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Danny said on his BBC London Show that he and Amy and Baylen will be sitting in for Chris Evans for two weeks in April.
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Obviously Chris didn't have an influence in this, just playing the candyman song and being his best mate 
After Feedback with Richard Madeley mentioned being the choice as Chris standin, seems to have hit the buffers and cursed the poor sod.  |
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It's just par for the course as they say
Yet another abysmal presenter standing in on the breakfast show for a marginally less dreadful presenter
Just as well there are plenty of far better things on offer elsewhere 
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| I'm quite happy about this, but it does make a mockery of Tim Davies' claim on Feedback that Chris has no say in who stands in for him. |
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| Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 10:08 pm Post subject: Re: Danny Baker To Cover Chris Evans Breakfast Show |
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| mark occomore wrote: | | Danny said on his BBC London Show that he and Aimie and Baylon will be sitting in.... |
So who are Aimee and Baylon and why will they be there?
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I like Danny Baker and will tune in
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OMG how much lower can R2 stoop?
Also why does a show need to have so many presenters? I can't stand it when they talk non stop amongst themselves 
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Sounds like a nightmare to me. No change there then!
What on earth is wrong with the Controller of R2? It just goes from bad to worse  
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| Genuinely don't get the hate here. Why is this stooping any lower than, say, Miranda Hart or Lulu? Danny's an award-winning radio presenter, has been doing it for many years, and is about the same age as the average Radio 2 listener. |
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Ian forgive me but I've only heard Danny Baker on sports so I can't imagine that I'd enjoy him first thing in the morning, too much like CE. As for the other 2, the female I've seen and again can't imagine she'd be my cup of tea.
You quote Lulu and Miranda, well I'm not a fan of Miranda and as far as I'm aware Lulu hasn't presented a breakfast show. Did she do SLSongs for Steve? I can only remember her doing a Sunday afternoon show a few years back and thought she was okay in that slot but I'd probably not enjoy her first thing.
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Lulu did stand in on Sunday Love Songs a few times and did a very competent job as I recall
I could listen to Lulu on her own at breakfast but not to any of the others mentioned
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| Helen May wrote: | | Ian forgive me but I've only heard Danny Baker on sports so I can't imagine that I'd enjoy him first thing in the morning, too much like CE. |
I never heard it but I believe he did the breakfast show on GLR (produced by Chris Evans), Radio 5 (the original) and BBC London, which was hugely successful with listeners and critics alike.
He was also first choice for Radio 2's Saturday morning slot before Jonathan Ross started, and I thought was really good when he eventually did that show during Wossy's suspension.
| Quote: | | As for the other 2, the female I've seen and again can't imagine she'd be my cup of tea. |
No, I don't know them either but I'm prepared to give them a go - I doubt they get many words in anyway!
| Quote: | | You quote Lulu and Miranda, well I'm not a fan of Miranda |
Well, no. She was pretty bad as a presenter.
| Quote: | | and as far as I'm aware Lulu hasn't presented a breakfast show. Did she do SLSongs for Steve? I can only remember her doing a Sunday afternoon show a few years back and thought she was okay in that slot but I'd probably not enjoy her first thing. |
Ah, so it's the breakfast slot that's a problem? I just picked Lulu as a random name the station seem to persist with even though she's useless wherever they put her. But I could have picked Dermot O'Leary or Jamie Cullum too.
Danny is a proper radio man and and is so passionate about his views, his music, and his desire to entertain that he puts so many other broadcasters in the shade. After so much middle-of-the-road blandness from the likes of Richard Madeley and Gary Bones I think this appointment is a step in the right direction for Radio 2. |
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No hatred of him as far as I'm concerned. I remember him on Radio 1 some years ago and didn't think much of him then, especially when he berated a listener on air who had written in (was the days before E-mail texting et al had all but taken over) asking why he never announced the tracks played. Something I hate! I won't be listening. I don't like the 'zoo format as it can seem like you're eavesdropping on poeple's conversations at it's worst. However I'm glad he seems to have overcome his recent illness.
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Ian - Do you remember how many listeners Danny Baker managed to drive away from Radio One when he took over the weekend morning show in the mid 90's
As I recall it was over 4 million - not surprising considering the man constantly waffles on about unimportant issues of no interest to most listeners whatsoever
I agree he is reasonably competent as a sports presenter and in my view that's the area of broadcasting he should stick to
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It is the breakfast slot that is the problem for me Ian. I can take Richard Madeley but as I can't stand ads on radio I tune out to internet radio or Smooth 70s until 09.30. For me it's as much the presenter as it is music on radio esprcially at that time of day.
I'm almost at the stage that I'll go to R4 for an hour or so as I do miss hearing the news before 10 am. Mind you I've read the paper by then so I could probably start reciting it back at them!
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PS I know most internet radio has ads but they don't seem as intrusive when they don't apply to you and the station I listen to does a lot of 10 in a row.
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| ruddlescat wrote: | | Ian - Do you remember how many listeners Danny Baker managed to drive away from Radio One when he took over the weekend morning show in the mid 90's |
Yes, the audience went down... but, dare I say, they shouldn't have been listening to Radio 1 anyway? As a teenager at the time really getting into music, Danny's show was a breath of fresh air - he played music I liked and engaged with me in a way that DLT had completely been unable to do. |
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Helen... I do know what you mean about the breakfast presenter. I'm not a huge fan of Evans but he has largely won me over - his show is jam-packed full of stuff to set me up for the day, but not overwhelm me as it used to. It certainly leaves me more informed than Wogan's ever did.
But Richard Madeley just made me mad for the day - you can't start off shouting at the radio (because then there's nowhere to go by the time Jeremy starts). |
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I'd be shouting at the radio or throwing it at the wall if I did listen to CE so it's safer that I don't listen!
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| Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 1:29 pm Post subject: Re: Danny Baker To Cover Chris Evans Breakfast Show |
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Cool Beans! A change is as good as a rest. |
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I only wish that the changes were for the better, but I suppose that's too much to hope for these days!
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| Lord Evan Elpuss wrote: | | I only wish that the changes were for the better, but I suppose that's too much to hope for these days! |
Even the very best becomes ordinary, if we stick with it day after day. As Phil Connors famously said on the morning of February 3rd: “Different is good”. |
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Danny's Morning Edition on the old Radio 5 was an award winning show and essential listening (for me at least). In those days Danny and Johnnie Walker were the mainstays of Radio 5 - although the fact that they had a schools broadcast sandwiched between them was a bit detrimental to the listening figures.
People forget that Danny's misguided venture on Radio One happened when R1 was going through a major identity crisis and Danny just didn't fit their required demographic. He was asked on as his star was on the up(2 time Sony Award winner) and he was available after the demise of Radio 5.
I'll certainly be making the effort to listen 
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| Danny Baker isn't a shouty broadcaster and comes across very well. He knows his music and probarly more than Chris Evans does. He's entertaining and will be very good. It does seem strange that BBC London do want to share there presenters. Vanessa Feltz is on BBC London as well as Radio 2. |
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| Fog on the Tyne wrote: | | People forget that Danny's misguided venture on Radio One happened when R1 was going through a major identity crisis and Danny just didn't fit their required demographic. He was asked on as his star was on the up(2 time Sony Award winner) and he was available after the demise of Radio 5. |
People also forget that there are many (including myself ) who had given up listening to Radio 1 ages before their so called identity crisis. That's why I and I suspect many other R2 listeners get so fed up with the R1 cast offs being foisted on them now.
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I agree that Baker was only a small part of the disastrous changes made to Radio One in the mid nineties by that idiot Matthew Bannister aided and abetted by Trevor Dann
Digressing for just a moment I think that Radio One has changed for the worse since those pre Bannister days because for example the station now has a policy of not playing any music released before 1990 which some people might say is understandable for a station targetting the under 25 generation
However if these young listeners never get to hear some of the great 60's tracks or for example Bowie or Queen and the like how are they ever going to get the rounded and fairly comprehensive knowledge of and interest in music which most of us have on here
In the late 80's Radio One was still playing some tracks from the 60's as well as the music of that day and in my view that's how a sensible music station should behave
Bannister brought in some totally talentless people in the mid nineties and why should we get stuck with them on R2 or with him for that matter 
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| ruddlescat wrote: | Digressing for just a moment I think that Radio One has changed for the worse since those pre Bannister days because for example the station now has a policy of not playing any music released before 1990 which some people might say is understandable for a station targetting the under 25 generation
However if these young listeners never get to hear some of the great 60's tracks or for example Bowie or Queen and the like how are they ever going to get the rounded and fairly comprehensive knowledge of and interest in music which most of us have on here |
This is a political decision, isn't it? By promoting themselves as the home of "new music" they leave themselves less open to attack from commercial stations (who have now moved on to attacking Radio 2). |
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I'm absolutely sure you're right Ian but they aren't really doing their young audience any favours in the long term
It's fine for them if they have a parent like me who inflicts R2 or Smooth on them everytime they get into my car or come into the kitchen because they get to hear the great pre 90's tracks and often grow to like them
My 18 year old son now frequently challenges me on DVD quiz games even on 70's and 80's music and performs quite creditably even though he has so far never beaten me but who knows - one day he might 
I feel really sorry for youngsters who don't have music mad parents like me many of whom would struggle to recognise even famous Beatles tracks simply because, without searching them out on line, they have no way of hearing them
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Never really heard Danny on the radio to be honest, but whenever I've seen him on shows he always seems to have a great love of music.
I hope he's allowed to play some stuff from various eras that's not on the dreaded playlist.
I never understand it when people say something is going to be rubbish without even giving it a chance, and I don't just mean for one day either.
I think it takes a couple of weeks to get used to someone on the radio and will listen with interest to see how the show goes. |
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I hope he's allowed to play some stuff from various eras that's not on the dreaded playlist.
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If he is allowed such freedoms. It's to be hoped that he remembers to tell his audience what they've just heard, otherwise what's the point of playing such interesting tracks?
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You all complain when comedians or television "celebrities" are given the job - Danny Baker is an experienced radio broadcaster.
Like any other daytime presenter he might get one or two tracks of his own choosing but otherwise they will come from the Radio 2 Playlist and standard cupboard of oldies. You cannot realistically expect anything else.
He's different (to Evans and Madeley). He's like Marmite - you either love him or loathe him. Vive la difference. |
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You all complain when comedians or television "celebrities" are given the job - Danny Baker is an experienced radio broadcaster.
Like any other daytime presenter he might get one or two tracks of his own choosing but otherwise they will come from the Radio 2 Playlist and standard cupboard of oldies. You cannot realistically expect anything else.
He's different (to Evans and Madeley). He's like Marmite - you either love him or loathe him. Vive la difference. |
Ron, I think we may have discovered a cluster of “the never happy with anything gene”. I’m quite certain that if Radio 2 exhumed dead DJs and put them on air, people would say, “he’s not as lively as he used to be”, or perhaps, “I won’t be listening, I can’t stand dead people!” They can’t have celebrities, they can’t have DJs who’ve worked on any other Radio Station anytime ever, they can’t have anyone off the telly, they can’t have anyone without 30 years of Broadcasting experience on Radio 2 under their belt- perhaps they should just stop Broadcasting- there is no one who qualifies. |
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To be fair...  based on posts so far, I make it 7 for and only 3 against..
8 for, if you include me..
I used to dislike the "idea" of Danny Baker a few years back because of his association with Evans and Ball but everytime I've seen him on TV lately, I quite like him!
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Whilst I won't be hanging out the bunting and toasting Danny Baker's fortnight on Radio 2. It's not quite true that I'm 'never happy with anything'. When something comes along that I like, I'm not afraid to say so. Here's an example of a thread which I started that praises one of Radio 2's more recent signings: http://r2ok.s4.bizhat.com/viewtopic.php?t=6696 If it seems that I have an 'unhappy with everything gene' then that's probably because there hasn't been much for me to cheer about Radio 2 wise in recent times, such as engaging all the presenters that make me switch over.
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Actually exhuming dead DJ's is perhaps something Bob Shennan could think about when he needs cover for shows in place of boring celebrities
It would be fantastic to have the likes of Sir Jimmy Savile,Roger Scott,Kenny Everett and Paul Burnett back even in their present state
I'm sure they could give some of the current R2 crop of useless morons a run for their money and just look on the bright side - if the plan didn't work at least we'd have a bit of peace and quiet without any shouting
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Hey Ron,
Don't start accusing us, we either like someone or we don't! I for one have never watched Danny Baker on TV (not to my knowledge anyway). Amy whatever she's called I have seen her on TV and don't like her so won't listen to her.
Maybe we don't like their style of broadcasting either. After all we don't have to like someone because others do.
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| It's not a bad idea Rudds, to make a series of new shows ( maybe six) made up of cleverly edited clips of old DJs inroducing the current playlist tracks and live continuity links, news travel etc as if it were all live. It's easily doable, time consuming but doable. Watch this space... |
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| SantaFefan wrote: | To be fair... based on posts so far, I make it 7 for and only 3 against..
8 for, if you include me.. |
Make that 8 - 4, Baker is just another gob on a stick presenter as per Evans, just a further step that Radio Two is taking in the woeful Bannister/Radio One direction. They say that history doesn't repeat itself, I'm not so sure.......
Obviously Baker is obviously an acquired taste and seems to be completely London centric, I thought he made a complete t*t of himself recently on Room 101, and have never 'got' him.
Still there is talk of the Big Breakfast coming back, one can only hope that both he and Evans could be tempted to disappear back to morning TV....
How long before Lisa I'Anson or Emma Freud will be standing in for Jeremy Vine? |
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Seriously Rach I think that idea would be wonderful
I recall many months ago on POTP instead of having Tony doing the chart rundown at the end of the show they used an archive clip of Alan 'Fluff' Freeman doing the exact chart from several years earlier and it was so atmospheric for listeners like me who had followed the show from the beginning
What you are suggesting is really just taking the principle one stage further and I for one think it would be well worth all the effort even if only as a 'one off' perhaps on April 1st
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| Helen May wrote: | Hey Ron,
Don't start accusing us, we either like someone or we don't! I for one have never watched Danny Baker on TV (not to my knowledge anyway). Amy whatever she's called I have seen her on TV and don't like her so won't listen to her.
Maybe we don't like their style of broadcasting either. After all we don't have to like someone because others do.
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And I thought I had worded the comment so carefully to ensure that, while kicking against the usual negativity, I wasn't taking sides, until we actually hear him and can judge how he adapts to and handles the Breakfast Show format. I did say that historically he's someone people either love or loathe.
| R2Icon wrote: | | It's not a bad idea Rudds, to make a series of new shows ( maybe six) made up of cleverly edited clips of old DJs inroducing the current playlist tracks and live continuity links, news travel etc as if it were all live. It's easily doable, time consuming but doable. Watch this space... |
They did one with Kenny Everett last year, was it August Bank Holiday Monday? It was a tape of one of his old shows, with some current tracks inserted as if introduced (sort of) by him, at suitable intervals |
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