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PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 3:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Times quoted a student as stating that the police had taken off the number plates of the vehicle & a police officer (joked) that the van was not insured
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 3:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The Times quoted a student as stating that the police had taken off the number plates of the vehicle & a police officer (joked) that the van was not insured


During the miners' strike of 1984 I edited some video shot for, and intended for use by, a protest group (and not the broadcasting networks) and we noticed from the footage that none of the drafted-in police officers had their warrant numbers displayed on their epaulets as is required by law. When questioned about this, one police officer turned around and told his questioner to "f*** off or get nicked". He intentionally did so off-camera, unfortunately (media-savvy, you see).

From what I could tell nobody was doing anything unlawful; there was no violence and there appeared to be a textbook peaceful demonstration. The pent-up aggression in members of Her Majesty's Police Force was palpable, however. It looked liked they were getting themselves geared up for a fight - but only when the press photographers and news cameramen were ready to record it.

Have things changed much, I wonder?
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 3:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Have things changed much, I wonder?


G20 Protests

Officer who hit the girl wasn't wearing his warrant numbers, that's all he was reprimanded for in the end
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 3:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Things certainly haven't changed!
The policeman who knocked over the Big Issue seller, who later died, at a demo last year had conveniently forgotten to wear his number/ID badge!
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 3:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Things certainly haven't changed!
The policeman who knocked over the Big Issue seller, who later died, at a demo last year had conveniently forgotten to wear his number/ID badge!


Didn't he accidently bounce into his fist ?
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 4:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Clive55 wrote:
The Times quoted a student as stating that the police had taken off the number plates of the vehicle & a police officer (joked) that the van was not insured


During the miners' strike of 1984 I edited some video shot for, and intended for use by, a protest group (and not the broadcasting networks) and we noticed from the footage that none of the drafted-in police officers had their warrant numbers displayed on their epaulets as is required by law. When questioned about this, one police officer turned around and told his questioner to "f*** off or get nicked". He intentionally did so off-camera, unfortunately (media-savvy, you see).

From what I could tell nobody was doing anything unlawful; there was no violence and there appeared to be a textbook peaceful demonstration. The pent-up aggression in members of Her Majesty's Police Force was palpable, however. It looked liked they were getting themselves geared up for a fight - but only when the press photographers and news cameramen were ready to record it.

Have things changed much, I wonder?


Well I happen to know that some of the drafted-in Police Officers used in the Miners Strike weren't Police Officers at all- they looked like Police Officers- dressed like Police Officers but Police Officers they were not. Perhaps that's why they didn't have a number.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 4:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

He might have hit the copper's knee with his testicles!
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 6:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldn't be surprised the police could move the protesters towards Hyde Park in London to keep them away from the city, if the planned protests happen again.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 7:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There was also the case of the police officer who threw a semi-conscious woman head first onto the floor of a police station & stomped on her head. This was witnessed by several officers. One of them, a female officer, reported the incident. It was all captured on the Video things in the station
The police officer was found guilty & sentenced to six months inside for GBH & other offences. Now a judge has overturned the verdict, claiming "insuficient evidence"
So police witnesses & CTV footage still not enough to convict a police officer>
Another police officer has just been convicted for a string of rapes. No doubt some judge will over turn that conviction, too
I am NOT anti police
There are many honest and very hardworking officers doing their best to protect the public day in, day out
But there are criminals & thugs in the police force & they must be rooted out
They give decent, honest officers a bad name & make it even harder for the honest, conscientious officers to do their job protecting the public
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 7:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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He might have hit the copper's knee with his testicles!
Laughing Laughing No doubt charged with assault!
It has been known for an officer to punch a civillian & then say "ooh, look! He injured my hand!" & the victim is charged with assault! Surprised
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 7:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I couldn't agree more Clive

There has been a huge deterioration in police standards of behaviour in the last twenty five years

Most police personnel do a great job in very difficult circumstances but I am hearing on Channel 4 News tonight that both the Chief Constable and Deputy Chief Constable of North Yorkshire Police are to appear before a disciplinary committee for allegedly having rigged job applications so they could employ members of their own families whilst blocking others from even being able to get through on phone lines

Obviously one should not pre judge the outcome of the hearing but the fact it is happening at all is of serious concern

It wasn't like that in the days of Z Cars or Heartbeat Sad
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 10:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've seen a YT clip from last weeks protests where a medic officer went kicking in with both feet, then picked up somebody off the floor and threw them back in without checking that they were ok. A medic officer I repeat.

I can understand that adrenaline takes over in awkward situations like this, but that is what they are trained for.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yet again protesting in orderly manner is what they should be doing. Activists are causing mayhem on the streets of London. These bloody idiots should be locked up for good. Policing costs you and me in our taxes.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 8:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Protesters have damaged Prince Charles and Camilla car whilst they were on the way through London on the way to a Royal Variety Perfomance. A concern for security.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 8:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mark occomore wrote:
Yet again protesting in orderly manner is what they should be doing.


Er, that's exactly what most of "them" were doing.

mark occomore wrote:
Activists are causing mayhem on the streets of London. These bloody idiots should be locked up for good. Policing costs you and me in our taxes.


So does irresponsible government. If you prefer to be governed by individuals who are collectively responsible for lies and deceit then that's your choice, but it ain't mine.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 8:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't really care what you or anyone says. This is disgraceful, and yet again people like yourselves are backing these idiots on the streets. I'm not interested what you or anyone else thinks. You can't blame the Government for criminal damage.

This picture of Prince Charles and Camilla Car

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I don't really care what you or anyone says. This is disgraceful, and yet again people like yourselves are backing these idiots on the streets. I'm not interested what you or anyone else thinks. You can't blame the Government for criminal damage.


Don't be silly, Mark. I'm not backing "these idiots on the streets" (whoever they are) but nor am condemning their motives. Nor am I blaming government for criminal damage in the physical sense but they're certainly guilty of damaging our society in every other sense, so let's keep this stuff in context. We have a party in government (the LibDems) who have lied to and deceived their electorate and we have a main party (the Tories) who have an ideological agenda to complete the work that Thatcher couldn't finish.

That's a good prompt for rebellion - and rebellion is what's needed (in my opinion). I don't condone those who are smashing things up - but sure as hell it's raising the debate.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 8:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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mark occomore wrote:
I don't really care what you or anyone says. This is disgraceful, and yet again people like yourselves are backing these idiots on the streets. I'm not interested what you or anyone else thinks. You can't blame the Government for criminal damage.


Don't be silly, Mark. I'm not backing "these idiots on the streets" (whoever they are) but nor am condemning their motives. Nor am I blaming government for criminal damage in the physical sense but they're certainly guilty of damaging our society in every other sense, so let's keep this stuff in context. We have a party in government (the LibDems) who have lied to and deceived their electorate and we have a main party (the Tories) who have an ideological agenda to complete the work that Thatcher couldn't finish.

That's a good prompt for rebellion - and rebellion is what's needed (in my opinion). I don't condone those who are smashing things up - but sure as hell it's raising the debate.


I'am pleased your not backing them.
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mark occomore wrote:

I'am pleased your not backing them.


I back the protesters. I just don't back the joy-riders.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 9:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry Colin I have to take issue with your suggestion that this is somehow finishing off what Margaret Thatcher failed to finish

She would not have been so stupid as to even attempt what is being done now

Whatever you might have thought of her at the time please don't compare her with what we have now
As a Tory voter even I don't agree with these proposals and some Tory MP's did have the courage to vote against the bill which I firmly applaud

Believe me there is a lot of disquiet amongst the rank and file in the Tory party and eventually that will count
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 9:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry Colin I have to take issue with your suggestion that this is somehow finishing off what Margaret Thatcher failed to finish

She would not have been so stupid as to even attempt what is being done now

Whatever you might have thought of her at the time please don't compare her with what we have now
As a Tory voter even I don't agree with these proposals and some Tory MP's did have the courage to vote against the bill which I firmly applaud

Believe me there is a lot of disquiet amongst the rank and file in the Tory party and eventually that will count
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 9:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You know what they say about people who repeat themselves! Cool You know what they say about people who repeat themselves! Cool

There are obvious ideological links between Thatcherism and the new Toryism - most notably that Cameron's lot want to massively reduce the State and push social service provision out to the voluntary sector and also to philanthropy.
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Yes Colin I hear what you're saying and I can agree with some of what you say but the point I am trying to make is that the present Coalition Government is going way beyond what Margaret Thatcher did in a number of areas as well as simply student tuition fees and its a big mistake which an intelligent politician like Mrs Thatcher just would not have made

Its ironic that she had a massive majority but held back from many measures which are being put into practice now whereas the present Tory party has no overall majority but still has been able to push them through

It says a great deal about the morals of the Lib Dems and I completely agree with you that they are going to be wiped out at the next election
I have some sadness about that in a way because my dad was a Liberal Councillor in the 60's and would be turning in his grave at how the party is behaving now had he not been cremated
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 9:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What a disrespectful P**** who did this. Then some are seen writing on Statue of Winston Churchill. This is very upsetting. These kids havn't got a clue what our boys and girls are fighting for. This isn't real fighting on the streets. Shameful and disgusting.



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1337315/TUITION-FEES-VOTE-PROTEST-Thugs-deface-Cenotaph-urinate-Churchill.html
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mark occomore wrote:
What a disrespectful P**** who did this. Then some are seen writing on Statue of Winston Churchill. This is very upsetting.


Just think - it wouldn't have happened at all if the electorate hadn't been lied to and deceived in the run-up to the May elections.

mark occomore wrote:
These kids havn't got a clue what our boys and girls are fighting for.


Eh? What kids? What boys and girls? You've lost me now.....

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It sickened me to the stomach to see our kids being charged by police on horseback charging our kids. At that point mid afternoon there had been no problem apart from the police had got themselves into a position of being outflancked by their own mistakes.

Mark the idiots who defaced Churchills statue etc are just that. Idiots.

Having said that more violence had been taking part inside the house of commons, a coalition founded on necessity, but neither party stood on a platform to decrease the higher education budget by 80% and increase tuition fees by 300%. There was no mandate to do this it.

Why are we the second lowest spener on education by capita in europe. Without investment in the future of the country we will be dead in the water.

What on earth were the Met/ security services doing allowing the royal car to drive close to where the trouble was. At least they now know the mood of the country
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What on earth were the Met/ security services doing allowing the royal car to drive close to where the trouble was. At least they now know the mood of the country


According to a participant who was interviewed on one of the news channels last night, the Police decided to stop the protesters from persuing an agreed route and that was the reason they dispersed up side streets etc. This directly resulted in their coming into contact with Prince Charles and his missus. One has to ask why the Met took this decision knowing what the likely outcome would be?

Still, it's all good front-page fodder for the Daily Mail and that's what they want - as do the paper's blue-rinse-brigade readers.

What I'd like to know is what connection do some of the more violent demonstrators have with the establishment? (If you get my drift).
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Why is it "the mood of the country"?
In my world the general feeling is that students are in the wrong and simply are not listening to the facts and figures... times are tough for all so they should pay their way too. From what I understand, the pay back scheme seems perfectly reasonable.
Funny how they spout off that the rich should fund their education and yet the proposals require that once they're "rich", they should do just that! but suddenly it's unacceptable because the boot is on the other foot..

I wasn't shocked to see the Police charge at all.. but I was genuinely shocked and angered to see a Royal Car attacked by brainless, disrespectful morons.. and I was livid to see the defaced statue of Sir Winston Churchill.. I'd lock the bastards up and lose the key for that.

We must be the laughing stock of the world right now, a Royal car attacked in London! can you imagine the US response to something like this? their Police would have pepper sprayed the culprits without a second thought.
Broken Britain is another notch up the ladder imo... Disgraceful behaviour and shouldn't go unpunished.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 12:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ColinB wrote:

What I'd like to know is what connection do some of the more violent demonstrators have with the establishment? (If you get my drift).


Colin I don't know what you mean.

Yes the Mail and their brainwashed readers will be feeding off this for ages, just wait for the other cuts to kick in. Then we'll see some more protesters.

Daily Mail wrote:
'They were lucky not to be shot': Police chief says armed officers showed 'enormous restraint' as mob attacked Charles and Camilla


That's it shoot the kids that would have sorted it. They would have found me out on the street today if they had
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It was a very poor show yesterday from the students. They lied to the Police about where they were going; they came armed with all sorts of improvised weapons on a premeditated trail of destruction and violence. From what I could gather from the few students interviewed who had a coherent argument - theyre not angry about the fees going up theyre angry about being lied to by the Lib Dems but hey, join the club- the Lib Dems have lied to everyone since their party began- the only difference is, they are now in Government. I think the Police were very restrained yesterday- Id have broken out the tear gas, water canon and rubber bullets. Its simply not acceptable to allow this kind of behaviour on our streets. The students who attacked the Royal Car were lucky to escape with their lives- I would have shot them.
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I think the Police were very restrained yesterday- Id have broken out the tear gas, water canon and rubber bullets. Its simply not acceptable to allow this kind of behaviour on our streets. The students who attacked the Royal Car were lucky to escape with their lives- I would have shot them.


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I think the Police were very restrained yesterday- Id have broken out the tear gas, water canon and rubber bullets. Its simply not acceptable to allow this kind of behaviour on our streets. The students who attacked the Royal Car were lucky to escape with their lives- I would have shot them.


You do wonder what those protection guys, presumably armed, who drive behind actually do ?
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The students who attacked the Royal Car were lucky to escape with their lives- I would have shot them.


After which The Revolution would definitely have started!
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I wouldn't be surprised if Vince Cable hired rent a mob responseble for the violence to take the heat off himself.
Vince Cable is ludicrous. A week ago he defended himself by saying he might not back his own proposals. In the even he did.
Vince Cable has attacked Labours' new proposals of a Graduate Tax as "absurd & unworkable" yet this was the Lib Dem policy till June.
I think Ed should reconsider- adopting Lib Dem policies can only lead to disaster. After all, those polocies were dreamed up by a faulty cable
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I wouldn't be surprised if Vince Cable hired rent a mob responseble for the violence to take the heat off himself.
Vince Cable is ludicrous. A week ago he defended himself by saying he might not back his own proposals. In the even he did.
Vince Cable has attacked Labours' new proposals of a Graduate Tax as "absurd & unworkable" yet this was the Lib Dem policy till June.
I think Ed should reconsider- adopting Lib Dem policies can only lead to disaster. After all, those polocies were dreamed up by a faulty cable


His position would have been untennable rather than laughable if he had voted against it. He is a government minister, he is the minister responsible he had to vote for it. He was just trying to cover his bases.
I thought he was ok before the election out of the 3 chancellors he seemed to know what he was talking about, he seemed like a man of principle who wasn't afraid of agreeing with an opponent policy if it was right.
BUT remember this, he was in charge of financial policy in the LD's it was his idea to say that there would be no rise in tuition fees, he and Osbourne had both access to the UK's finances why are things so different now that they can't stay with what their election platform was? IN fact according to the news they put out we are doing better than expected so why should we believe that it was such a mess ?
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 2:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Luckly that none of the royal protection police got out and shot someone. I'm sure they are restrained. I hope this may wake up Prince Charles and the Royals what this society is turning into under the current government. It be an Interesting weekly meeting between the Queen and Cameron.
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Luckly that none of the royal protection police got out and shot someone. I'm sure they are restrained.


Er, yes Mark. I'm sure they are.
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Yet again protesting in orderly manner is what they should be doing. Activists are causing mayhem on the streets of London. These bloody idiots should be locked up for good. Policing costs you and me in our taxes.


I think it's outrageous that the students have been vilified by the media.
Most of the "students" that caused the trouble are most likely NOT students at all. They're simply idiots that have come along to trash the protest. You clearly can't condone their actions.

I reckon the "students" interviewed by the media are - again - not students. The media haven't been exactly unbiased in their reporting.

I would like to point out that the vast majority of those AFFECTED by this change are NOT in favour. I wonder if the country as a whole is in favour with this measure... I suspect not.

I'm very disappointed in the government. The Lib Dems have shown their true colours and I for one can't wait for the next election. They will be rightfully punished at the polls.

I've yet to see question time, but I look forward to hearing what Charles Kennedy had to say, I can only imagine how scathing his attack on his deceitful colleagues will be! At least a few of them had the decency to do what is right and honour their SIGNED pledge.

It's all very well for them to say "we didn't win outright so concession had to be made" and "we signed the coalition agreement". The Lib Dems were never going to win outright, and there's a difference between making concessions and making yourself the conservative party's bitch. And correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the tuition fee's pledge signed before the coalition agreement?

Nick Clegg and the rest of them better get down the the hospital to investigate his missing spine right now before the doctors and nurses of the future graduate with incredible amounts of debt!

Oh, and a funny from PMQs for you to enjoy:
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 4:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Yet again protesting in orderly manner is what they should be doing. Activists are causing mayhem on the streets of London. These bloody idiots should be locked up for good. Policing costs you and me in our taxes.

I would prefer my taxes to go on educated our children to make this country a world leader again, have you never believed in anything worth going out and protesting over?

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I've yet to see question time, but I look forward to hearing what Charles Kennedy had to say, I can only imagine how scathing his attack on his deceitful colleagues will be! At least a few of them had the decency to do what is right and honour their SIGNED pledge.

I hate to disapoint you but Cleggs adviser Norman Lamb (to the slaughter ) was on instead I can't think why Kennedy wasn't on it Confused

Actually Aaron Porter held his own last night don't care about the bag lady that came on

a very hostile QT and so it bloody should be, role on the locals in May
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I've yet to see question time, but I look forward to hearing what Charles Kennedy had to say, I can only imagine how scathing his attack on his deceitful colleagues will be! At least a few of them had the decency to do what is right and honour their SIGNED pledge.

I hate to disapoint you but Cleggs adviser Norman Lamb (to the slaughter ) was on instead I can't think why Kennedy wasn't on it Confused

Actually Aaron Porter held his own last night don't care about the bag lady that came on

a very hostile QT and so it bloody should be, role on the locals in May


I thought Kennedy was supposed to be on it. What pity, I rather liked him. Anyway I look forward to seeing it anyway. At least the Conservatives don't need to sent a representative any more. They'll just send a Lib Dem - same difference isn't it?

At least there's someone out there who seems to care about the future of our country and supporting students. I know I'd never have gone to uni if was going to leave with thousands of pounds of debt.

And before some Daily Mail reading whinger comes along and says I should get a job instead of doing some mickey mouse degree, I'm not. There are plenty of other students like me who don't do the "pretend" degrees. Why should we be punished because of the other students who are on "pretend" degrees and the yobs that hijacked the protesters?

Yes indeed, a Lib Dem admitted on radio that he was voting yes so as not to "reward" protesters (the violent ones presumably - arguably the ones that aren't students and just hijacked it for the hell of it)

Quote:
EM: How are you going to vote on Thursday?
JH: At the moment Im very likely to vote for the increase simply because we cannot reward the bad behaviour from today. I have [interrupted]
EM: Just a second. Part of your thinking might be to punish protesters?
JH: The problem youve got is this. If you reward this form of behaviour, if it has any effect which is a positive effect, youre encouraging the behaviour in the future.
EM: Part of the reason youre going to reach your decision is based on the protests?
JH: Part of the reason has to be based on the protests because I cannot allow that to influence me in any favourable manner whatsoever.


Source

Gotta love this government.

I also remember hearing someone on JV (I think it was a conservative - I'll find out when I get the chance) that the fact that anti-war protesters had set up camp in Parliament Square was the sign of "a weak government".

I can't possibly be the only one worried about the fate of the UK.
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