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PostPosted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 9:07 am    Post subject: Does Ken Bruce Hold Grudges? Reply with quote

The excelent Sara Kennedy- late of this parish-in 1999 reffered to Ken Bruce as am "old fool". 9 Years later he "retailiated" by saying that Fleetwood Mac had written their song "Sara" about Kennedy in 1929. Which is rather silly & pointless. Was he nine years in thinking about it?
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 9:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I very much doubt it. Are you trying to stir up more trouble for Ken?

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 9:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Let's face it- it's hardly an exchange of witty repartee is it? Rolling Eyes
Kennedy seemed, at some point or other in her BBC career, to have a problem with almost everybody- so her remark would not be unusual.

In Ken's case it was probably for want of something to say during the link.

Not every comment spoken on radio is a carefully-worded and directed jibe... sometimes you just say the first thing that pops into your head.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 10:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pretty sure Ken is one of the few presenters to have stuck up for Sarah over the years, both on air and in interviews. This is simply a bit of teasing.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 10:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Clive, why are you bringing up something from 2008 now?
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 10:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Let's face it- it's hardly an exchange of witty repartee is it? Rolling Eyes
Kennedy seemed, at some point or other in her BBC career, to have a problem with almost everybody- so her remark would not be unusual.

In Ken's case it was probably for want of something to say during the link.

Not every comment spoken on radio is a carefully-worded and directed jibe... sometimes you just say the first thing that pops into your head.

I think you are right. I picked this up from Wikepedia, not the most reliable of sources.
I agree both comments were probably both said in jest.
Blame Wickepedia!!
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 10:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Clive, why are you bringing up something from 2008 now?

I just saw it on Wikepedia & thought Gor Blimey! & posted it without considering it further! Surprised
Apologies
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 11:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Clive55 wrote:
MadeinSurrey wrote:
Clive, why are you bringing up something from 2008 now?

I just saw it on Wikepedia & thought Gor Blimey! & posted it without considering it further! Surprised
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And it's got nothing to do with your campaign to have Zoe Ball permanently assigned to Ken's slot? Wink
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 12:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ken was the only presenter to have the grace to mention Sarah and pay tribute to her when she left wasn't he?
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 12:45 pm    Post subject: Does Ken Bruce Hold Grudges? Reply with quote

I thought of Morrissey's 'The More You Ignore Me, The Closer I Get' when I saw the heading!

Especially the line 'Beware, I hold more grudges/Than lonely High Court judges...'
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 12:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sarah has already said in interviews that Ken is "a mate" - I don't think she meant it in the breeding sense! "Old fool" is, in any case, a term of endearment in Bunty-speak.

I'm going to hear Sarah at her "Evening with..." in Leicester tonight. It will be interesting to hear what she has to say!

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 12:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hope you'll let us know!
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 1:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Minx wrote:
Clive55 wrote:
MadeinSurrey wrote:
Clive, why are you bringing up something from 2008 now?

I just saw it on Wikepedia & thought Gor Blimey! & posted it without considering it further! Surprised
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And it's got nothing to do with your campaign to have Zoe Ball permanently assigned to Ken's slot? Wink

I wouldn't call it a campaign.
In fact I'm feeling more well disposed towards Ken now that I note he was one of the few to pay tribute to Ms Kennedy when she left the BBC
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 1:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Sarah has already said in interviews that Ken is "a mate" - I don't think she meant it in the breeding sense! "Old fool" is, in any case, a term of endearment in Bunty-speak.

I'm going to hear Sarah at her "Evening with..." in Leicester tonight. It will be interesting to hear what she has to say!

Rob

I hope not! Might cause problems with Mrs Bruce & with sara's "Dearly Beloved".
I'd love to see a report of the Evening with sara Kennedy. Should be interesting! Cool Enjoy
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 1:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Ken was the only presenter to have the grace to mention Sarah and pay tribute to her when she left wasn't he?


JV said she would be missed right after the news when it was first announced and I think he played Sara at the end of the show. That could have been a coincidence but a nice thought if it had been planned.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 2:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think he's really upsetting everyone at the BBC. He should open the mic at 9.30am on Monday and apologise for all his remarks over the years Laughing Thats a joke what I said. I think everyone has contributed to Sarah leaving the BBC.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 2:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How is Ken upsetting everyone at the BBC Mark? Unless you spill the beans it's quite ludicrous to say something like that.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 2:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This whole thread is ludicrous. Rolling Eyes Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 2:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Helen May wrote:
How is Ken upsetting everyone at the BBC Mark? Unless you spill the beans it's quite ludicrous to say something like that.

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Read it. I was being sarcastic. It was joke.
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I actually know the reason why she did leave. A collegue who works with me, is a friend of Norman Cook who's married to Zoe Ball and they spoke about it. He told me a bit of the reason to why she left, but I will not say.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 2:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RockitRon wrote:
This whole thread is ludicrous. Rolling Eyes Evil or Very Mad


Are you saying that because you're an Old Fool? Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 2:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nod wrote:
mark occomore wrote:
I actually know the reason why she did leave. A collegue who works with me, is a friend of Norman Cook who's married to Zoe Ball and they spoke about it. He told me a bit of the reason to why she left, but I will not say.


Go on please tell us Very Happy


Yeah, I always thought Norm and Zo were well tight with SK innit Cool .....so they must know all the darkest secrets Rolling Eyes
If you know the truth tell us- otherwise we will come to the conclusion that the reason is scurrilous rumour or complete nonsense.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 2:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Perhaps Sara is planning to be a rival Club DJ ...
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 3:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It wasn't what the papers were printing. It was a personal issue.
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PJ in Kent wrote:
nod wrote:
mark occomore wrote:
I actually know the reason why she did leave. A collegue who works with me, is a friend of Norman Cook who's married to Zoe Ball and they spoke about it. He told me a bit of the reason to why she left, but I will not say.


Go on please tell us Very Happy


Yeah, I always thought Norm and Zo were well tight with SK innit Cool .....so they must know all the darkest secrets Rolling Eyes
If you know the truth tell us- otherwise we will come to the conclusion that the reason is scurrilous rumour or complete nonsense.


I should think that most people working in Western House know the truth. The water-cooler gossip has been rife in the last few months, given the level of discontent among staff.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 5:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We need a water cooler leak... Razz
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 30, 2010 9:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sarah Kennedy is 60 years old. I could quite understand if she didn't want to continue getting up before the crack of dawn. It is sad that the Beeb found it necessary to start the Breakfast show earlier pushing Sarah k's start time even earlier. That was very likely the last straw.
I would love to hear Sarah Kennedy given a slot say 8AM Saturday morning or 9AM Sunday morning.
I think it is time Sunday Love songs was given a rest. Maybe sounds of the sixtees too?
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I'm with you partly on this Clive-certainly axing/resting Sounds of the 60's and Sunday Love Songs permanently but certainly NOT on bringing back Sarah Kennedy.

Personally I would like to see Tony Blackburn given a weekend breakfast show-hopefully he could bring Arnold with him.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 30, 2010 10:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mark Mayhew wrote:
I'm with you partly on this Clive-certainly axing/resting Sounds of the 60's and Sunday Love Songs permanently but certainly NOT on bringing back Sarah Kennedy.

Personally I would like to see Tony Blackburn given a weekend breakfast show-hopefully he could bring Arnold with him.


Arnold never appeared on Smooth, so why would it appear on Radio 2? Unless your talking about Richard Arnold Laughing I can't see him hosting weekend breakfast with POTPs airing on a Saturday too.
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I'm strongly against the idea of losing SOTS in favour of yet another bog standard boring breakfast show
The present schedule is what sets Radio 2 apart from its commercial competitors and the last thing we need is for it to head in the direction of further blandness which is what seems to be happening already with other shows on the network
I like Tony Blackburn but he should be hosting the regular daily breakfast show in my opinion- with or without Arnold
As I said in a previous post I thought Arnold was now retired and living in Barking Smile
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Lots of people are of the view that SOTS is perfectly OK where it is. Shennan and his predecessors have screwed up enough of R2 in the last few years so it's best he just leaves this "jewel in R2's rather tarnished crown".

We now have that berk Evans on for 15 hours of weekday breakfasts so let's at least have some respite at weekends.
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ColinB wrote:
PJ in Kent wrote:
nod wrote:
mark occomore wrote:
I actually know the reason why she did leave. A collegue who works with me, is a friend of Norman Cook who's married to Zoe Ball and they spoke about it. He told me a bit of the reason to why she left, but I will not say.


Go on please tell us Very Happy


Yeah, I always thought Norm and Zo were well tight with SK innit Cool .....so they must know all the darkest secrets Rolling Eyes
If you know the truth tell us- otherwise we will come to the conclusion that the reason is scurrilous rumour or complete nonsense.


I should think that most people working in Western House know the truth. The water-cooler gossip has been rife in the last few months, given the level of discontent among staff.


Unfortunately, however, we don't all have jobs in Western House and are therefore party to the gossip. Rolling Eyes Some of us have to work for a living....
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Sound of the 60's was an alternative to what other radio stations do / did. I say "did", because there are lots like Magic, Capital and Heart call them weekend breakfast, but they only play back to back music. Breakfast includes Music, Traffic, News, Paper reviews etc. I can't see this will happen yet at 2, but I won't hold my breath.
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Unfortunately, however, we don't all have jobs in Western House and are therefore party to the gossip. Rolling Eyes Some of us have to work for a living....


I know exactly what you mean. I don't work in WH either and, being self-employed, I find that I also have to work for a living. However, I do feel for some of those who do work at the Beeb these days - especially the technical and production staff - many of whom are forced to work on short-term contracts and who are being increasingly managed by idiots.

Pity really, but that's life I guess.
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Unfortunately, however, we don't all have jobs in Western House and are therefore party to the gossip. Rolling Eyes Some of us have to work for a living....


I know exactly what you mean. I don't work in WH either and, being self-employed, I find that I also have to work for a living. However, I do feel for some of those who do work at the Beeb these days - especially the technical and production staff - many of whom are forced to work on short-term contracts and who are being increasingly managed by idiots.

Pity really, but that's life I guess.


I've been "managed" by idiots for years, Colin. I think nowadays it seem to be the rule rather than the exception Crying or Very sad Mad
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I've been "managed" by idiots for years, Colin. I think nowadays it seem to be the rule rather than the exception Crying or Very sad Mad


Certainly is. Of course, for self-employed people (yourself included, I believe?) there's only one person to blame when everything goes SNAFU!!!Smile
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I've been "managed" by idiots for years, Colin. I think nowadays it seem to be the rule rather than the exception Crying or Very sad Mad


Certainly is. Of course, for self-employed people (yourself included, I believe?) there's only one person to blame when everything goes SNAFU!!!Smile


Nope, I'm employed- hence it's always my fault although it never actually is, if you get my drift Mad
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Nope, I'm employed- hence it's always my fault although it never actually is, if you get my drift Mad


And quite right too! Smile
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Nope, I'm employed- hence it's always my fault although it never actually is, if you get my drift Mad


And quite right too! Smile


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Well I'm an employer and I have some employees who always say it was never their fault too.. when I know for a fact - it was!
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