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PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 9:15 am    Post subject: Domino's Pizza - Human Billboard Campaign.... Reply with quote

Has anyone seen workers standing around your town with billboards around there bodies, sometimes dressed up in Spiderman advertising Domino's Pizza's?

How degrading is looks, plus cheap labour!!
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 9:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would assume these people would have to be paid the mninimum wage applicable for their age but I do agree that is is degrading and it can't be a good thing to be promoting unhealthy junk food in super obese Britain Shocked
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 9:34 am    Post subject: Re: Domino's Pizza - Human Billboard Campaign.... Reply with quote

mark occomore wrote:
Has anyone seen workers standing around your town with billboards around there bodies, sometimes dressed up in Spiderman advertising Domino's Pizza's?

How degrading is looks, plus cheap labour!!


It isn't cheap labour at all. Recently, one of our local branches of Domino's mounted a similar roadside campaign to act as a spoiler to a new branch of Papa John's just around the corner. The people who were employed to wear the silly costumes and wave at drivers were employed from temp agencies (a student friend of ours was one of them) and they were paid basic temp agency rates - just slightly above legal minimum wage.

What's notable is that turnover at the branch concerned was up - so it must have been effective.

I prefer Domino's over the others, as it happens - though it's still no substitute for the real pizza you get in Naples.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 10:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually weíre all human billboards of one sort or another- whether itís a GUCCI Handbag and Fat Face Tee-Shirt or an ASDA Carrier Bag, whether you drive a BMW a Lamborghini or ride a Raleigh, Joe Blogs or Joe Brown or just plain old NO LOGO stuff we are all unpaid walking sandwich boards on the world stage Ė now that is cheap labour Ė we pay them to advertise their stuff. Mugs the lot of us!
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 10:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rachel wrote:
we pay them to advertise their stuff. Mugs the lot of us!


I don't!
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 11:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ColinB wrote:
Rachel wrote:
we pay them to advertise their stuff. Mugs the lot of us!


I don't!


Oh yes you do. Any product that you buy- anything that you wear use or talk about in public is advertising. Take the i-phone for example- you talk about that in your sleep- spotify- another one of your product favorites, I could go on.... you see, there is no escape- you are a hampster on the wheel of advertisng- you can never get off - even your funeral will be an advert for some organisation or another. Fekkel Freezers baby! That is the way of things- day after day after day after day. You are an advert- not a very good one Smile but an advert you are.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 11:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think Rachel makes a fair point there Colin

I had reason to visit a Garden of Remembrance at a local crematorium last week and I was rather surprised to notice that every single hearse which arrived fully loaded had a sign on display advertising the name, address and even the e mail address of the Funeral Directors concerned

It was all done in the best possible taste but the thought went through my mind that even when you're dead you are still a target for someone's advertising Sad
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 11:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rachel wrote:
ColinB wrote:
Rachel wrote:
we pay them to advertise their stuff. Mugs the lot of us!


I don't!


Oh yes you do.


In the main - I don't insofar as I can help it. Few people provide my business with free advertising so I limit that which I give to other businesses where I possibly can.

Anyhow, I was thinking specifically in the context of clothing (apparel being the subject here) - and I can't think of anything I wear that constitutes an ad for any clothing brand.

As for the iPhone, that's true. I do sing its praises largely to remind people that there alternative means by which we can listen to sources of what, in the olden days, used to be called "radio". Other brands of smartphone devices do exist, of course.

However, in the case of the Domino's spiderman costume-wearers who are often seen out on the streets promoting the company's brand, the point is that it isn't fair to put them down as "cheap labour" specifically. The fact that they're helping to promote the Domino's brand (in return for money) is largely irrelevant.

PS: Why do I help to promote Radio Caroline? Well - the answer is simple. It's maintained and managed largely by volunteers who provide a great alternative service to the pap that is Radio 2 and in my option they deserve to be supported.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 12:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ColinB wrote:

Anyhow, I was thinking specifically in the context of clothing (apparel being the subject here) - and I can't think of anything I wear that constitutes an ad for any clothing brand.


On the contrary. Subconsciously, everything we wear is an advert.
You presumably choose, buy and wear clothes that look good on you. Does no-one ever say to you "Where did you buy that....."?
(I know it may be more of a girl thing, but it's not unkown for men, even for me)
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On the contrary. Subconsciously, everything we wear is an advert.


Not exactly. It's only an "advert" in the practical sense if brand identities are visible. I choose not to display brands on anything that I wear if at all possible and I've always believed that people who pay large sums of money for the privilege of sporting the brand of a multi-national corporation are complete suckers.

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You presumably choose, buy and wear clothes that look good on you.


Not really. For most of the time, I wear clothes that feel comfortable on me. And even if the black t-shirt I'm wearing at the moment does look good on me (not really surprising - I am a babe-magnet after all) then the only thing that can be said of the item of clothing is that it's a black t-shirt. So what?

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Does no-one ever say to you "Where did you buy that....."?


Never. More likely: "Where the hell did you get that?" Cool
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 2:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ColinB wrote:
RockitRon wrote:

On the contrary. Subconsciously, everything we wear is an advert.


Not exactly. It's only an "advert" in the practical sense if brand identities are visible. I choose not to display brands on anything that I wear if at all possible and I've always believed that people who pay large sums of money for the privilege of sporting the brand of a multi-national corporation are complete suckers.

RockitRon wrote:
You presumably choose, buy and wear clothes that look good on you.


Not really. For most of the time, I wear clothes that feel comfortable on me. And even if the black t-shirt I'm wearing at the moment does look good on me (not really surprising - I am a babe-magnet after all) then the only thing that can be said of the item of clothing is that it's a black t-shirt. So what?

RockitRon wrote:
Does no-one ever say to you "Where did you buy that....."?


Never. More likely: "Where the hell did you get that?" Cool



You canít say black t-shirt without thinking Simon Cowell- so now youíre advertising the X Factor; what about your bottom half- you do have a bottom half donít you? Youíre not like half-man, half swivel-chair are you? You clearly havenít seen the Devil Wears Prada- even your dull logo free t-shirt has been chosen just for you by a fashion marketing expert who knew that you would buy it or more likely that your wife would buy it for you, and that you would wear it, and probably deny that in so doing you would be joining in with the fashion world- but that is exactly what you are doing. You are part of the machine whether you mean to be or even if you actively avoid it, and whether you like it or not.

Miranda Priestly is my role model. Deal with her and you can with me. That's all.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbthtLM5VS4
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 2:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rachel wrote:
ColinB wrote:
RockitRon wrote:

On the contrary. Subconsciously, everything we wear is an advert.


Not exactly. It's only an "advert" in the practical sense if brand identities are visible. I choose not to display brands on anything that I wear if at all possible and I've always believed that people who pay large sums of money for the privilege of sporting the brand of a multi-national corporation are complete suckers.

RockitRon wrote:
You presumably choose, buy and wear clothes that look good on you.


Not really. For most of the time, I wear clothes that feel comfortable on me. And even if the black t-shirt I'm wearing at the moment does look good on me (not really surprising - I am a babe-magnet after all) then the only thing that can be said of the item of clothing is that it's a black t-shirt. So what?

RockitRon wrote:
Does no-one ever say to you "Where did you buy that....."?


Never. More likely: "Where the hell did you get that?" Cool



You canít say black t-shirt without thinking Simon Cowell- so now youíre advertising the X Factor; what about your bottom half- you do have a bottom half donít you? Youíre not like half-man, half swivel-chair are you?


The web cam is switched off - so how did you work that one out?

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You clearly havenít seen the Devil Wears Prada...


Oh yes I have - and I'd have given Meryl Streep a good slap if I worked for her. Not that I would, of course. Well, unless she paid me lots of money. Sort of.

Rachel wrote:
....even your dull logo free t-shirt has been chosen just for you by a fashion marketing expert who knew that you would buy it or more likely that your wife would buy it for you, and that you would wear it, and probably deny that in so doing you would be joining in with the fashion world- but that is exactly what you are doing. You are part of the machine whether you mean to be or even if you actively avoid it, and whether you like it or not.


No I'm not. Really, I'm not. No - really.

Rachel wrote:
Miranda Priestly is my role model. Deal with her and you can with me. That's all.


Er, she'd frighten the hell out of me that's for sure. What does that tell you? Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 7:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Colin, your tag line is a very poor advert for the great Goddess Caroline. I'd be really miffed if I were them, that the best thing you can say about their station is that Chris Evans isn't there: who is there- why should I listen? There are a zillion stations where Chris Evans isn't: are they as good as Caroline? What sets Caroline apart from the rest for you?

Caroline's website is poor too- they say the World's most famous offshore Radio Station- still on air today. No it isn't.. It's not offshore and it's not on air.
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Colin, your tag line is a very poor advert for the great Goddess Caroline. I'd be really miffed if I were them, that the best thing you can say about their station is that Chris Evans isn't there: who is there- why should I listen? There are a zillion stations where Chris Evans isn't: are they as good as Caroline? What sets Caroline apart from the rest for you?


I'm not saying "the best thing about it" I'm saying "what's good about it is...". That's enough for me. The fact that it's a very good station whose presenters play the kind of stuff I like in a style that I like is a big bonus. And Evans is nowhere to be heard. Excellent.

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Caroline's website is poor too- they say the World's most famous offshore Radio Station- still on air today. No it isn't.. It's not offshore and it's not on air.


I don't really care what the website looks like, to be honest (even though it still makes more interesting reading than Radio 2's). I'm more interested in the audio output. Nor do I care that it's not "on air" in the conventional sense (does its Sky Channel 0199 transmission not count as "on air"?) or that the MV Ross Revenge actually moored at Tilbury most of the time. Remember that the whole operation is run on a shoestring - mostly by volunteers (Call Me Dave's "Big Society"?) who do a fabulous job. It's most definitely a welcome alternative to boring Radio 2 - especially when Mr.Cackle is on at breakfast!

And the app is excellent, too.
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ColinB wrote:
Rachel wrote:
Colin, your tag line is a very poor advert for the great Goddess Caroline. I'd be really miffed if I were them, that the best thing you can say about their station is that Chris Evans isn't there: who is there- why should I listen? There are a zillion stations where Chris Evans isn't: are they as good as Caroline? What sets Caroline apart from the rest for you?


I'm not saying "the best thing about it" I'm saying "what's good about it is...". That's enough for me. The fact that it's a very good station whose presenters play the kind of stuff I like in a style that I like is a big bonus. And Evans is nowhere to be heard. Excellent.

Rachel wrote:
Caroline's website is poor too- they say the World's most famous offshore Radio Station- still on air today. No it isn't.. It's not offshore and it's not on air.


I don't really care what the website looks like, to be honest (even though it still makes more interesting reading than Radio 2's). I'm more interested in the audio output. Nor do I care that it's not "on air" in the conventional sense (does its Sky Channel 0199 transmission not count as "on air"?) or that the MV Ross Revenge actually moored at Tilbury most of the time. Remember that the whole operation is run on a shoestring - mostly by volunteers (Call Me Dave's "Big Society"?) who do a fabulous job. It's most definitely a welcome alternative to boring Radio 2 - especially when Mr.Cackle is on at breakfast!

And the app is excellent, too.


Being on Sky( Blimey you mentioned Sky- I'm surprised you have anything to do with that organisation) doesn't count as being on air in the world of Radio- I can't tune in on my radio- so it's not on air. It sounds like a "hobby" Radio Station really- garden shed stuff- fun but not really in the real world.
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Rachel wrote:
Being on Sky( Blimey you mentioned Sky- I'm surprised you have anything to do with that organisation) doesn't count as being on air in the world of Radio- I can't tune in on my radio- so it's not on air.


I'm merely stating a fact regarding Sky 0199.

Anyhow, I don't know if you've noticed, Rachel, but the world of technology is changing fast. We're well into an age of On-demand broadcasting, digital streaming, direct-to-mobile device streaming etc etc. Fibre-to-the-premises is completely changing the way we listen to and view "broadcast" content - and 4G isn't even upon us yet! The term "On air" is destined to be irrelevant - certainly in the context you describe.

Rachel wrote:
It sounds like a "hobby" Radio Station really- garden shed stuff- fun but not really in the real world.


It's no more a "hobby" station than many others. For a "hobby" station it sounds a million times better than many bland, formulaic, enfranchised stations owned by multi-national companies and turning out the same dross day after day. If being a "hobby" station broadcast from a garden shed is what differentiates it from that lot then I'm mighty glad I have such a "hobby" station to listen to, to be honest.

Don't forget that it's being going since 1964 (on and off) and it's sounding better today than it ever has done. Remember also that without Caroline, Big L, etc., there would be no Radio One or Two as we know them. Ronan O'Rahilly and others forced change upon broadcasting legislators.

Talking of the "real world" - is that the place where Bob Shennan lives? If so, I'll stick with the station that broadcasts from the garden shed. It's much better - especially at weekday breakfast times, when I don't get shouted at or treated as an unthinking imbecile.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 8:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Anyhow, I don't know if you've noticed, Rachel, but the world of technology is changing fast. We're well into an age of On-demand broadcasting, digital streaming, direct-to-mobile device streaming etc etc. Fibre-to-the-premises is completely changing the way we listen to and view "broadcast" content - and 4G isn't even upon us yet! The term "On air" is destined to be irrelevant - certainly in the context you describe.


So why are they campaigning to be allocated an AM frequency band, if it's so old and not really the way things are going? Is it perhaps because the super whizzo technology you rave about is unpopular, unwieldy and actually on its way out faster than it came in?
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So why are they campaigning to be allocated an AM frequency band, if it's so old and not really the way things are going? Is it perhaps because the super whizzo technology you rave about is unpopular, unwieldy and actually on its way out faster than it came in?


No, the "super whizzo technology" is the way it is and the way it's going to be. Why do you think they're kicking analogue TV into touch? Because they need the bandwidth for newer technologies - 4G to name but one. And if it's all on its way out then why are so many people now using mobile devices - particularly Smartphones and Tablet PCs - for almost all their media browsing and sharing? How come Facebook and Twitter have completely changed the face of ye olde internet in much less than a decade? Love 'em or hate 'em, they exist and have a massive user-base - one that will continue to grow even after Facebook and Twitter themselves have been superceded, as indeed they will (just like MySpace). There will always be the "next big thing" just like FM stereo radio kicked AM aside in the late 60s and early 70s.

I know you'd prefer things to stay the way they are, Rachel*, but the simple fact is that things are indeed changing fast. And a good thing too (in my opinion). Being able to tap into a "radio station's" stream using a variety of digital devices is exactly what I've been wanting for years - if only I knew it at the time. And besides, late last night a former college buddy of mine who now lives in New Zealand asked me if I could supply him with a video clip I have of him on Betacam-SP asap. I digitised it, compressed it to H.264 and emailed it to him (it was only 30 secs). Within minutes, he was playing it on his iPad and showing it to people in a seminar. Is that cool beans or is it not cool beans? I suppose I could have posted him a copy of the tape instead, but it would have missed his deadline - and a satellite feed would be way too expensive. The pigeon wasn't available to make the flight, either.

New digital technology - doncha just love it. I know I do. "Fancy whizzo technology"? You bet. Bring it on.

Oh, and why is the Caroline organisation campaigning for an AM frequency in the South East? For old times' sake, really. For the hell of it. For fun. It's allowed, you know!

*secretly I think you're on a wind-up. I don't really see you as a Luddite. Cool
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 12:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm confused Colin

In your postscript were you suggesting that Rachel was on a wind up radio or did you mean she was conducting a campaign to wind YOU up? Confused

Whilst all this new technology is very clever I much preferred the days when we had older technology but far better programmes

For example I just cannot believe that anyone would queue outside any shop for more than 24 hours just to get the latest I Pad as soon as the shop opens
Why can't these people wait for a few hours or a day or even a week or come to think of it why do they need the damn thing anyway as they probably have the previous model which still works fine

In my experience most people were far happier in the days when life wasn't so instant because there was far more to look forward to

I do accept that instant communication can be vital for businesses but what gets me is why ordinary private citizens need to have everything in life provided on a plate instantly Sad
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ColinB wrote:
No, the "super whizzo technology" is the way it is and the way it's going to be. Why do you think they're kicking analogue TV into touch? Because they need the bandwidth for newer technologies - 4G to name but one.


Is 4G going to be as late and as disappointing as 3G was/is?

ColinB wrote:
And if it's all on its way out then why are so many people now using mobile devices - particularly Smartphones and Tablet PCs - for almost all their media browsing and sharing?



Because itís seen as "trendy" and in the main people are dumb stupid animals who follow like sheep.


ColinB wrote:
How come Facebook and Twitter have completely changed the face of ye olde internet in much less than a decade? Love 'em or hate 'em, they exist and have a massive user-base - one that will continue to grow even after Facebook and Twitter themselves have been superceded, as indeed they will (just like MySpace). There will always be the "next big thing" just like FM stereo radio kicked AM aside in the late 60s and early 70s.


The problem with those social networking sites you mention is that they arenít social at all, the vast majority of data supplied by the vast majority of the user-base you mention is complete twaddle- of no use to mankind whatsoever: arguably itís a step backwards not forward. I read somewhere this morning and I quote ďTwitter is the bastard child of text-speakĒ but for me Twitter and other similar sites is a digital-somatic overlay Ė a facade that people use to drape over their dull, pointless lives because it makes them feel important and that they have a voice, when in fact, they are nobodies whom donít matter a bean and never will- no one who matters is actually listening because no one person at all anywhere matters enough to get enough followers who actually matter enough to be able to make a difference.

ColinB wrote:
I know you'd prefer things to stay the way they are, Rachel*, but the simple fact is that things are indeed changing fast. And a good thing too (in my opinion).



On the contrary, Iím all for progress when makes a difference to the things that matter, poverty, hunger, homelessness, health and peace.


ColinB wrote:
Being able to tap into a "radio station's" stream using a variety of digital devices is exactly what I've been wanting for years - if only I knew it at the time. And besides, late last night a former college buddy of mine who now lives in New Zealand asked me if I could supply him with a video clip I have of him on Betacam-SP asap. I digitised it, compressed it to H.264 and emailed it to him (it was only 30 secs).



I could have done that ten years ago Ė thatís just a digital file and e-mail, nothing to do with Twitter or Facebook.


ColinB wrote:
Within minutes, he was playing it on his iPad and showing it to people in a seminar. Is that cool beans or is it not cool beans?


It is quite cool beans Ė useful even, but nothing to do with Twitter or Facebook.


ColinB wrote:
New digital technology - doncha just love it. I know I do. "Fancy whizzo technology"? You bet. Bring it on.


Yeah why not, if it does some good.

ColinB wrote:
Oh, and why is the Caroline organisation campaigning for an AM frequency in the South East? For old times' sake, really. For the hell of it. For fun. It's allowed, you know!


Now you are having a laugh. Colin, they have no listeners- it's a bunch of nerds, living on nostalgia, having a bit of fun in an old shed that is going nowhere.

ColinB wrote:
*secretly I think you're on a wind-up. I don't really see you as a Luddite. Cool


Iím not a Luddite. Iím quite a techno-geek actually. I know stuff- so Gizza Kiss! Smile
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I'm confused Colin

In your postscript were you suggesting that Rachel was on a wind up radio or did you mean she was conducting a campaign to wind YOU up? Confused


Yes. She's naughty like that. Wink

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Whilst all this new technology is very clever I much preferred the days when we had older technology but far better programmes


We had even less before the pirates came to air. And before Elvis Presley, popular music was "listenable" to the ears of many. Edison's phonograph was a fabulous invention but a bit impractical. Where does it end?

ruddlescat wrote:
For example I just cannot believe that anyone would queue outside any shop for more than 24 hours just to get the latest I Pad as soon as the shop opens
Why can't these people wait for a few hours or a day or even a week or come to think of it why do they need the damn thing anyway as they probably have the previous model which still works fine


Quite right. They're mugs.


ruddlescat wrote:
In my experience most people were far happier in the days when life wasn't so instant because there was far more to look forward to


I can only speak for myself, but I have lots to look forward to.

ruddlescat wrote:
I do accept that instant communication can be vital for businesses but what gets me is why ordinary private citizens need to have everything in life provided on a plate instantly Sad


It's not just businesses. I can carry my iPhone with me in my pocket and then plug it into its dock in the kitchen to stream Radio Caroline at breakfast time, whereas I'd otherwise be very limited to what I could listen to. That's just technology working for me in the manner that suits me. What's wrong with that?

I remember the day, in the mid-60s, when my dad bought a car that actually had a radio receiver fitted in (it was an Austin Cambridge - very posh). Just imagine - we could listen to the Light Programme on Medium Wave whilst driving! (Rachel would have called it "whizzo technology" or a gimmick something).

Remember, if a product or service doesn't satisfy a need then people won't buy it. If it does, they will. Rule No. 1 in marketing.
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I see where you're coming from Colin and just to let you know I decided to give Caroline a listen on 0199 this afternoon and I'm still listening now

I like the presenter's style ( I think he's called Johnny Lewis) and the first track I heard was Easy Livin' by Uriah Heep from the album Demons and Wizards, probably my favourite artists of the 70s - took me back to the days of my youth when I used to go to the old Liverpool Stadium

I have never heard any of their stuff played on Radio 2 with the exception of their track 'The Wizard' from the same album which was once played by Ken Bruce about five years ago so I think you might have a new convert to Caroline

The station seems to be a good mix of new stuff and older tracks including album tracks and I'll definitely listen in the future
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Rachel wrote:


Is 4G going to be as late and as disappointing as 3G was/is?


It works fine for me, and lots of others I know.

Rachel wrote:
Because itís seen as "trendy" and in the main people are dumb stupid animals who follow like sheep.


Nonsense. That may be true for some but it's not a fair estimation for schools and businesses who are using such devices. Your summary is based on stereotypes, Rachel.

Rachel wrote:
The problem with those social networking sites you mention is that they arenít social at all, the vast majority of data supplied by the vast majority of the user-base you mention is complete twaddle- of no use to mankind whatsoever: arguably itís a step backwards not forward.


That's absolute rubbish. I've made a lot of good contacts through Twitter and it's an extremely useful way of keeping up with things in a professional and social sense. And look at the key role played by social media in the uprisings in Egypt, Tunisia and - to a lesser extent - in Libya. You're discounting things without analysing how they really work - and can work. Technology can be put to positive uses too, you know!

Rachel wrote:
On the contrary, Iím all for progress when makes a difference to the things that matter, poverty, hunger, homelessness, health and peace.


And so am I.


ColinB wrote:
Being able to tap into a "radio station's" stream using a variety of digital devices is exactly what I've been wanting for years - if only I knew it at the time. And besides, late last night a former college buddy of mine who now lives in New Zealand asked me if I could supply him with a video clip I have of him on Betacam-SP asap. I digitised it, compressed it to H.264 and emailed it to him (it was only 30 secs).


Rachel wrote:
I could have done that ten years ago Ė thatís just a digital file and e-mail, nothing to do with Twitter or Facebook.


I wasn't linking it to Twitter or Facebook. I was referring to the means by which we're now able to move large amounts of digital data around very quickly. And I couldn't have done it 10 years ago because video compression didn't allow it in the way that modern codecs do (so there) and it would have taken ages to upload/download. And you certainly couldn't have shown it at the other end via WiFi on a handheld tablet display - or in such high quality.

Rachel wrote:
It is quite cool beans Ė useful even, but nothing to do with Twitter or Facebook.


Again, you're missing the point, Rachel. I was talking about "immediacy" and not those particular sites.

Rachel wrote:
Now you are having a laugh. Colin, they have no listeners- it's a bunch of nerds, living on nostalgia, having a bit of fun in an old shed that is going nowhere.


Wrong again. On Caroline you'll hear more new and current music by acts that just don't get a look in on staid old Radio 2 - and presented by people who know what they're talking about and are a pleasure to listen to. Something that's all too rare on Radio 2, I'm sorry to say (I won't even mentioned that twit Evans).

And I know several people in their 20s who are turning to Radio Caroline now - people who think that Radio One is bad, let alone Radio 2!!!

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Iím not a Luddite. Iím quite a techno-geek actually. I know stuff- so Gizza Kiss! Smile


See, I knew it. So, get them lips puckered up now, gal!
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 2:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm listening to it now- come on baby light my fire- yes very modern.

You're on a different planet to me, Colin
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I like the presenter's style ( I think he's called Johnny Lewis) and the first track I heard was Easy Livin' by Uriah Heep from the album Demons and Wizards, probably my favourite artists of the 70s - took me back to the days of my youth when I used to go to the old Liverpool Stadium


There you go. My point exactly. I'm pleased you like it...... because it's good!

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I have never heard any of their stuff played on Radio 2 with the exception of their track 'The Wizard' from the same album which was once played by Ken Bruce about five years ago so I think you might have a new convert to Caroline


Woohoo! That's another shilling I've earned in commission! Smile

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The station seems to be a good mix of new stuff and older tracks including album tracks and I'll definitely listen in the future


Interestingly, my wife was listening to the station with me as we tidied up the garden shed on Saturday last and she said "I'm quite surprised. I thought today's Caroline was going to be full of 60s stuff and presented by greying old anoraks but it's actually quite good".

I should add that she loves 60s music (she can sing along to the songs) but she doesn't like what Rachel will call the "geekiness" of it all. What she found was a distinct lack of geekiness and some really good music new and old.

That's why I prefer it to Radio 2.
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I'm listening to it now- come on baby light my fire- yes very modern.

You're on a different planet to me, Colin


You haven't lstened long enough. One show features loads of bands my 27-year-old son is into (bands I've never heard of) and even he was impressed.

The difference is that if you really do want only the same old music, Radio 2 is the place you're most likely to hear it!

Now here's that snog?
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I've sent in a request for you, Colin. Maybe if they impress me, they'll get a Sony Award sometime.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 2:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sadly the technology has let them down.... oh dear...

Hi Rachel

welcome to Radio Caroline.

Hope you'll tune in again and again.

I do normally do requests, but I've a prob with the computer today, but
if you remind me next week I'll get that song on for you.

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> a friend asked me to tune in to see what I think- tis ok so far- do you do requests? If so, please - oh go on- Mess Around By Ray Charles- just for my friend Colin B....
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> Laters
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> Rachel Smile

I got a mention too. Smile then he played Meta Guru which is spooky cos that was my name on the R2 MB
>

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bqz876VkwwY
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 3:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is so frustrating! Here am I, supposed to be busy with things, and there's an interesting conversation that doesn't involve ... (directly).

I'll deal with Radio Caroline first.
The original Radio Caroline was (in comparison with what else was available at the time) everything that the present one isn't. It was bright, loud, and vibrant, and it played modern British and American pop music. A Caroline Flashback was eight years old (Heartbreak Hotel), max. Its DJs were young and lively and it appealed to everyone from age 12 to 35.

I've tried listening to the present incarnation today, in snatches. Although several DJs have been on they all sound like "Whispering" Bob Harris, without being one tenth as interesting. The music played has been: Police, Supertramp, Hoosiers, Chicago, Bowie, Joni Mitchell, Frank Zappa (stone me, I haven't heard that one for 35 years - it was carp then and it's still carp), Hazel O'Connor, Rolling Stones, Pink Floyd, David Gates, Coldplay, and, Heavens to Murgatroyd, ELO's Mr Blue Sky.

It really is hobby radio. When you said it was run on a shoestring and by volunteers, I imagined it to be, like a lot of local community radio stations, manned by young, enthusiastic, local people with something new to say and new to play amongst the old classics. Instead it's a load of people like me - middle-aged and boring. It has no life, it has no passion, above all it has no soul - in both senses of the word....

Look again at that "playlist" and at this page of the website
http://www.radiocaroline.co.uk/#profiles.html
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 3:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've just heard the presenter talking about a request from Rachel which he's going to play next week

Don't know whether that helps - no mention of a Colin though
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Never mind, rachel. It's the spirit of the operation that I like most - something which is sadly lacking in Corporate radio these days. Things go wrong but, hey, there are worse things in the world to fret about and life goes on. Doesn't it?

It's still a much better alternative to staid old Radio 2.

Oh, and by the way, thanks for the deddy. I love the music of Ray Charles. "Hard Times" is a favourite of mine, so perhaps you could ask for that one next time?

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ColinB wrote:
Never mind, rachel. It's the spirit of the operation that I like most - something which is sadly lacking in Corporate radio these days. Things go wrong but, hey, there are worse things in the world to fret about and life goes on. Doesn't it?

It's still a much better alternative to staid old Radio 2.

Oh, and by the way, thanks for the deddy. I love the music of Ray Charles. "Hard Times" is a favourite of mine, so perhaps you could ask for that one next time?

Smile


Ok.. Smile It's actually ok-ish-so far, I need more time really - I like to build up a raport with a radio show- they all seem quite old and only one woman that I could see.
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RockitRon wrote:

It really is hobby radio. When you said it was run on a shoestring and by volunteers, I imagined it to be, like a lot of local community radio stations, manned by young, enthusiastic, local people with something new to say and new to play amongst the old classics. Instead it's a load of people like me - middle-aged and boring. It has no life, it has no passion, above all it has no soul - in both senses of the word....


That really is absolute rubbish. Over a period of many weeks I've heard some fabulous stuff by a roster of artists that aren't on that list at all. I've heard stuff from bands whose music I thought I knew but realised that I didn't know after hearing some of their more obscure material on Caroline. And the station employs presenters who - in my opinion - are anything but those described above. Perhaps I've been listening for longer!

When my son, who travels far and wide to see bands I've never heard of, says that he thinks the station is "quite good" then I know that it's not that bad.

And, as I keep saying, it sure as hell beats the hell out of Radio 2, that's for sure. The fact that we can tune in at breakfast and not have to put up with Evans' incessant cackle is a major bonus, of course.
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Cool beans - Your latest trick - by Dire Straits- one of my radio show tracks...Caroline is growing on me.
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It is, as you say, Rach, OK, but for anyone to say that Radio 2 is, in comparison, staid, is ludicrous.

Why is it taking them a week to get hold of a Ray Charles track?
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RockitRon wrote:
It is, as you say, Rach, OK, but for anyone to say that Radio 2 is, in comparison, staid, is ludicrous.

Why is it taking them a week to get hold of a Ray Charles track?


Oh god yeah- it's just music and chat after all- I've heard this guy on somewhere else- can't think where though.
Radio 2 is still where it's at.

Colin's anti-evans fetish is growing into anything or anywhere that Chris Evans has been or goes or does or anything really to do with him at all-including radio 2 in its entirity, you have to remember when you read his posts that, that is what underpins everything he writes. Wink Laughing
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RockitRon wrote:
It is, as you say, Rach, OK, but for anyone to say that Radio 2 is, in comparison, staid, is ludicrous.


You've listened for, how long, an hour at most? And on a weekday afternoon? Assuming I'd never heard Radio 2 before I could listen to an hour of JV or, perhaps, Alan Carr and come to a fair summation of the station's output? No.

I generally listen for much of the weekend and sometimes at weekdays breakfast time, and the output is far superior to the rubbish on many other stations available.

RockitRon wrote:
Why is it taking them a week to get hold of a Ray Charles track?


Because, by their own admission, they're having system problems. What's the big deal? They don't have the benefit of licence-fee payers' budgets like Radio 2 does and they don't necessarily have systems engineers on call 24/7. I can live with that.

And, for much of the time, Radio 2 is indeed "staid and boring". In my opinion, of course.
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Rachel wrote:

Colin's anti-evans fetish is growing into anything or anywhere that Chris Evans has been or goes or does or anything really to do with him at all-including radio 2 in its entirity, you have to remember when you read his posts that, that is what underpins everything he writes. Wink Laughing


Gizza snog. Again.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 3:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is the best thread we've had on here for a long old time but it's not about Radio 2.

To be fair, Ron, it took Radio 2, 8 days to play the same track for me on the Breakfast Show as a Big Screen Belter.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 3:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rachel wrote:
This is the best thread we've had on here for a long old time but it's not about Radio 2.


It's no longer about Domino's Pizza Spidermen, either! Laughing

Never mind, that's social media for ya. All good innocent fun that changes very little in the big scheme of things.
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