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Helen May · Joined: 10 Dec 2006 Posts: 19335 Location: Cheshire

Radio 2 have announced that Dave Pearce will present a dance music show Saturday night 10pm - midnight starting Saturday April 14th.

Also Steve Lamacq will move to Thursday night 11pm to midnight.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/latestnews/2012/Dave-Pearce-joins-Radio-2.html

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mark occomore · Joined: 07 Dec 2006 Posts: 9955 Location: UK

I like Dave Pearce.

ruddlescat · Joined: 16 Sep 2010 Posts: 18010 Location: Near Chester

I don't

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Lord Evan Elpuss · Joined: 10 Dec 2006 Posts: 3415 Location: Cloud Cuckoo Land

If Radio 2 are going to have a tweak at Saturday evenings, I wish they had moved Bob Harris forward to at least 10:00pm. Whilst I don't have any axes to grind with Dave Pearce, I'm sure he can still be slotted in somewhere in the schedule and 'His Bobship' can be put back to a (comparitively) more accessible start time as he used to be, pre-Douglas!
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Helen May · Joined: 10 Dec 2006 Posts: 19335 Location: Cheshire

I agree with Lee, I'd much prefer to have Bob Harris on earlier than Dave Pearce.

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Ian Robinson · Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 9:49 pm Post subject:

I don't really feel Dave Pearce fits Radio 2. It's bizarre that you'll get him in virtually the same slot as David Jacobs!

Just seems the rest of the BBC that would be more suited don't want him so Radio 2 are lumbered with him instead.

mark occomore · Joined: 07 Dec 2006 Posts: 9955 Location: UK

Radio 1 is changing their schedules around and Radio 2 are bringing different shows to the station. I think it fit well on a Saturday with all ages of listeners tuning in now.

Ian Robinson · Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 12:28 pm Post subject:

mark occomore · Joined: 07 Dec 2006 Posts: 9955 Location: UK

http://www.guardian.co.uk/tv-and-radio/tvandradioblog/2012/mar/27/radio-2-radio-1-rejects?CMP=twt_gu

Shaky Fan · Joined: 11 Dec 2006 Posts: 628

DJs moving from Radio 1 to Radio 2 is hardly a new thing! T Wogan?? J Young?? Rolling Eyes

littlepieces · Joined: 10 Jan 2010 Posts: 1098 Location: Lowestoft

Agree with shaky it's gone on for ages
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Ian Robinson · Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 10:12 am Post subject:

I suppose it has, but isn't there supposed to be a bigger audience gap nowadays?

With Radio 1 aiming for younger listeners it seems like their older DJs just linger around the BBC waiting for their slot on Radio 2 to open up, and I don't think it should be like that - although I admit it's mainly because I think Pearce, Whiley and Ball are useless!

Helen May · Joined: 10 Dec 2006 Posts: 19335 Location: Cheshire

Okay so it has happened in the past but those that Shaky mentioned were IMHO and I suspect many other R2 listeners slightly more suited to R2 than those we are getting now.

I've caught a Dave Pearce a couple of times and I don't think his output is for Radio 2.

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Shaky Fan · Joined: 11 Dec 2006 Posts: 628

Helen May · Joined: 10 Dec 2006 Posts: 19335 Location: Cheshire

The older listeners won't all have died off just yet though Shaky!

I think R1 remit should be stretched to cover a slightly older age group, because just what are older listeners supposed to do? They keep saying we in general are living longer.

I was almost 30 when I first started to listen to some of R2, not all by any means but I didn't expect R2 to change for me, I actually felt R1 should have tried to keep me as a listener for longer!

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Shaky Fan · Joined: 11 Dec 2006 Posts: 628

Helen May · Joined: 10 Dec 2006 Posts: 19335 Location: Cheshire

Shaky you regularly say older listeners can switch off but just where do you expect them to go to? Just because you are older doesn't mean you start to like classical music but there is nowhere else for them to go.

Are you saying they should have to stop listening to radio altogether because there is no station that plays anything that appeals? That is why there is so much anger when Radio 2 bring in all the younger presenters or sideline 'older' presenters to late night time slots. Older listeners are, or will soon be, the the larger majority of the population so they should be catered for.

You'll be in that age group yourself at some stage and the way things are going you'll be overlooked more quickly than those a bit older just now!

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Shaky Fan · Joined: 11 Dec 2006 Posts: 628

Helen May · Joined: 10 Dec 2006 Posts: 19335 Location: Cheshire

Not everyone has the internet you know, it's a mistake that many make in thinking that.

There should be a music radio station that caters for people who like music from the 40's, and 50s and not 1 or 2 shows a week. I'm thinking of my Mum in this instance who fortunately does enjoy some classical music.

You obviously don't understand the situation so there's no point in trying to convince you!

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Shaky Fan · Joined: 11 Dec 2006 Posts: 628

Helen May · Joined: 10 Dec 2006 Posts: 19335 Location: Cheshire

There is no need to shout..............................

It's more that you don't understand what I and many people on here are saying about there being no station for listeners who like music from the 40s and 50s.

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gazmando · Joined: 15 Apr 2007 Posts: 560 Location: Huntingdon

I have to agree with Helen on this subject, Shaky Fan.
Radio 2 really should be for an older audience who like an easier listening style of music.
There are loads of stations banging out mindless dance music, chart stuff and rap music, why shouldn't the BBC cater for people who like music of a different ilk?
I've never understood the idea that an audience will die off either, I find as you get older you appreciate good music regardless of when it was made.
I didn't really get into music till the 80's as I was born in 67 but I love tunes now from the 40's onwards, music should never be segregated in my opinion.
I really like music from now as well, but all Radio 2 seem to want to play at the moment is X Factor contestants, or mainly artists that are in their 20's which don't appeal to me much.
I think Radio 2 should step back a fraction and stop forgetting that older people do enjoy music too.
Instead of playing Marcus Collins four times a day, five days a week, they could play him twice a day with maybe a Sinatra song and a song by The Jam, or a Doris Day song and a song by Donovan etc etc.
You have to give some of us who aren't teenagers something to listen to on a station which is designed to cater for us.

ruddlescat · Joined: 16 Sep 2010 Posts: 18010 Location: Near Chester

Of course there are other stations for older listeners to tune into but the vast majority are filled with very regular advertising breaks and many former Radio 2 listeners think (quite naturally) why they should have to endure the delights of commercial radio when there is an advert free station which should be catering for their needs rather than simply turning itself into a pension plan for presenters who were mediocre even in their Radio One days

I enjoy listening to The Golden Hour and the Double Top Twenty Show on Smooth but it's very noticable just how few tracks they manage to fit into one hour because of all the advert breaks

There have been some good presenters who have made the transition sucessfully in recent years including I have to agree Steve Lamacq but Dave Pearce, give me strength - I wouldn't even engage him to present at my local music pub Rolling Eyes

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ruddlescat · Joined: 16 Sep 2010 Posts: 18010 Location: Near Chester

I agree with you up to a point Ron but the fact is that it simply never has been automatic for former big named presenters on Radio One to get a slot on Radio Two

What about the likes of DLT, Simon Bates, Bruno Brookes and Gary Davies all big names and very competent presenters none of whom were ever given the chance of making the transition in the direction of Radio Two?

I don't think the whole thing has much to do with talent - it's more to do with whether the Controller happens to like you Rolling Eyes

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RockitRon · Joined: 07 Dec 2006 Posts: 7646

Well DLT and Bates fell out with management, so they were never likely to get a phone call from R2. Dunno about Brookes and Davies but I'd rather have Smashie and Nicey.

You're right that some current R1 presenters won't sit well on 2 - we're a long way yet from having the sort of music policy which Radio 1 has had for the last ten years. We've already had a taste of Trevor Nelson, Steve Lamacq, Sara Cox - they're hardly rebel rousers. Scott Mills, Reggie Yates aren't bad. Even Chris Moyles, if he could just shut up and play some music.

In ten years time I would be surprised if we don't see at least half of them on Radio 2 during the day.

SantaFefan · Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 7:44 pm Post subject:

The more I see of these "names" and, unfortunately hearing them sometimes, the less important Radio 2 gets for me.
Bland presenters and mostly bland music of today.. thank heavens for internet radio!
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ruddlescat · Joined: 16 Sep 2010 Posts: 18010 Location: Near Chester

Hopefully by then Ron the present economic crisis will be over and we might have a Radio 2 Extra - and perhaps even a Radio One Extra

Failing that I think it might turn out to be a plan to reduce the population because so many people will be topping themselves

It's a very attractive option rather than being tortured with the likes of Scott Mills or Chris Moyles Laughing

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RockitRon · Joined: 07 Dec 2006 Posts: 7646

Just in case anyone should get the wrong idea, I am quite happy with most of Radio 2's current presenters, although if I listened to JV and SW very often I would end up throwing bricks. The choice of music played is not their fault - I swear that Gary Bones was taking the pi**, really, today for an hour after Popmaster.

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ruddlescat · Joined: 16 Sep 2010 Posts: 18010 Location: Near Chester

Sorry about that - I should have remembered about Radio One Extra - it doesn't really serve the gap between Radio One and Radio Two though - from what I know I think it just plays minority rap type music which you might easily hear on Radio One anyway Sad

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unclebuck · Joined: 19 Apr 2010 Posts: 276 Location: Warwickshire

What an interesting discussion.... lot's of thoughts along the lines that I've had conversations on for years....
Basically, the conclusion seems to be that as the years go by, the remit (or target audience) for Radio 2 gets stretched into something bigger and bigger, and the struggle to cover all the bases gets more and more impossible. Radio 1 sticks to the teenagers, Radio 3 sticks to classical, and Radio 2 is left to hop around trying frantically to cover every other style of music and every other age-group. Impossible.

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Helen May · Joined: 10 Dec 2006 Posts: 19335 Location: Cheshire

Nod I don't think Gary Bones must do the music for JV these days.

A couple of weeks ago I heard JV say with a reference to the TOTP 77 shows on TV which he'd been watching, that he'd Tweeted the guy who does the music for the radio show to say 'we must play this tomorrow'. I expected to hear him say Gary but I think he said his name was Michael.

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Ian Robinson · Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 4:50 pm Post subject:

Helen May · Joined: 10 Dec 2006 Posts: 19335 Location: Cheshire

Yes he is Executive Producer as Ken says at the end of the show, but I don't expect that means he does every show's music. When I was last there he told BDG and I that JV himself had asked him to do his music.

I would guess he has other things to do since his promotion. I was only repeating what JV said a few week's ago on air.

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Schizoidman · Joined: 20 Sep 2010 Posts: 1140 Location: Rural West Sussex

I think KB's show is produced by Gary Bones and Michael Tester, at least that's what I think he announces after every Friday programme.
Hopefully Tester's tastes are a bit better than the bland, cheesy drivel chosen by Bones.

Helen: out of interest, the song JV referred to was They Shoot Horses Don't They, by Racing Cars, from February 1977.

Helen May · Joined: 10 Dec 2006 Posts: 19335 Location: Cheshire

Thanks I couldn't remember the song!

I got the impression from when I met Gary that the JV show has always had someone not from within their small team to choose the music. I suppose they concentrate on the news stories of the day.

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Ian Robinson · Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 8:56 pm Post subject: