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mark occomore
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Blimey! He does look like he's sleeping rough! ( As he said himself this morning) If I'd seen him like that, I'd have bought him a pasty, give him a few quid and one of my, so where does your life go from here chats.  I said that powerplate wouldn't do anything. |
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| What a different sounding show this morning. Such a transformation. |
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Helen May
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What was the difference and was it any good?
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| Rachel wrote: | | Blimey! He does look like he's sleeping rough! |
"There's a picture of me in the papers today where I look 130 years old with white hair and blue lips.
It was taken outside my house on Saturday, after I had been driving a car with the roof down for an hour. I have since checked and have decided today is a good day, as I only look around 60 - oh alright then, 65."
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mark occomore
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| NickSheffield wrote: | | What a different sounding show this morning. Such a transformation. |
Trying to be sarcastic.  ... I can't hear anything different. Rubbish reports from the media again. |
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Rob
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Most of Radio 2's presenters present their programmes on a conversational voice. This is broadcasting to an audience.
Some presenters (no names, no packdrill) use a voice different to that they would hold a conversation with. This is broadcasting at an audience.
Radio 2 have replaced a presenter from the first category with one from the second. No wonder there are complaints...
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| I got a complimentary copy of the "Saga" magazine today and there was a letter in it about what the writer called "The screeching Chris Evans" and this "childish egotist" The usual complaints of juvenile ranting, silly quizzes and sillier interviews were made. |
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SantaFefan
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| Rob wrote: | Most of Radio 2's presenters present their programmes on a conversational voice. This is broadcasting to an audience.
Some presenters (no names, no packdrill) use a voice different to that they would hold a conversation with. This is broadcasting at an audience.
Radio 2 have replaced a presenter from the first category with one from the second. No wonder there are complaints...
Rob |
But that doesn't necessarily mean one is better than the other though does it?
Look at Dermot O'Leary, he talks to the audience and I think he's unbearable.. whereas Emperor Rosco, Alan Freed or even Tony Blackburn in his prime, talked at an audience and were great! ( not great examples I'll agree )
all of the above in my opinion of course..
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| essexlady wrote: | | I got a complimentary copy of the "Saga" magazine today and there was a letter in it about what the writer called "The screeching Chris Evans" and this "childish egotist" The usual complaints of juvenile ranting, silly quizzes and sillier interviews were made. |
It seems like I'm defending Evans ( I appear to be doing this a lot lately  )
but I'd suggest the writer of that letter hasn't really listened to his show ... I'm not a fan of his but he certainly doesn't "screech" ( or shout )and "juvenile ranting" is dubious too.
I've said before, if some of his "spots" were carried out in the old days by the Pirate or early Radio 1 DJs, they may have been regarded as entertaining?
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Ok, on Monday night, I was being sarcastic, true - I was a bit annoyed, as I had hoped he would have scaled back some of the features - and he didn't. It was as if the show had taken no break.
However, I am finding myself wanting to listen to this show in a morning. No matter what other radio stations I try, I do find myself drawn back to Chris. I do like Chris Evans. I enjoyed his Drivetime show, I enjoyed his Saturday show, I enjoyed TFI Friday, I enjoyed the Big Breakfast and his Virgin/Radio 1 breakfast show (admittedly, I was a child in those days). So, it's not the man that puts me off, and I could grow to enjoy the show. Hmm, i'm ambivalent.
Not sure why I've posted this but I can't make up my mind on what I think - is anyone else in this boat? |
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essexlady
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Well SantaFe this is the full letter printed in Saga - I was being lazy.
Alarm Call - Screeching Chris Evans is proof that the BBC is gradually phasing out it's older audience and cultivating a much younger listener.
On listening to his new show, following Terry Wogan's departure, my fears were quickly justified. There was the usual juvenile ranting, silly quizzes and sillier interviews, saved only by the gravitas of the lovely Moira Stuart.
Who would wish to replace the gentle wake-up tones and humour of Wogan with the noisy alarm call of this childish egotist? Not me BBC. You are well on your way to alienating everyone over 40. |
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Angela W
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| essexlady wrote: |
Alarm Call - Screeching Chris Evans is proof that the BBC is gradually phasing out it's older audience and cultivating a much younger listener.
On listening to his new show, following Terry Wogan's departure, my fears were quickly justified. There was the usual juvenile ranting, silly quizzes and sillier interviews, saved only by the gravitas of the lovely Moira Stuart.
Who would wish to replace the gentle wake-up tones and humour of Wogan with the noisy alarm call of this childish egotist? Not me BBC. You are well on your way to alienating everyone over 40. |
......and yet people still say that we should give him a chance!
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I started to receive that SAGA magazine - even though I hadn't asked for it! plus, quotations for Motor Home insurance for some reason!
I quickly got on the blower and told them to cancel it straight away.. 
Yes, I wouldn't rush to praise Chris Evans but on the Radio 2 message boards, there are so many posts slating him both personally and professionally that I find it all too much now.
Whether one likes him or not, there's no doubt that compared to regular people, he has a talent for hosting a show.
I dip in and out of the breakfast show and yes, he still irritates but nowhere near as much as he did..
I don't agree that he shouts or screeches.. he just doesn't. I will agree that some of his spots are silly and not for me but then again Wogan used to make me cringe sometimes.. in fact more and more.
I think the argument about alienating the older listener is perfectly true and there needs to be another Radio 2 Extra for them but that's not Evans' fault, the station has to accommodate younger listeners.. just as it did when I first started to listen back in the 90s.
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seems a lot of fuss about nothing to me... clearing a piece of land and putting up a fence should be decided at Officer level, not a Planning Application. More tax payers money if it goes to an Appeal..
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Rob
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| SantaFefan wrote: | | Rob wrote: | Most of Radio 2's presenters present their programmes on a conversational voice. This is broadcasting to an audience.
Some presenters (no names, no packdrill) use a voice different to that they would hold a conversation with. This is broadcasting at an audience.
Radio 2 have replaced a presenter from the first category with one from the second. No wonder there are complaints...
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But that doesn't necessarily mean one is better than the other though does it?
Look at Dermot O'Leary, he talks to the audience and I think he's unbearable.. whereas Emperor Rosco, Alan Freed or even Tony Blackburn in his prime, talked at an audience and were great! ( not great examples I'll agree )
all of the above in my opinion of course.. |
Some people prefer one style, some the other. I agree, there is no right or wrong answer, just personal preferences.
My point is that the BBC have built up an audience mainly on the strength of talking in a conversational voice. You could close your eyes listening to Wogan and imagine him using the same voice if he were sitting in your lounge with you. You can't say the same of Chris Evans for most of the programme; imagine him passing the time of day with you in the voice he uses for saying who's having a special day and you'll see what I mean. As it happens, I feel that the best bits are those where he is talking to someone in front of him because he tends to talk more conversationally then (darn, I've just given away my preference...).
Yes, the high-energy style of radio has its fans. Chris Moyles has been entertaining them for years, and he's doing something right, pulling millions of listeners. But my experience is that people tend to slow down as they get older, so the style is less likely to appeal to an over-35 audience.
Now, will someone please remind me what age profile Radio 2 is supposed to be attracting?
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Now, will someone please remind me what age profile Radio 2 is supposed to be attracting?
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40 going on 14 ?  |
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