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How much does the BBC make when you text a show?

 
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Helen May



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 7:03 pm    Post subject: How much does the BBC make when you text a show? Reply with quote

Seeing as you now have to text Drivetime for the showstopper, it got me wondering just how much if anything the Beeb makes out of them?

I've said elsewhere I'm not a mobile phone fan and texts cost me so I don't text in.

I know times are hard for them but.................. Rolling Eyes

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 7:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

25p a text plus your 10p standard charge. My guessing Radio 2 make 25p a message?
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 7:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The BBC makes no profit from the texts. The extra charges are added by the network operator.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 7:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My understanding is that Fred is correct in what he says

I'm not a fan of mobile phones either and to me they are a necessary evil but I was much happier in the days before they were invented

I love going to areas where there is no mobile phone reception as it is just so much less stressful

One thing to watch a lot of people think that 0844 numbers are local call rate like 0845 numbers but they are not as I found to my cost when I received my last phone bill
Silly me Embarassed
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 7:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mark: how on earth would the BBC make a profit from text charges?

If I text you, would you make any money?
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 8:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's a lot of of money to be made from revenue shares on texting. After all, big shows like Strictly and XFactory receive much of funding from these methods. That's why there's so much emphasis on this these days.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ruddlescat wrote:
I love going to areas where there is no mobile phone reception as it is just so much less stressful:


I'm typing this on my iPhone using the touch screen. I could be anywhere doing it. Why is it a problem for anyone else?

By the way, I've just received an email on the same device from a client telling me they've accepted my quote. Are these devices great!
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 8:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes Colin I understand what you are saying and technically these devices are excellent but if for example I choose to have a weekend away break in Britain I find it very irritating to have my peace constantly interrupted with all manner of people

And yes I could just turn the phone off but then as you say I could miss a vital business call

In the old days if someone phoned your landline and didn't get an answer they could leave a message and the matter could be dealt with on your return

What was wrong with that system which I found always worked well


Life is far too 'instant' today and most people are far too impatient

That's one reaon why I like being in rural France Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 9:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

But, Ruddles, if you were awaiting that vital business call to which you refer, surely one of these new fangled mobile thingies are ideal?

And as for the French, they don't understand the meaning of the word 'entrepreneur'.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 9:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

But I'm not waiting for it Schiz

If I'm away on holiday I'd much prefer to do the deal when I get back home but it's other people who expect an instant response

That's exactly the point I'm making- nobody is prepared to wait for anything anymore

We need a more laid back approach to life just like the French
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 10:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ruddlescat wrote:


One thing to watch a lot of people think that 0844 numbers are local call rate like 0845 numbers but they are not as I found to my cost when I received my last phone bill
Silly me Embarassed


I noticed this on our latest bill, a bit of pest as our Doctor's Surgery have gone on to an 0844 number. When the call does get answered you press 1 for an emergency and if it isn't, you wait and wait...... Sad
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 11:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Angela W wrote:
ruddlescat wrote:


One thing to watch a lot of people think that 0844 numbers are local call rate like 0845 numbers but they are not as I found to my cost when I received my last phone bill
Silly me Embarassed


I noticed this on our latest bill, a bit of pest as our Doctor's Surgery have gone on to an 0844 number. When the call does get answered you press 1 for an emergency and if it isn't, you wait and wait...... Sad


This site doesn't just do 0870 numbers; I found it very useful recently when having major grief with a bunch of clowns called Equifax.....

http://www.saynoto0870.com/
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 11:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh I've crossed swords with them Gnome

They're a total bunch of w---ers as compared to Experian who are excellent and easy to deal with

People just don't realise how much influence these organisations exercise over the lives of so many people with very little regulation and now apparently they're about to become bounty hunters unmasking alledged benefit fraud

Whatever we all think about fraud I find it a very sinister development
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 11:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It was because of XFactor and Strictly, who are known to make money from such texts, that made me wonder about what the Beeb will get out of them.

I did hear Simon say they could now give the exact % of who voted for what so I wonder if there have been problems.

I always remember the old Vodaphone ad with someone on a boat in the middle of a lake and this huge brick of a phone starting to ring. I think the slogan was "if you want to be in when you're out". Well I like 'to be out when I'm out' most of the time!

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 11:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Calls, texts and red button votes to the commercial television companies' shows generate income for whichever company produces the show.

Except for special occasions when Children In Need benefits, I don't believe that the BBC nets any profit from voting.

From a BT landline, the cost of a vote to X Factor was 35p, Dancing On Ice is 36p and to Strictly was 15p. Texts from mobiles are somewhat higher.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 8:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is what happens when you go to bed early.You miss the good stuff.

Since the charges for text messages are well advised and before sending a text you presumably have that conversation with yourself: is this limited character text message going to add to the rich tapestry of life, is this message going to enrich the lives of others or indeed myself, do I really want to send this, I mean really? If the answer is yes, surely it matters not one jot who gets the cash.

PS: Iíd never trust any business that gave me a mobile number to contact them- no landline number- you donít get my business. If youíre on holiday and youíre good at what you do- Iíll wait.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 9:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ruddlescat wrote:
Yes Colin I understand what you are saying and technically these devices are excellent but if for example I choose to have a weekend away break in Britain I find it very irritating to have my peace constantly interrupted with all manner of people


I can set the "telephone" component of my iPhone to go direct to voicemail, which then posts an onscreen icon to tell me that there are X entries in the log. I can also collect this info online through an Apple subscription utility called "MobileMe".

ruddlescat wrote:
And yes I could just turn the phone off but then as you say I could miss a vital business call


Being self-employed, like many people, I can't afford to miss a call wherever I am and whatever I'm doing, so what I do is assign different ringtones to particular entries in my contact file. Some of those incoming calls can then go direct to voicemail when I tell them to.

ruddlescat wrote:
In the old days if someone phoned your landline and didn't get an answer they could leave a message and the matter could be dealt with on your return

What was wrong with that system which I found always worked well


Surely it works in exactly that way if you decide that it should. The only difference is the phone that's permanently connected to a box on the wall by a bit of cable.

ruddlescat wrote:
Life is far too 'instant' today and most people are far too impatient


I don't agree. I mean, you could say that once Bell had invented the phone life was going to be too "instant" for many people; what was wrong with the carrier pigeon or ye goold olde semaphore system, after all?

ruddlescat wrote:
That's one reaon why I like being in rural France Very Happy


I like being in rural France, too. They have mobile phones there as well, of course.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 9:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ColinB wrote:


ruddlescat wrote:
That's one reaon why I like being in rural France Very Happy


I like being in rural France, too. They have mobile phones there as well, of course.


Coverage/reception of mobile phone signal was better, in the three rural areas of France I've been to, than in equivalent locales of the UK
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 9:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

RockitRon wrote:
Coverage/reception of mobile phone signal was better, in the three rural areas of France I've been to, than in equivalent locales of the UK


3G data coverage is better and more consistent, too.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 9:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Taking work related phone-calls while on holiday is madness. Being on holiday is when you temporally suspend your normal life by divesting yourself of having anything to do with work or home. If you take work calls while on holiday, youíre not on holiday, youíre just working in a different location.
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Rachel wrote:
Taking work related phone-calls while on holiday is madness. Being on holiday is when you temporally suspend your normal life by divesting yourself of having anything to do with work or home. If you take work calls while on holiday, youíre not on holiday, youíre just working in a different location.


I agree with the bit about holidays, Rachel. However, I don't personally feel comfortable about divesting of everything relating to "home"; even if we're away (whether out of the country or not) we have to keep in touch with family members - such as my wife's needing to check that her elderly frail mother is OK. Our daughter will always give us daily updates and, in that respect, the mobile device (whether communicating by phone, text or email, etc) is absolutely essential.

Of course, for those who don't have the ability to select or prioritise incoming communicaton on a single device, why not do what my son-in-law does? He has a fancy HTC Android device for all his personal stuff and a £10.00 PAYG Tesco Mobile phone for calls related to his eBay sales business. If he doesn't want to take calls in respect of the latter, he either switches it off or leaves it at home! It then goes straight to voicemail.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 2:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Colin, of course you are entirely correct in everything you say but it still doesn't alter the fact that I have a dislike of mobile phones

Sometimes these things do not follow logic they are just personal dislikes which we all have of certain things in one way or another

As for rural France of course I realise they have mobile phones there but I was talking about the bigger picture and I don't mean the one displayed on a phone screen

I was referring to the fact that in rural France the whole way of life is more relaxed and at a slower pace with or without mobiles which might go some way to explaining why so many British people choose to go there or even live there
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 3:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ruddlescat wrote:
Colin, of course you are entirely correct in everything you say but it still doesn't alter the fact that I have a dislike of mobile phones


Do you specifically mean "mobile phones" or do you dislike "mobile communication devices" in general? Cool
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 3:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm with Ruddles on this one, although I do have an Iphone, I cannot help but think that life was far better in the days before them.

As a salesman years ago I would phone my orders in at the end of the day, my boss not knowing where I was until then, it was heaven, I could even do it from home pretending to be elsewhere!

Although I do different work now, many I know are still doing the same thing and they are tracked all day, and their phones don't stop ringing, I wouldn't call that progress.

Yes they do have some great app's and can get you out of a hole, but what you've never had you never miss, they are a necessary evil I'm afraid.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 3:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My mobile device certainly isn't "a necessary evil". It's a fantastic resource.

The first mobile phone I ever bought (at huge cost) was an NEC 11A car phone back in 1987. The reason I got it was because I was in the middle of London without a carphone and my wife took a call from a potential client who needed a answer to a job offer there and then. She couldn't get me. I lost the deal. I immediately had a phone installed afterwards (Oddly enough, I still have it in the loft).

The good old days, eh! Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 3:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ColinB wrote:
My mobile device certainly isn't "a necessary evil". It's a fantastic resource.

The first mobile phone I ever bought (at huge cost) was an NEC 11A car phone back in 1987. The reason I got it was because I was in the middle of London without a carphone and my wife took a call from a potential client who needed a answer to a job offer there and then. She couldn't get me. I lost the deal. I immediately had a phone installed afterwards (Oddly enough, I still have it in the loft).

The good old days, eh! Smile


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 3:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Colin, its not really the actual phones or devices I dislike, it's more the fact that because they exist certain people expect me to be available from 7am until 11pm on demand however inconvenient it may be for me to have to speak to them at any given time

It's not so much a problem in normal day to day life because I can simply switch off the phone and call people back when more convenient

What really bugs me is exactly the point made by Rachel in that when I am taking a rare holiday break and I end up having to deal with the same crap as I would do if I was not on holiday so what on earth is the point of bothering?

That reminds me of a rather strange happening back in 1987
I was staying in a converted abbey in the Black Mountains for a few days which I still visit regularly now and up in the hills there is no decent radio reception and no terrestial TV signal and the nearest shop selling newspapers is ten miles away

After staying for a few days I arrived back home on a Sunday evening and switched on my TV to be bombarded with election coverage and I immediately thought to myself 'why on earth is the BBC showing all this old election stuff?'

Apparently a General Election had been announced four days earlier and I must have been the only person in Britain not to know about it Embarassed
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