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Clive55 · Joined: 08 Dec 2006 Posts: 1336

Half an hour in. Gordon brown doing much better than expected.
Putting across solid polocies and arguments while David cameron waffles.
And David cameron made a big Boob already. "When I went into rehab" he said. So, he';s a junkie??

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Great TV-really enjoying it.

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Having got out of Rehab, David Cameron is actually doing better in the education round.
Brown too wedded to Labours' mania for over examenation & over- regulating

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The main mistake Brown has made so far was trying to cosy up too much to Nick

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Would have preferred audience participation a la Question Time.

Ian.

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MadeinSurrey · Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 1:37 pm Post subject:

I thought Cleggy came across very well far better than Cameron who looked the novice he is, and more cuddly than Gordo.

If I had to choose the next PM out of those 3, I'd opt for Mr Clegg.
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.....and to think they want to lower the voting age to 16......... 'oh my God smiley'

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SantaFefan · Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2010 10:20 am Post subject:

I got to watch the second debate and the more I hear of them all, the more I hope Gordon Brown will win.. I think Clegg lives in Cuckoo land.
I think Mr. Brown benefits from being edgy and "on the attack".. this is what I'm looking for in today's situation, somebody who speaks their mind.
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SantaFefan · Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2010 6:12 pm Post subject:

The thought of a Liberal Government brought about by three TV shows makes me shudder and I hope the British public won't resort to X Factor voting.
I do hope Labour get to stay in purely because I feel we need a further period of stability and, like it or not, things are improving slowly.

I don't agree with Gordon's plan to keep the elderly in their own homes for as long as possible (with the accompanying massive spending to make this possible) it just doesn't work in most cases - apart from on paper.
But the whole care for the elderly situation needs a shake up as it's failing badly. Our Social Services increase last year was 1%... that didn't even cover our increase in electricity bills... it's a time bomb.
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Sheltered Housing for elderly people is, for many people, the best option. It certainly has been a life-saver (literally) for my 80-year-old mother-in-law.

Clive55 · Joined: 08 Dec 2006 Posts: 1336

Indeed, that is another option.
i really don't think the Tories have thought out a policy on this.
Some months ago when Gordon Brown first anounced the free home care policy, I heard a Tory rep- I can't recall his name- being questioned on the radio. The presenter tackled the Tory on their policy, saying "What if an old person wants to stay in their own home. Shouldn't we be helping them to do this?" (Or words to that effect)
The answer by the Tory shadow minister was so idiotic I recall it exactly to this day.
He replied "Of course, NO ONE wants to go into a home. But when it is decided a person needs to go into a home, that is the decision & they have no choice in the matter"
APALLING & RUBBISH. When my mum came out of hospital we had a meeting to look at the options. Going into a home was one.
I decided I'd like to look after her at home, and that was what my mum preffered.
So it was done and we got in carers to come in while i was at work.
Of course old people & their families have a CHOICE.
If the Tories want to take away that choice, they are totally clueless and bonkers.
AND with the country facing economic hard times, forcing old people into old age homes would cost a fortune.
But then we know that Cameroon & his Eton school chums are clueless

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Also, both the Lib Dems and Tories have plans to cut Taxes.
Of course this would be nice, but the country simply can not afford this at the present time.

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ColinB · Guest

Despite all the puff and platitudes, I still haven't heard what David Cameron's crowd would have done to avert the banking crisis. Or, in fact, what he proposes to do to put things right. It's OK to say "there'll have to be cuts", but I really don't think I've heard any really convincing proposals beyond such an oft-repeated statement.

Perhaps I haven't been paying attention!

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SantaFefan · Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 11:15 am Post subject:

We always stress exactly that point, it must be their decision that residential care is right for them in their circumstances.
Looking at it from our point of view, the last thing we need is a resident who sits and constantly moans about being held captive or that they hate it here!
Our home like others, is a business after all and it has to appeal to new customers so a nice atmosphere is essential.

There's no clear cut answer to caring for the elderly but I do feel for the most part, the Government and it's Social Services departments are primarily interested in "ticking boxes and closing files" we seen it over and over again.

As I mentioned, home carers are good for the "intermediate" stage where a little help in personal care or preparing meals is required but I do feel it's far from ideal due to the pressures placed upon the carer to get to as many people as possible.

A good care home, apart from providing excellent food and drinks, personal care, mobility assistance, medicine procedures, outings etc, also observes the resident 24/7.. any downturn in health is noticed straight away and acted upon.
All this for just over £2 per hour? it's a bargain.. Laughing

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Helen May · Joined: 10 Dec 2006 Posts: 19382 Location: Cheshire

Can we put our names down for later please SanteFe? Smile

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SantaFefan · Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 1:01 pm Post subject:

Much later I'm sure Helen... Laughing

We're hoping to sell up later this year after further building work but I did wonder if we'd ever end up as residents ourselves!
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Clive55 · Joined: 08 Dec 2006 Posts: 1336

Well, I hope whoever takes over from you does as good a job, santa fe.

i work in the social care area. i manage a mental health project... well, untill June anyway!! I've tendered my resignation, because all the red tape drives me potty. The demands keep rising & resources shrinking.
Alot of good people are leaving the industry.
The government, and the EU, are part of the problem.

I'm gonna take some of the summer off, then i will get back into similar work in this industry. But really, the EU & all the red tape does not help

SantaFefan · Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 8:30 pm Post subject:

I doubt that they will Clive55... unfortunately, quality private homes such as ours with 30 - 50 bed spaces are being snapped up by large groups and the standard of care and attention suffers.

But you're absolutely right about the red tape.. this has been one of the nails in the coffin for us too.

The powers that be worry more about form filling and procedures than resident's welfare.. it's just ridiculous and such a waste of public money funding these departments.

We've just had to re-register (again) to yet another variation of last year's overseeing body!

last year it was called CSCI ( Commission for Social Care Inspection ), this year it's CQC ( Care Quality Commission ) and another mountain of paperwork, procedures, training statements, box ticking etc etc..

Funny thing is, when they compile their reports on a home's standards they never ask the Doctors or District Nurses... who would possibly be the best judges! Confused

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Funny thing is, when they compile their reports on a home's standards they never ask the Doctors or District Nurses... who would possibly be the best judges!
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Exactly right.
Another thing- they keep talking about the enviroment & saving paper then we have to produce mountains of paper as "evidence" Surprised