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Rachel · Guest

Listeners are up. Well, for Radio 2 anyway. Not so good for 6 Music - more listeners smaller reach- niche market, just for nerds. No doubt why R & M are packing up their bowling bags and heading that way.

RockitRon · Joined: 07 Dec 2006 Posts: 7646

Excellent news. Someone must like it, contrary to appearances on here.

If they weren't so eager to push digital radio R&M would probably be presiding over 6Music's final days.
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RockitRon · Joined: 07 Dec 2006 Posts: 7646

Not only... but also...

"Radio 2 DJ Chris Evans remained the most popular breakfast host, with an audience of 8.72 million listeners, up 310,000 on the previous quarter, compared to the 7.45 million who tuned into his Radio 1 rival Chris Moyles each week, up from 7.1 million in the previous three months."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/feb/03/rajars-talk-radio

Interesting also to note that there was almost no change in the figure or share for the much vaunted "rival" to Radio 2, Smooth, which went national in October.
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ruddlescat · Joined: 16 Sep 2010 Posts: 18010 Location: Near Chester

I'd much rather have a quality broadcast with lower audience figures than the type of trash Radio 2 currently offers at breakfast time

These figures are meaningless because if you choose to pander to the lowest common denominator you are obviously going to get increased ratings but for the wrong reasons

One only has to look at circulation figures for The Sun newspaper
It sells by far the most copies every day but would anyone in their right mind describe it as a publication of any quality?

Just because a thing is popular does not in itself offer any pointers as to quality so I really do wish people on both sides of this argument would stop constantly going on about these issues
The whole thing is a total red herring
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Helen May · Joined: 10 Dec 2006 Posts: 19335 Location: Cheshire

I agree with Ruddles, no need to add anymore.

I'll only add that I'm listening to less and less as the weeks go by.

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ColinB · Guest

I agree, Helen; what the figures clearly demonstrate is that there's a lot of people who will listen to any old crap in the same way as people watch the same old crappy telly, eat the same crappy junk food (even though they know it's killing them) and worship the same stupid celebrities. Statistics tell us nothing and yet the same statistics tell us everything we need to know.

My wife often has R2 on when she gets up at 6.30ish, which means that has been hearing a bit of Chris Evans' appalling show, but I notice that this morning even she ran for the "off" switch when he was shouting out what's in the newspapers today.

I won't repeat the words she used, but they weren't nice.....! Smile

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Fred · Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 11:32 am Post subject:

Interesting that when Wogan was on Breakfast, the figures seemed to prove how popular he was. With Evans on Breakfast, they show how stupid the British public is.

I don't get that. Confused

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ruddlescat · Joined: 16 Sep 2010 Posts: 18010 Location: Near Chester

Fred as I tried to make clear in my earlier post I dislike audience figures being quoted on either side of the breakfast show argument because they are meaningless except apparently to Network Controllers who seem obsessed with them when in actual fact we are paying through our licence fees for them to be providing quality programming not inane rubbish

The Chris Evans Show is Radio 2's equivalent of the Sun Newspaper-
apparently popular but extremely lacking in any kind of quality

Incidentally I would argue exactly the same point over Wogan's audience figures and the fact that they were relatively high did not necessarily mean that he was the right person to be hosting a breakfast show

The truth is that the breakfast show is the most popular one on virtually every radio station and so it will always attract relatively high numbers of listeners whoever is presenting it

I just wish people would forget about these figures otherwise they are simply playing the thing to Bob Shennan's silly agenda
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ruddlescat · Joined: 16 Sep 2010 Posts: 18010 Location: Near Chester

I've heard of quoting selectively and out of context but from that point of view I think the last post takes the biscuit

How silly can some people get?
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undiscovered · Joined: 15 Sep 2010 Posts: 650 Location: Peterborough

aviddiva · Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 1:39 pm Post subject: Listen up...

I'm guessing that Mark Radcliffe disagreed with Shennan D'oh's policies and this led to him and Stuart Maconie taking their bats and balls home.
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Gibbo · Joined: 31 Aug 2010 Posts: 117 Location: Wirral

I'd believe the opinions of people on here over "official" figures from the BBC any day.

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gazmando · Joined: 15 Apr 2007 Posts: 560 Location: Huntingdon

I've always hated the assumption by some people that if you enjoy The Chris Evans Breakfast show you are a stupid, junk food eating, lowest common denominator imbecile!!!
I wouldn't describe myself, or any of my work colleagues that way at all and find it fairly insulting.
And to say the anti Evans gang wouldn't have pounced if his listening figures had gone down is quite ridiculous, and I think, hand on heart you all know it.
Also Gibbo do you believe the opinions of people on here rather than the "official" figures as long as they are of the same opinion as you then?

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ruddlescat · Joined: 16 Sep 2010 Posts: 18010 Location: Near Chester

With great respect Colin I think the comparison with the Sun newspaper is probably easier for most people to understand

As I mentioned previously Chris Evans is the Radio 2 equivalent

Apparently popular but seriously lacking in quality
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Rachel · Guest

But I don't like the Sun Newspaper, I do like the Chris Evans Show- surely that's a paradox. In your world, one of those statements must be untrue.

ruddlescat · Joined: 16 Sep 2010 Posts: 18010 Location: Near Chester

I'm not suggesting that everyone who listens to Chris Evans is a Sun reader

I'm really making the point mentioned by Colin that audience numbers or in the case of the Sun reader numbers are not necessarily an indication of the quality of a radio show or a newspaper and the same applies to junk food as Colin pointed out

Many people take the easy option rather than the best option Sad

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Rachel · Guest

I can see what you’re saying and I understand and sympathise, to a degree, with that viewpoint, indeed, there are elements of Chris’ show that don’t float my boat entirely: I think that’s a good thing because it shows, for me anyway, (I can only presume that some others perhaps do the same), that I’m not taking the easy option. Special Fried Rice is my favourite Chinese dish but I never eat the little green chunks of whatever they are, and it takes quite an effort to pick them all out and then put them to one side. It’s much the same with Chris’ show: you listen to it – taste everything, then you learn the bits that you like and the bits that you’re happy to leave to one side for hubby to eat. Because everyone is different, the bits they like and the bits they leave are different, otherwise we’d have an EU mountain of leftover little green chunks- we’d be swimming in them! If I were to take the easy, lazy option, I’d have garlic and honey fried chicken with chips and gravy; I wouldn’t leave the tiniest scrap for anyone, I’d smell like a Frenchman’s armpit and would have no friends. That’s pretty much what would happen with the quality radio you’re talking about. It would smell like a Frenchman’s armpit and hardly anyone would want that for breakfast five days a week. Smile

Weird?... Nah not me. Smile

undiscovered · Joined: 15 Sep 2010 Posts: 650 Location: Peterborough

To be honest in general it doesn't matter who presents the show if the music is good, but it helps if they are informed a little in eth music they put out.
I think ALL radiostations these days, commercial ones it has always been the case but not so with the BBC are chasing the golden figures of justification in their meddling.
I think R1 and 6 music are great stations for what the BBC should be yes may not get it, but they cater for something that maybe wouldn't be catered for if we didn't have the BBC
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ColinB · Guest

Of course, it's just not possible to assess any particular elements of Evans' show without having to endure the voice that glues it all together. And that's the inherent problem - he has (to me, at least) the most annoying vocal style imaginable. You only have to listen to the first minute of his "show" to detect that he's not only trying very hard to sound jolly and on-the-ball but he's also letting it slip that he's desperate for attention. It all sounds so false - and I cannot stand all the contrived bonhomie either.

I don't know why "breakfast" has to consist of such an assault on one's senses from 6.30am onwards. Evans' radio and TV style is old-hat, tired and - well - just plain tiresome! Thank heavens for the vast array of alternatives that are now available to us out there in the "digital space"!

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I think I heard on he news at 07:30 - listeners are up again for the Breakfast Show: another 400,000 - just about 9.5 million in total now but who's counting. Smile

RockitRon · Joined: 07 Dec 2006 Posts: 7646

9.53 million.

It's all gone very quiet.
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Helen May · Joined: 10 Dec 2006 Posts: 19335 Location: Cheshire

It has in our house because I don't listen between 06.30 and 09.30!

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