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A Bit of a Climbdown for the Bannister

 
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Clive55



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 12:39 am    Post subject: A Bit of a Climbdown for the Bannister Reply with quote

Mathew Bannister has gone from his glory (inglorious to radio lovers, but in his own eyes glory days) of destroying radio stations to occasionally sitting in for other presenters. What a comedown!
I recall when he & his sidekick went to BBC Radio London & closed down what had been an excelent local radio station.
He later went to radio One to wreak more havock with his axe wielding ways.
And then, having sacked everyone, he was such a wuss that he was unable to manage the staff he'd brought in
Chris Evans has expressed his amazement that Bannister did nothing to stop Evans' really messing up the Breakfast Show. Evans now recognises that talking rubbish for an hour on a music breakfast show was unacceptable & an insult to the listeners but Bannister saw nothing wrong with it

Bannister still holds that view. He said he admires CXhris Moyles for whingeing on for half an hour non stop on his Breakfast show about his pay comming in late

The guy is an absolute idiot & desewrves no respect. He should be kept as far away from radio as possible

I am glad he has been reduced to filling in for menial jobs now with no power to sack anyone which was his greatest joy
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 12:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mathew Bannister admitted that he had never listened to Bob Harris' radio 1 show before he sacked him. Bob Harris told Bannister "You havn't heard my show"
Asked by an interviewer some months later if Bob harris was right, Bannister replied "Why would i want to listen to a Bob Harris show?"
Which says it all about the man. He would rather listen to Chris Moyles winge on air for half an hour than hear a proper dj play music.

He should be let nowhere near music radio
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 8:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As I remember Matthew Bannister was one of the news readers on Radio 1, including the extended lunchtime Newsbeat spot before he went on his wrecking spree.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 9:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Will agree to disagree but its worth pointing out that most were giving the boot because Bannister wanted to make more changes, not because of falling ratings and a lot of the other longest serving presenters were given the boot because of falling ratings ..
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 10:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mark occomore wrote:
Will agree to disagree but its worth pointing out that most were giving the boot because Bannister wanted to make more changes, not because of falling ratings and a lot of the other longest serving presenters were given the boot because of falling ratings ..


That doesn't excuse the fact that Bannister was obviously a hopeless manager. Lots of former employees of BBC radio stations will testify to that.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 12:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mark occomore wrote:
Will agree to disagree but its worth pointing out that most were giving the boot because Bannister wanted to make more changes, not because of falling ratings and a lot of the other longest serving presenters were given the boot because of falling ratings ..


What does this actually say ? ...or is it just me ? Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 12:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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mark occomore wrote:
Will agree to disagree but its worth pointing out that most were giving the boot because Bannister wanted to make more changes, not because of falling ratings and a lot of the other longest serving presenters were given the boot because of falling ratings ..


That doesn't excuse the fact that Bannister was obviously a hopeless manager. Lots of former employees of BBC radio stations will testify to that.

Chris Evans says it is quite extraordinary that he was allowed to get away with so much nonsense at radio 1 without sopmeone taking him aside & giving him a good talking to
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 1:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I recently watched a recording of that Blood On The Carpet documentary about the Radio 1 changes, and was struck by what a complete pair of nasty tw*ts were Bannister and his sidekick Trevor Dann. They came across as obnoxious and Bannister was too cowardly to face up to the human side of some of his decisions, dodging talking to people.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 1:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Chris Evans says it is quite extraordinary that he was allowed to get away with so much nonsense at radio 1 without sopmeone taking him aside & giving him a good talking to

It's even more extraordinary that he was taken back by the BBC after the way he behaved at R1, then again at the, then Virgin Radio.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 5:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Clive55 wrote:


Chris Evans says it is quite extraordinary that he was allowed to get away with so much nonsense at radio 1 without sopmeone taking him aside & giving him a good talking to




And he is still doing the same on radio 2
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 6:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

At the end of the day - it's all in the past what happened under Matthew Bannister watch. He was doing what he thought was the best. Although I do disagree with some of his actions. One was sacking Adrian Juste before he even got to the studios. Thats a disgrace. If you look back, he did start to rock the radio industry.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lord Evan Elpuss wrote:
Clive55 wrote:
Chris Evans says it is quite extraordinary that he was allowed to get away with so much nonsense at radio 1 without sopmeone taking him aside & giving him a good talking to

It's even more extraordinary that he was taken back by the BBC after the way he behaved at R1, then again at the, then Virgin Radio.

I think Evans has changed. Radio 2 were cautious. They tried him out on the saturday afternoon show. He did OK there so they put him on Drivetime where he did well. They didn't plonk him straight back into Breakfast show.
I think he has behaved responsibly since being back at radio 2 tho not everyone likes his style.
I don't listen to much of his show but he is a quite different proposition to how he was back then
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 7:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Clive55 wrote:
I don't listen to much of his show but he is a quite different proposition to how he was back then


He's just as irritating, though.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 10:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ColinB wrote:
Clive55 wrote:
I don't listen to much of his show but he is a quite different proposition to how he was back then


He's just as irritating, though.

I don't know. I listened to the last half hour of his brekky show this morning. Michael Buble was guest. Very pleasant
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 10:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Triumph Herald wrote:
I recently watched a recording of that Blood On The Carpet documentary about the Radio 1 changes, and was struck by what a complete pair of nasty tw*ts were Bannister and his sidekick Trevor Dann. They came across as obnoxious and Bannister was too cowardly to face up to the human side of some of his decisions, dodging talking to people.

I totally agree. I don't know who came off worse. Bammister or Dann
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 10:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I must be alone on this.
I'm not excusing the fact that people were made to lose their jobs but as a radio listener in my early 20's when Bannister and Dann went into R1 it was like a breath of fresh air, losing the DLT, Simon Bates, etc etc shows changing to more modern music was long over due.

The change in R1 was always idealistic not deriven by ratings I beileve on Blood on the Carpet Danny Baker comments on the fact the show lost millions between DLT going and him starting.

R1 is for youngsters, I don't listen to it now but I am not part it's target audience now. I am happy to let the kiddiwinks have something for themselves.

However I am not defending his wanting to stay with SW, or bringing in CE.
John Peel, Andy Kershaw both had weekend shows, Mark and Lard shows all started under bannister.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 11:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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losing the DLT, Simon Bates, etc etc shows changing to more modern music was long over due


I don't disagree, it needed to happen, but if not sure if they went about it in the right way.

Instead of concentrating the changes on just Radio 1, the whole BBC radio network should of been involved, and a progression set up for the presenters who were sacked to find work on other BBC networks, a wealth of talent and knowledge of the business were lost. Its called planning!

Personally, (and I'm sure many others of a certain age) were lost to BBC radio post Bannister, as I could no longer listen to the presenters I had grown up listening to, and this was borne out in the listening figures at the time, and no alternative was offered.

Finally at the back end of the 90's Jim Moir had begun to turn Radio 2 into a station that I wanted to listen to, and I was back in the fold.

Somehow though I can't help feeling that history is beginning to repeat itself.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 11:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Instead of concentrating the changes on just Radio 1, the whole BBC radio network should of been involved, and a progression set up for the presenters who were sacked to find work on other BBC networks, a wealth of talent and knowledge of the business were lost. Its called planning!


I agree with this, R2 should have changed at the same time rather than take a few years to catch the R1 listeners/ shows
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 11:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yea but a lot of those new shows are the reason I stopped listening to Radio 1 in the first place - Evans, Ball etc, and now I find them on Radio 2. A bit too soon if you ask me!
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 12:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Much as I disliked Bannisters role as Axeman, I have been listening to his show sitting in for Vine & been impressed. He is a pretty good presenter & does not have the irritating sneering smugness of Jeremy Vine
I would prefer seeing Bannister in this job than Vine
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 12:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kengeo wrote:
Yea but a lot of those new shows are the reason I stopped listening to Radio 1 in the first place - Evans, Ball etc, and now I find them on Radio 2. A bit too soon if you ask me!


I'm not sure anytime would be good?

I'm not a CE or ZB fan at all but they were on R1 in the 90' that was 20 years ago so ZB is very late 30's and CE is in his 40's doesn't that make them R2 age group ?
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ZB is very late 30's and CE is in his 40's


Good point, but personally I tag them as being post Bannister R1 and associate them with the lad/ladette culture of the 90's, which I never got.

When was the last time Mike Read, Simon Bates or DLT were pictured stumbling out of a pub at four in the morning?? Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 12:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When Dlt etc were around no one cared what they did outside work, personally I still don't care but the press seem to think that reports of their social life is news. I'm sure they have had their moments though
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 6:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know Matthew did ruin a lot of radio careers along the way and some have moved onto pastures new. He's a good stand in for Jeremy Vine. Glad he keeps presenting on Radio 2. Does he still do a bit for the BBC World Service and Radio 4 still?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 7:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We are talking about the man who ruined lots of promising radio careers and the enjoyment of millions of former Radio 1 listeners and seemingly took quite a lot of pleasure in doing so
This man should not be let loose on any BBC network no matter how good a presenter he may be
He should be given a taste of his own medicine immediately
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 10:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

undiscovered wrote:
I must be alone on this.
I'm not excusing the fact that people were made to lose their jobs but as a radio listener in my early 20's when Bannister and Dann went into R1 it was like a breath of fresh air, losing the DLT, Simon Bates, etc etc shows changing to more modern music was long over due.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vXd9x7jhOA
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 8:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Soulsister wrote:
undiscovered wrote:
I must be alone on this.
I'm not excusing the fact that people were made to lose their jobs but as a radio listener in my early 20's when Bannister and Dann went into R1 it was like a breath of fresh air, losing the DLT, Simon Bates, etc etc shows changing to more modern music was long over due.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vXd9x7jhOA


Yep that's it for me
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