote: | I just wonder if Sarah will leave in the new revamp at the end of the year? I think she knew of the announcement Terry is leaving so had an extended leave? She will also be moved to weekends, or leave the station altogether? I think Alex Lester show will be extended to either 6.30am or 7am when Chris will take over and Ken will start half hour earlier at 9am?
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Mark, your post is deceptive. All you're doing is speculating on the basis of the rumours you've picked up on other websites and you're presenting those rumours here as if there's a basis of truth. Your subject line: "Dawn Patrol No More In 2010" is totally absurd.
Should you not at least have written: "Will Dawn Patrol survive the reshuffle?" or "Rumours that Dawn Patrol to be axed". Either of those would be acceptable.
Perhaps you've learned your reporting techniques from the Daily Mail - "never let the truth get in the way of a good headline".
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I've tried this tack with Mark O, Colby, it's like p*****g in the wind
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| MadeinSurrey wrote: | | I've tried this tack with Mark O, Colby, it's like p*****g in the wind |
I know what you mean. In fact, my jeans feel a bit wet already! 
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Yes I was thinking of changing the title. Done.. BOSS  |
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colby
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| mark occomore wrote: | | Yes I was thinking of changing the title. Done.. BOSS |
Good chap. We'll have you writing up the Obits next week. Now make some tea for the staff please!
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| Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 1:58 pm Post subject: Re: Dawn Patrol No More In 2010. |
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| colby wrote: | | Should you not at least have written: "Will Dawn Patrol survive the reshuffle?" or "Rumours that Dawn Patrol to be axed". Either of those would be acceptable. |
or, the right occasion for one of Mark's famous question marks!
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| Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 2:01 pm Post subject: Re: Dawn Patrol No More In 2010. |
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| SantaFefan wrote: | | colby wrote: | | Should you not at least have written: "Will Dawn Patrol survive the reshuffle?" or "Rumours that Dawn Patrol to be axed". Either of those would be acceptable. |
or, the right occasion for one of Mark's famous question marks! |
Ironically, yes.
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mark occomore
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| Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 2:06 pm Post subject: |
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| How ever would you expect a high profile figure like Evans to do Breakfast for two hours. Changes have to happen to make it different? |
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| mark occomore wrote: | | How ever would you expect a high profile figure like Evans to do Breakfast for two hours. |
I know. It will be quite an achievement for him - especially since his track record of getting out of bed to do a national network breakfast show isn't that good.
Maybe it could be reduced to one hour to begin with and then if it works out increase it bit by bit up to the full two hours?
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2 minutes would be over long
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mark occomore
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What Alex actually said was "There's some good news about the best time of the day show to come - but I'm sworn to secrecy until Monday".
If it's linked to Sarah, I expect she will be given the chance to announce her own departure before Alex, so maybe she'll do it on Friday, or the BBC will press release it on behalf of her[/quote] |
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| Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 6:42 pm Post subject: |
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| MadeinSurrey wrote: | | 2 minutes would be over long |
ROFL
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| Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 6:45 pm Post subject: |
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| mark occomore wrote: | What Alex actually said was "There's some good news about the best time of the day show to come - but I'm sworn to secrecy until Monday".
If it's linked to Sarah, I expect she will be given the chance to announce her own departure before Alex, so maybe she'll do it on Friday, or the BBC will press release it on behalf of her |
I thought she was going to be off sick for the rest of the week, so how can she do it on Friday?
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Sorry if she's back and I've got it all wrong but I don't hear her show most days.
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| mark occomore wrote: | | What Alex actually said was "There's some good news about the best time of the day show to come - but I'm sworn to secrecy until Monday". |
Right. Ok.... if get it so far Mark.......
| mark occomore wrote: | | If it's linked to Sarah, I expect she will be given the chance to announce her own departure before Alex, so maybe she'll do it on Friday, or the BBC will press release it on behalf of her |
No you're back in speculation territory, so really we're going round in circles.
And - by the way - to "press release it on behalf of her" doesn't make sense. It's either a Press Release from the BBC's PR office or it isn't!
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| Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 6:50 pm Post subject: |
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| Helen May wrote: | | mark occomore wrote: | What Alex actually said was "There's some good news about the best time of the day show to come - but I'm sworn to secrecy until Monday".
If it's linked to Sarah, I expect she will be given the chance to announce her own departure before Alex, so maybe she'll do it on Friday, or the BBC will press release it on behalf of her |
I thought she was going to be off sick for the rest of the week, so how can she do it on Friday?
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Sorry if she's back and I've got it all wrong but I don't hear her show most days. |
Helen,
No she's not due to be back until Monday at the latest. I was just thinking how can Alex announce something which may effect Dawn Patrol before Sarah. |
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| mark occomore wrote: | | No she's not due to be back until Monday at the latest. I was just thinking how can Alex announce something which may effect Dawn Patrol before Sarah. |
Don't you mean "at the earliest"?
And anyhow I think Alex will be announcing something relevant to the Alex show and nobody else's, don't you. I can hardly imagine him coming on air saying "and now I've got some great gossip about the Dawn Patrol show" can you?
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mark occomore
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| Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 7:19 pm Post subject: |
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| colby wrote: | | mark occomore wrote: | | No she's not due to be back until Monday at the latest. I was just thinking how can Alex announce something which may effect Dawn Patrol before Sarah. |
Don't you mean "at the earliest"?
And anyhow I think Alex will be announcing something relevant to the Alex show and nobody else's, don't you. I can hardly imagine him coming on air saying "and now I've got some great gossip about the Dawn Patrol show" can you? |
No, but if the show is extended into DP then is would mean he's announced it before Sarah. A little worrying. The show will either be extended or start early. Or he may move to another best time of the day? |
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Mark, please stop all this silly speculation nonsense. Whether it turns out to be true or not you're now making yourself look very stupid.
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| Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 7:32 pm Post subject: |
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I struggle to see (or maybe even hear  ) Alex going on air saying: "Great news, this show is replacing Dawn Patrol" - basically a way of attacking SK (even if not directly).
I don't think anyone should be speculating as to what the details of Alex's announcement are - they neither confirm nor deny anything; its best to wait just a couple more days and then post the truth on Monday!!!
One thing that I do think though, is that if Dawn Patrol is going to survive, then either it or Chris Evans will have to change/evolve as the two at the moment would sound out of place next to each other.
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| Fred wrote: |
One thing that I do think though, is that if Dawn Patrol is going to survive, then either it or Chris Evans will have to change/evolve as the two at the moment would sound out of place next to each other. |
Not sure that thats true - while there is a strange similarity in tone and presentation between Terry and Sarah, the difference between Chris Evans and say, Desmond Carrington or David Jacobs and Janice Long are miles apart and they both sound fine together to me. |
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I've always said the crunching change of gear and pace at 7pm is ludicrous. It was so in 1967 and it still is today.
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| RockitRon wrote: | | I've always said the crunching change of gear and pace at 7pm is ludicrous. It was so in 1967 and it still is today. |
Yes, I agree. It was actually worse in 1967 because for much of the 24-hour cycle Radio 1 shared output with Radio 2, so we were forced to endure a crunch from (say) the crashing climax of Fluff's "Pick of the Pops" and then "Sing Something Simple" which I absolutely hated (it reminded that it was school tomorrow).
To be honest, I think we desperately need a new national commercial-free network - BBC Radio 1.5 perhaps?
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| I think that BBC Radio 2 too much like BBC Radio 1.5 already. BBC Radio 2.5 would suit me better. |
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| RockitRon wrote: | | I've always said the crunching change of gear and pace at 7pm is ludicrous. It was so in 1967 and it still is today. |
Yes... brace yourself it's (gasp!) a Fantasy Schedule from me:
7 - 9.30am Chris Evans
9.30 - 12noon Ken Bruce
12 - 2 Jeremy Vine (if we must)
2pm - 5pm Simon Mayo - featuring interviews, entertainment, books, films, etc.
5pm - 7pm Radcliffe & Maconie
7 - 7.30pm - 'Fun' specialist shows, such as a quiz, music news, comedy, new act gigs, and reviews show
7.30 - midnight Specialist shows, concerts and documentaries. |
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Replacing Wogan with the verbose idiot is one thing, but why eat into the preceding time by 30 minutes? Why wish even more pain and suffering upon the Great British Listening Public than is already threatened?
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| Ian Robinson wrote: | | RockitRon wrote: | | I've always said the crunching change of gear and pace at 7pm is ludicrous. It was so in 1967 and it still is today. |
Yes... brace yourself it's (gasp!) a Fantasy Schedule from me:
7 - 9.30am Chris Evans
9.30 - 12noon Ken Bruce
12 - 2 Jeremy Vine (if we must)
2pm - 5pm Simon Mayo - featuring interviews, entertainment, books, films, etc.
5pm - 7pm Radcliffe & Maconie
7 - 7.30pm - 'Fun' specialist shows, such as a quiz, music news, comedy, new act gigs, and reviews show
7.30 - midnight Specialist shows, concerts and documentaries. |
How about:-
7:00-9:00am Sarah Kennedy.
9:00-9:30 Chris Evans (Until his contract runs out!)
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| Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 5:09 pm Post subject: |
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| Because whoever presents Breakfast doesn't really bother me. I listen to 5Live, BBC7 or BBC Radio Lancashire and I can't see that changing. |
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| Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 5:14 pm Post subject: |
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| Ian Robinson wrote: | | Because whoever presents Breakfast doesn't really bother me. I listen to 5Live, BBC7 or BBC Radio Lancashire and I can't see that changing. |
Well thanks a bundle!
| Lord Evan Elpuss wrote: | How about:-
7:00-9:00am Sarah Kennedy.
9:00-9:30 Chris Evans (Until his contract runs out!) |
How about:
6:00-7:30am Sarah Kennedy.
7:30-9:30 Anybody Else (No Really!!!)
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| colby wrote: | | Ian Robinson wrote: | | Because whoever presents Breakfast doesn't really bother me. I listen to 5Live, BBC7 or BBC Radio Lancashire and I can't see that changing. |
Well thanks a bundle! |
No worries. You see, if you don't like something there's plenty of other stuff out there! I'm not going to sit here, hour after hour, day after day, obsessing about it.
Mind you, if they were to scrap Friday Night Is Music Night in favour of Jo Whiley I'd go mental!
Anyway... the point of my schedule was at the other end of the day, the 7pm gear-change, seeing as the morning already seems to have been decided by bosses. |
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| I can't wait for Jo whiley to move either to Radio 2 or 6 Music. |
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| Ian Robinson wrote: | | You see, if you don't like something there's plenty of other stuff out there! |
With British radio in the dire state that it is I'm not so sure about that any more.
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