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gfloyd

In BBC Two's Should I Really Give Up Flying?, Patrick Collinson gives the run down on the flying habits of some of Britain's biggest celebrities and estimates what effect the likes of Simon Cowell and the Beckhams' globe-trotting could be having on fuel emissions.He discovers their carbon footprint is a lot bigger than the rest of ours.

Simon Cowell is a big fan of the private jet and has been reported as saying he prefers them because the food and drink is better and he can smoke at 36,000 feet.

His friend and colleague, Sharon Osbourne is another star who can't resist the lure of the Lear jet. She has borrowed a jet from Simon Cowell and they head up a contingent of stars whose use of private jets has turned London into the world capital of private jets.

Over in the US, Tom Cruise is so disliked by the eco-lobby he has been dubbed "Emissions Impossible". He is reported to own three private jets – including a recent $20million purchase for wife Katie Holmes.

John Travolta once starred in a movie about bringing industrial polluters to justice. But in real life he has probably got the biggest carbon footprint of any Hollywood star. He parks his personal Boeing 707 on his front lawn – next to his three Gulfstream jets and a Lear jet. Rather appropriately, he has called his home "Jumbolair."

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Is the BBC now the Green Movement's Police Force?
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Toggy tea slurper · Guest

For heavens sake Rolling Eyes

can nobody do anything these days with some holier than thou BBC type whinging about it.

gfloyd · Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 3:46 pm Post subject:

Bruce Dickinson of Iron Maiden/ Radio 2/ 6 Music fame will also be on the "name and shame" list for his fondness for jet planes.
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Toggy tea slurper · Guest

But he isn't breaking the law is he? The BBC need to take a look at themselves in things like how many times they send up their 'news' helicopter. That is a waste of money if I ever saw one.

Cherskiy · Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 3:57 pm Post subject:

gfloyd · Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 4:01 pm Post subject:

Rachel · Guest

The thing with all of this carbon footprint nonsense is that everyone is looking for other people to blame. The Government tells us to switch off or use alternative power .. yet... there are no Government Departments that have made any serious investment into alternative power. When the government says .. ok all our hospitals, schools, prisons and government departments etc run on carbon neutral fuel (Solar, wind, etc) then they can start to preach...... It the same with recycling... oh don't get me going on that.......

The BBC: where does the power they consume, come from ...... do they know? .. ....do they care?... are they willing to invest in carbon neutral solutions to their power requirements?........ ..... "Oh but we wouldn't make much difference on our own and we'd have to put the licence fee up......" so it's better to preach

The carbon offset con........ you go on a plane journey...... plant a tree....... great !!! how cool is that?... the tree soaks up the carbon the plane you were on emitted..... fab!!!! you feel.... great! .... 20, 30 maybe 40 years later... the tree dies... ahhhhh ... all the carbon it soaked up is released........ for your children/grandchildren to deal with............. it's a carbon time bomb.

Cherskiy · Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 6:26 pm Post subject:

gfloyd · Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 7:14 pm Post subject:

I think the only way to combat climate change will be through positive incentives: give tax breaks to clean technology and R&D into innovations aimed at renewables.

But the BBC and others seem to prefer harranging everybody and making up feel bad about turning the heat up or taking a holiday.

Some of these guys are never happy unless they are miserable.
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gfloyd · Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 8:18 am Post subject:

LOL to Terry's correspondent this morning who took both barrels to this show and its "messianic and preaching old time religious qualities".

Got to laugh when told that the producers flew everywhere to make the show. If the BBC sent less people around the world they could lead by example Wink

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Rachel · Guest

and ......Gordon Brown putting up airport taxes being spun as showing his "Green Credentials" ........ what complete nonsense... Evil or Very Mad

The way to reduce carbon emissions from Aeroplanes is to stop aeroplanes from flying ...... it's no good at all, putting up prices and or taxes on air travel ...

The airlines don't care if they fly with 300 people paying £10 for a ticket or 150 people paying £20 for a ticket... the plane still flies........ makes no difference ...

You can go most places ( In Europe) by train.... last year, for example .. I packed a small weekend bag... walked to the Rail Station near my home ( under a mile) got on a train to London... changed platforms .. got on the Eurostar to Paris.... afternoon tea in Paris... underground to another station .. around 17:50 (ish) got on the overnight sleeper to Rome ( with breakfast)..... .. just after 10am the next day stepped off the train into the fantastic sunshine of Rome .. walked to my hotel past the Coliseum through ancient Rome ... spot of lunch .. bit of shopping in the afternoon.. .... sight seeing.... etc etc... next day in Rome doing much as the Romans do .. then the next day did the return journey... got back home ....... cost ( including hotel) less than a scheduled return flight with BA.... ..... and the best bit .. I never left the ground.....didn't have to queue to be searched in an airport...didn't have to take my earrings out....... didn't lose my bag ( had it with me all the time) ..... ...

when you fly to Rome..... the train to London to be there early enough for the two hour wait, along with the usual delay added to the delay getting through the airport at the other end, added to train or taxi ride into Rome from the airport( about 30 miles)... leaves you exhausted and in need of a good nights kip...... ...it's much better to arrive having just had a good nights kip.... Smile