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 Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 12:12 pm Post subject: Tony Blackburn replaces Dale on POTP |
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So, Dale Winton's leaving after 10 years and they're bringing in Tony Blackburn.
A step in the right direction? Will it mean more 'older' years than Dale plays, and thus seem even more out-of-step with everything else on a Saturday?
Here's the Media Guardian report:
| Quote: | Tony Blackburn is to take over from Dale Winton on BBC Radio 2's long-running Pick of the Pops, 43 years after he presented the first programme on BBC Radio 1.
Blackburn, who presents the weekend breakfast show on Smooth Radio, will join the Saturday afternoon retrospective chart rundown show on 6 November.
The DJ's career enjoyed a revival after he won ITV's I'm A Celebrity... Get Me Out of Here reality show in 2002.
Pick of the Pops was first broadcast on the BBC Light Programme in 1955 before switching to Radio 1 and then Radio 2. Previously fronted by Alan Freeman, Winton has presented the show since 2000.
Blackburn, who was the first DJ heard on Radio 1 when it began broadcasting in 1967, described Pick of the Pops as "one of radio's most iconic and famous shows".
Radio 2 head of programmes, Lewis Carnie, said: "I'm delighted to welcome Tony Blackburn to Radio 2 on a permanent basis. He is one of this country's legendary broadcasters and brings a wealth of knowledge of popular music spanning the years.
"I'd like to thank Dale for being such a tremendous host of Pick Of The Pops for the last decade, and I look forward to continuing our relationship with him on future Radio 2 projects."
Blackburn also presents a Sunday soul and Motown show on BBC London 94.9. Smooth Radio is owned by GMG Radio, part of Guardian Media Group, which also publishes MediaGuardian.co.uk. |
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| Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 12:18 pm Post subject: |
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It's a shame I like Dale on the radio,
| Quote: | | A step in the right direction? Will it mean more 'older' years than Dale plays, and thus seem even more out-of-step with everything else on a Saturday? |
it hasn't been that varied for a while I would agree but I don't think that Dale chose the years that'll be down to the producers.
I can't help thinking it's a step backwards, I don't like TB think he's a smarmy so and so (insert something bad)
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| Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 12:20 pm Post subject: |
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At last some good news!
Not surprised Dale is leaving the Saturday schedule, as shall we say it was looking a little bit 'samey'
Can't wait for the Feb 1981 chart, with 'Durrun Durrun' as a new entry!
It will be interesting to see what future projects Dale will do for R2. |
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I like Dale but can see Tony doing a great job.
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I've never liked Dale as a radio DJ, right from the start on Radio Trent.
The trouble with POTP is Alan Freeman. He was so good at it and no-one, definitely not Dale, and I'm afraid certainly not Tony Blackburn, will come close.
Anyway, the show is compiled and scripted by Phil Swern, is it not, so I don't suppose much will change, other than the voice.
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| Me either. Fluff was the show's owner to me and always will be. |
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| Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 12:45 pm Post subject: |
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| RockitRon wrote: | I've never liked Dale as a radio DJ, right from the start on Radio Trent.
The trouble with POTP is Alan Freeman. He was so good at it and no-one, definitely not Dale, and I'm afraid certainly not Tony Blackburn, will come close.
Anyway, the show is compiled and scripted by Phil Swern, is it not, so I don't suppose much will change, other than the voice. |
It was always Jimmy Saville when I remember it on Sunday lunchtimes
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It was always Jimmy Saville when I remember it on Sunday lunchtimes |
Jimmy Saville never did POTPs. It was always Fluff Freeman - on a Sunday evening when we were rushing our homework in readiness for school the next day! Saville's show was "Saville's Travels" and also the talk show for which the theme music was the "Yackety Yak" song. |
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I seem to recall a certain person advocating this change on the BBC Messageboard does that ring a bell with any of you?
I will be really sorry to see Dale go as I think with his style he got as close as it is possible to get to the original show hosted for years by the great Fluff
I do like Tony and I think he may be the best person to take over but I fear it will not be the same
As has been pointed out the years choosen will be within the control of the producer but arguing against myself I did note that the same week in May 1969 was choosen this year as last year and I know Dale says it's his favourite year so I think he might just have had some input into that
He even played virtually the same tracks
I really hope we see him back on Radio 2 before too long |
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Blimey! what great news!! Tony Blackburn on the station he belongs after all these years.. 
Pity to lose Dale as I've got to really like his style but hopefully he'll end up with a better slot ( as long as it's not Wrighty's that is... )
Dump Dermot or better still, kick Evans off on to TV (or anywhere) and give Dale the Breakfast Show.
I'm really pleased about this... 
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There was a time - in the late 60s (at the time when TB was doing the Radio One breakfast show) that it was deeply unfashionbale to like Blackburn - especially among those like me who worshipped the ground that John Peel and Bob Harris walked on - but over the years I've developed a respect for "our Tone".
I actually met him once at a radio do and he was the nicest bloke to chat to. He loves radio, loves his music (especially Soul) and seems to enjoy an uncomplicated life. He knows his way around a radio studio desk, as well, and is a very good technician in that respect (he's had enough practice, of course).
I do like Dale's style of presentation on POTP, but I'm happy with his replacement. Just think - it could be a whole lot worse. Mr. Shennan has proved that he's more than capable of destroying the long-standing and much-loved format. |
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I remember Tony telling us on the Pirate Radio Essex show, how he volunteered to climb up that tall radio mast to fix a problem... not many would have attempted it I'm sure.
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| Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 1:03 pm Post subject: |
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Poptabulous news mates!
Dale was alright, but the Tone's recent Bank Holiday stints have reminded me a proper DJ sounds like and the bloke is one of them without a shadow of a doubt.
Pop-a-doodle-do Radio 2 - keep this up and it really will be Fab fm. |
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| What we need now is the return of DLT on a Sunday morning with Snooker on the Radio- far better than Ken's Popmaster. |
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| Completely agree Nick and Saturday as well if possible |
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| SantaFefan wrote: | | I remember Tony telling us on the Pirate Radio Essex show, how he volunteered to climb up that tall radio mast to fix a problem... not many would have attempted it I'm sure. |
And in a storm, too! That was the goodship Mi Amigo which sadly sank in 1980. The mast was standing vertical out of the North Sea for quite some time before the waves devoured it. |
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| ColinB wrote: | | undiscovered wrote: |
It was always Jimmy Saville when I remember it on Sunday lunchtimes |
Jimmy Saville never did POTPs. It was always Fluff Freeman - on a Sunday evening when we were rushing our homework in readiness for school the next day! Saville's show was "Saville's Travels" and also the talk show for which the theme music was the "Yackety Yak" song. |
Colin are you 100% as I recall very early eighties listening to the Dur dur dur dur music along with a run down of certain years charts with him handing out pretend points ?
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| Nickbucks wrote: | | What we need now is the return of DLT on a Sunday morning with Snooker on the Radio- far better than Ken's Popmaster. |
no no no R2 will lose me completely if the hairy conflake comes back 
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| undiscovered wrote: | | ColinB wrote: | | undiscovered wrote: |
It was always Jimmy Saville when I remember it on Sunday lunchtimes |
Jimmy Saville never did POTPs. It was always Fluff Freeman - on a Sunday evening when we were rushing our homework in readiness for school the next day! Saville's show was "Saville's Travels" and also the talk show for which the theme music was the "Yackety Yak" song. |
Colin are you 100% as I recall very early eighties listening to the Dur dur dur dur music along with a run down of certain years charts with him handing out pretend points ? |
To my knowledge he never did the actual POTP - unless he was standing in for Fluff - but the original POTP definitely went out on Sunday evenings at 5.00pm, and was followed at 7.00pm by the haunting theme tune to "Sing Something Simple", which my Dad liked and I absolutely hated because it reminded me that it was school the day after. |
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| Quote: | | "Sing Something Simple" |
That theme had the same effect on me! Even on the odd occasion I may hear it now, I still feel physically sick!
The Jimmy Saville Sunday show was 'Jimmy Savilles Old Record Club' was it not? |
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| kengeo wrote: | | Quote: | | "Sing Something Simple" |
That theme had the same effect on me! Even on the odd occasion I may hear it now, I still feel physically sick! |
Funny but my wife (who grew up 200 miles from me) and several of my friends old enough to remember the show all say the same thing. That theme brings them out in a cold sweat! 
| kengeo wrote: | | The Jimmy Saville Sunday show was 'Jimmy Savilles Old Record Club' was it not? |
Yep - you got it. That's the one. |
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The Old Record Club did play old charts, whilst Pick Of The Pops in its day was the equivalent of 'The Top 40'.
In essence Pick Of The Pops is now what Jimmy's show was without the presentation of points! |
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| kengeo wrote: | | The Old Record Club did play old charts, whilst Pick Of The Pops in its day was the equivalent of 'The Top 40' |
Yes, I'd forgotten that the format of Fluff's orginal show was effectively the week's Chart Run-Down. I also remember that the new chart was revealed on Tuesday lunchtime on Radio One (I used to come home from school to listen to it as school was just over the back fence), and it's that upon which Thursday's TOTP on TV was based (TOTP being recorded at TVC on Wednesday evenings for many years). |
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| kengeo wrote: | The Old Record Club did play old charts, whilst Pick Of The Pops in its day was the equivalent of 'The Top 40'.
In essence Pick Of The Pops is now what Jimmy's show was without the presentation of points! |
Thanks Kengeo thought I was losing my marbles (again) couldn't find anything online
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| undiscovered wrote: | | no no no R2 will lose me completely if the hairy conflake comes back |
Me too. I think he's definitely had his day. For a while we used to listen to the breakfast show he did on Classic Gold (or whatever it was) out of the old Chiltern Radio studios in Dunstable and it was just excruciating listing to him presenting a show he clearly didn't like doing with a team who weren't up to it. Like Wrighty, he used FX to give it a "zoo" feel and it was awful.
We continued to listen to it on our bedside alarm-clock radio because neither of us could be bothered to find another station at the time.
Things must be even worse now - the radio gets switched off altogether after the 7.00am news bulletin on Radio 2!
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| Quote: | | I also remember that the new chart was revealed on Tuesday |
Of course, I'd forgotten that.
I can remember me and my mates huddled around a Benkson tranny (ever flat PP3 battery) in the playground listening to Paul Burnett. |
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| kengeo wrote: | | Quote: | | I also remember that the new chart was revealed on Tuesday |
Of course, I'd forgotten that.
I can remember me and my mates huddled around a Benkson tranny (ever flat PP3 battery) in the playground listening to Paul Burnett. |
Burnett was still at Luxy when I listened! I can't remember who did the show circa 1968-69. I have some old Radio Times editions from the time so I'll have a look when I get a mo. |
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| undiscovered wrote: | | Nickbucks wrote: | | What we need now is the return of DLT on a Sunday morning with Snooker on the Radio- far better than Ken's Popmaster. |
no no no R2 will lose me completely if the hairy conflake comes back |
Completely agree NO  no more old R1 on R2 . |
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| Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 3:37 pm Post subject: |
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| undiscovered wrote: |
It was always Jimmy Saville when I remember it on Sunday lunchtimes |
I too remember Jimmy Saville having a show called Saville's Travels but also one where he played the charts of years gone by. Maybe Fluff took over from him?
Fluff's Pick Of The Pops was on later and featured the current top 20 and later the 30/40 I believe.
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According to our friends at Radio Rewind, Alan Freeman presented Pick of the Pops, on the Light Programme, subsequently Radio 1 and being the current Top 20 then 40, from January 1962 until September 1972. Tom Browne then presented the show, renamed "Solid Gold Sixty", until March 1978. When Freeman went to Capital Radio in 1979 he revived Pick of the Pops, Take Two for his Saturday morning show.
Jimmy Saville started the oldies chart shows, with The Double Top Ten Show on Radio 1 Sunday afternoons from October 1973 until sometime in 1987 - it was renamed The Old Record Club from 1978.
Freeman returned to Radio 1 in January 1989 and presented Pick of the Pops in the oldies chart format until December 1992, and then on Radio 2 from April 1997 until April 2000, which is when Dale Winton took over.
(Saville's Travels, where he travelled up and down the country with a tape recorder chatting to people and playing records - an updated Down Your Way if you like - ran from June 1968 until the Double Top Ten Show in October 1973)
http://www.radiorewind.co.uk/index.html
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I wish it could have been Johnnie Walker taking it over.
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Not really. You don't want JW tied down to a strict format like that.
His best Sounds of the 70s are when he doesn't have to play most of the Top 20 stuff.
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Tony Blackburn used to host the chart show or something like that back in the 80s, on a Sunday I believe, and I think he did it really well too.. he just has a quirky way of announcing tracks that I find endearing.
He made the whole show very entertaining and wasn't worried about letting us know which tracks he liked! 
I remember him possibly taking offence to "Video Killed the Radio Star" as at the end he said something like " well, he wouldn't have got far without us would he?" followed by his usual laugh...
I have several of his chart shows on cassette somewhere...
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Welcome back Tony.....I remember him opening radio 1 from way way back ...
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I'll be sorry when Dale goes, he's knowledgeable and informative. I've yet to make my mind up about Blackburn. He tends to talk over songs he doesn't like and make snide comments.
However he's been a professional for 46 years so knows his stuff. |
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| Blondehedgehog wrote: | | Welcome back Tony.....I remember him opening radio 1 from way way back ... |
So do I
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| For me Dale has always had such a light touch with this show as never really to have put his stamp on it .....nice as he is .....I think Tony might liven it up a bit..... |
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Not Arf. I wonder where Dale is moving too?
So that's Tony on Smooth Breakfast at Weekends plus Radio 2 Saturday lunctimes and BBC London Sunday lunchtimes. KCFM (Hull) Friday mornings, and KMFM (Kent) Sunday afternoons. |
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I hope he'll get a show on 2 soon and also, let's have PotPs back on a Sunday where it belongs!
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Of course we always assumme that these days every broadcaster wants to be tied to a daily radio show all the year around. Many of today's presenters are doing what Chris Evans tried to do and got into trouble over...taking lots of holidays and/or working a four day week.
I think many like doing a series and having time off for other projects or doing a show that can be voice tracked like POTP...where probably quite a few can be recorded in one session.
I also made the following point on Digital Spy...
Once you record a certain amount of these programmes and you stick to the strict format of a chart from a certain year sooner or later you have heard it all before. Even because in the early days of the charts used records stayed in the charts for weeks/months and they did not move much.
It could be different if perhaps(but this changes the format/idea that is POTP)maybe you played more than the Top 20...possibly played other popular records that did not get into the chart and also played(especially when a 60's chart is featured)and songs were short more of them
And instead of sometimes rushing or ommitting tunes play them in full.
Again there has to be a quota of independently produced programmes but the BBC could have a presenter in the studio, a handful of cd's/tunes on the computer, what is Unique adding to it?
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