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PostPosted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 2:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RockitRon wrote:
Planet Rock (Alice Cooper) - no, I'm sorry I can't take The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway and the mention of Jonathon King over breakfast.


I'm with you on Jonathan King but anything from 1970s Genesis at breakfast is perfectly OK by me! Maybe "Cinema Show" or "Home By The Sea" tomorrow? Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 3:07 pm    Post subject: Smooth Radio Reply with quote

Colin - I don't mind 70s Genesis over breakfast too!

It's Radio Leeds playing Phil's 'Two Hearts' and the ineffectual 'Heatwave' on a weekend that grinds my gears! Wink
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 4:37 pm    Post subject: Re: Smooth Radio Reply with quote

aviddiva wrote:
It's Radio Leeds playing Phil's 'Two Hearts' and the ineffectual 'Heatwave' on a weekend that grinds my gears! Wink


I know what you mean. Phil's done some pretty good singing in his time (though not all of the time, by any means), but drumming is what he does best!
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 4:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not sure the remaining members of Led Zeppelin would endorse your comment about his drumming Colin
From what I remember they weren't terribly impressed
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 5:01 pm    Post subject: Re: Smooth Radio Reply with quote

aviddiva wrote:
....that grinds my gears!


Family Guy? Razz
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 5:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I'm not sure the remaining members of Led Zeppelin would endorse your comment about his drumming Colin
From what I remember they weren't terribly impressed


I've seen Collins drumming many times since the early 70s and I've always admired his skill. I also saw his "big band" once and the standard of musicianship from everyone - including Collins himself - was superb.

Of course, the prerequisite skill of a drummer is to keep perfect time - and he does much more than that. That said, Robert Plant and Jimmy Page can only compare a drummer to John Bonham - who was probably the best rock drummer of his time - but that shouldn't denigrate Collins' own capabilities in any way.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 5:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

no.... no.... no... Ginger Baker was and probably still is the best drummer Razz





( Ringo was average.. )
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And what about the great Cozy Powell
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 5:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Or Carl Palmer, for that matter.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 5:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

or.... Mitch Mitchell Confused no wait a minute, he was crap.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 5:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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or.... Mitch Mitchell Confused no wait a minute, he was crap.


Actually, that's unfair. It was pretty darned good on "Crosstown Traffic" (I was listening to it yesterday as it played very loudly in my son's car!) and his "machine gun" style complemented the other two pretty well.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 5:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok he wasn't crap for sure but I really don't think he was that good either.. I was watching a lot of Jimi's performances last night including the God awful Isle of Wight disaster.
Mitch's drumming was weak and... well, just all over the place.
I'm sure Jimi's most ardent fans will agree that the IoW show was pretty naff for whatever reason... there was virtually no communication between Jimi and Mitch. ( The terrible PA set up didn't help either ) no wonder Jimi said "maybe one day we'll get it back together" and threw his Strat down as he left the stage.
The studio tracks are fine but nothing like Ginger's or Bonham's standard.
and I say this as a true Hendrix fan..
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 6:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I remember being on the Isle of Wight one year (probably 1970) when the festival was on and wishing my parents would take me there, being an avid Top Of The Pops watcher and loving all the noisy, uptempo tracks that were featured (and I still do have a bias for that kind of music, but I do embrace some other music these days) My parents wouldn't hear of it! Though I did manage to hear some of what was being played, but I had no idea who it was that was playing! Here's what I missed, perhaps my parents were right, I was only about 10 at the time! http://www.ukrockfestivals.com/iow-menu.html In fact the whole site is a good rock festival archive, which I first came across while trawling the 6 music boards a few years ago.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 7:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Ron, where are you at? You forgot Radio 1. Smile


In the interest of balanced research I tried that this morning, then realised you were probably joking.

"Great talking - with music in between" the scrolling message says. Well, I endured it for 30 minutes and heard neither Rolling Eyes
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Of course I was joking! Was it Moyles? I hope not. Then again, if it was, you’ll be able to go any house insurance seminar and just sit there for days on end: people will ask you, how do you stand it? You’ll be able to say, I listened to the Moyles- I can stand anything! They’ll say, I know what you mean – The Radio 1 Breakfast Show guy….
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rachel wrote:
Ron, where are you at? You forgot Radio 1. Smile


Ron is thinking of radio stations which actually play music for the first part of the show Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 7:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know what all the fuss was about. I don't think he plays music at any point of his show - there was certainly none, apart from the theme to Terry and June between 7.20 and 7.50
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 7:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I don't know what all the fuss was about. I don't think he plays music at any point of his show - there was certainly none, apart from the theme to Terry and June between 7.20 and 7.50


I think he plays music just before the news. Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 7:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Meanwhile, back on Smooth, I notice that, although the presentation is national, the adverts are still local.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 8:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

RockitRon wrote:
Meanwhile, back on Smooth, I notice that, although the presentation is national, the adverts are still local.


That's what they call "local radio" these days. Thanks to the way network broadsting servers work these days it's easy to administer. The playout list simply contains a segment which effectively tells the server to "play all the local station ads here" and it does - to each and every one of them! That's why all the so-called "local" stations originate from one server in one building many miles from the locality served by the "local radio station". Even the station idents and other "local" indentifiers are served up in this manner.

That's why I hate what's happening to "local radio" - it isn't local at all. Heart is the worst offender, but other tinpot stations like Smooth are (or will be) using the same technology.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 11:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ColinB wrote:
RockitRon wrote:
Meanwhile, back on Smooth, I notice that, although the presentation is national, the adverts are still local.


That's what they call "local radio" these days. Thanks to the way network broadsting servers work these days it's easy to administer. The playout list simply contains a segment which effectively tells the server to "play all the local station ads here" and it does - to each and every one of them! That's why all the so-called "local" stations originate from one server in one building many miles from the locality served by the "local radio station". Even the station idents and other "local" indentifiers are served up in this manner.

That's why I hate what's happening to "local radio" - it isn't local at all. Heart is the worst offender, but other tinpot stations like Smooth are (or will be) using the same technology.


I think I remember reading somewhere that Smooth will generate as many as eight separate streams from Manchester; six local FM feeds, plus two for the national DAB service and the feed to Sky. I think the same piece said that separate news feeds would be part of the operation, too; presumably the same one or two readers recording the bulletins in the half hour before broadcast.

They're even networking community stations in some areas - it seems to me the complete antithesis of "community station"!

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 12:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, the news was local, read by someone who had a stop-start speech impediment. Actually it was local mixed in with the national and sport, so we had a minor-ish traffic accident in Spalding, followed by drinking during pregnancy followed by backroom strife at Leicestershire County Cricket Club, followed by Cameron's Cuts, followed by a fight in a Nottingham pub followed by the Red Sox buying up Liverpool FC.

Lynn doubles up as weather girl though.
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