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mark occomore
Joined: 07 Dec 2006 Posts: 9955 Location: UK
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Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 5:23 pm Post subject: Panic Fuel Buying |
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Anyone seeing any panic buying of fuel? If so don't fill up a jerry can and store it in a garage or your house. This could be a potential time bomb. Rather stupid comments Francis Maude said.  |
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ruddlescat
Joined: 16 Sep 2010 Posts: 18010 Location: Near Chester
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Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 5:38 pm Post subject: |
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It's silly for people to be panic buying when we don't know for sure that there is going to be any industrial action and even if there is the unions will have to give at least 7 days notice
As for storing fuel I believe that it is perfectly safe provided the right type of container is used - ideally metal or if not reinforced plastic specifically intended for the purpose
Storing fuel in unsuitable ordinary plastic containers is very stupid and highly dangerous and there is a legal limit on how much can be stored but there's nothing wrong with storing a few litres  _________________ Are you ready for a Ruddles?
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R2Icon
Joined: 10 Sep 2009 Posts: 1444
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Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 5:39 pm Post subject: |
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I've not seen any panic buying, it's quite difficult to stockpile petrol in your car - about 55 litres is all most cars can take.
What is dangerous about storing fuel in a container specifically designed for doing exactly that?
I could understand the “Outrage” if Francis Maude had said – fill every container you can get hold of with fuel but he didn’t, he said – fill up a Jerry Can. It’s no biggy.
Everyone’s a critic. |
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Helen May

Joined: 10 Dec 2006 Posts: 19297 Location: Cheshire
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Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 7:12 pm Post subject: |
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Well there are queues at all the local petrol station round here and many have already sold out and closed up.
I agree it's ridiculous but I think the terrible memories of the strike in 2000 has gripped the nation and people just don't want to be left with no fuel.
H _________________ 88 - 91 FM this is Radio 2 from the BBC!
I said it live on air in the studio with Jeremy Vine on 10/3/2005 |
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Shaky Fan

Joined: 11 Dec 2006 Posts: 628
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Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 7:59 pm Post subject: |
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R2Icon wrote: | I've not seen any panic buying, it's quite difficult to stockpile petrol in your car - about 55 litres is all most cars can take. |
...and you'd probably neeed to take out a second mortgage to fill the tank in any case!  |
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Toggy
Joined: 18 Aug 2008 Posts: 1239
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Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 8:12 pm Post subject: |
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Nope, not seen any panic buying around here yet.
What Maude said was probably not advisable in the circumstances but the media are not completely innocent in this are they? I would say they are the ones who have whipped up the panic buying. |
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RockitRon

Joined: 07 Dec 2006 Posts: 7646
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Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 10:15 pm Post subject: |
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There have been long queues at filling stations here since Monday morning. Half of Sainsbury's car park has even been used up, in a stacking operation.
Most people had read about the ballot on the front pages and didn't need the government's encouragement.
Petrol, sugar, toilet rolls, Tracey Islands. Some of us have seen it all before. |
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John W

Joined: 07 Dec 2006 Posts: 3367 Location: Warwickshire, UK
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Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 10:51 pm Post subject: |
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Maude is an idiot, I hope the Fire Service heads come down on him.
There's been panic buying in Coventry, one supermarket service station I went to yesterday only had diesel. _________________ -
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littlepieces

Joined: 10 Jan 2010 Posts: 1098 Location: Lowestoft
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Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 1:22 am Post subject: |
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Call me a cynic but the petrol and pasty-gate seems to have taken the cash for questions off the front page _________________ I found out how you can hurt an insect.It's the bees knees |
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Helen May

Joined: 10 Dec 2006 Posts: 19297 Location: Cheshire
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Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 10:15 am Post subject: |
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Just topped up and had to queue for 30 mins at Tesco this morning. I don't do a big mileage so should last me a while.
H _________________ 88 - 91 FM this is Radio 2 from the BBC!
I said it live on air in the studio with Jeremy Vine on 10/3/2005 |
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becky sharp

Joined: 01 Dec 2008 Posts: 6791
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Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 12:15 pm Post subject: |
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Martin Lewis has just said to forget about queueing for petrol as the strike isn't a done deal...yet.... but to stock pile up on stamps instead ...he has heard from one bride-to-be (next year) who has already bought the stamps needed for her invitations and there are stories he says on Twitter of queues for stamps in W.H.Smiths....  |
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mark occomore
Joined: 07 Dec 2006 Posts: 9955 Location: UK
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Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 5:56 pm Post subject: |
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Make sure you fill up. Buy a Cornish pasty.  |
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RockitRon

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Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 7:22 pm Post subject: |
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Where will it all end?
E.on and nPower have pulled the plug on the project to build two nuclear power stations, to replace ageing existing ones which have to be taken out of play.
Anyone buying up stocks of batteries and candles?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-17546420 |
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SantaFefan

Joined: 07 Dec 2006 Posts: 11258 Location: top of the cliffs in Norfolk
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Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 8:01 pm Post subject: |
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Here's a thought... why don't we build them... Nationalise the lot if necessary... bloody foreigners dictating to us all the time...  _________________ Johnnie Walker read out my message on Pirate Radio! 13/8/07
I have heard how radio should be. |
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ruddlescat
Joined: 16 Sep 2010 Posts: 18010 Location: Near Chester
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Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 8:08 pm Post subject: |
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I completely agree Santa  _________________ Are you ready for a Ruddles? |
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Toggy
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Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 9:12 pm Post subject: |
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So do I, we must all be Xenophobic  |
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littlepieces

Joined: 10 Jan 2010 Posts: 1098 Location: Lowestoft
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Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 10:09 am Post subject: |
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Somebody in York has 40% burns due to having fuel in her house>As far as i can gather she was transfering it from one cannister to another _________________ I found out how you can hurt an insect.It's the bees knees |
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FleetingEileenM
Joined: 30 Mar 2010 Posts: 5747 Location: Hampshire
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Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 10:19 am Post subject: |
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I assume the poor woman in York didn't realise that petrol fumes can ignite as well as the actual liquid, but it's unbelievable she was doing it in her kitchen.
I need some petrol and feel like putting a placard in my car window saying: "I am not panic-buying, I just need some petrol!" |
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ruddlescat
Joined: 16 Sep 2010 Posts: 18010 Location: Near Chester
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Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 10:20 am Post subject: |
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Whilst any injury to any person is sad really this lady does have only herself to blame
At no point did any Government Minister advise people to bring in or store petrol in their house - it should always be stored in a secure garage or outhouse which I would have thought was common sense
One only has to note the signs at filling stations asking people not to use their mobile phones to realise just how inflammable petroleum spirit can be _________________ Are you ready for a Ruddles? |
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Helen May

Joined: 10 Dec 2006 Posts: 19297 Location: Cheshire
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Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 10:26 am Post subject: |
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Very sad but as Ruddles says there are many signs about.
I know what you mean Eileen! I always top up just after I get my credit card bill in, (free credit if you pay up in full etc, etc) you feel you are at least not paying straight up for it. Daft I know!
H _________________ 88 - 91 FM this is Radio 2 from the BBC!
I said it live on air in the studio with Jeremy Vine on 10/3/2005 |
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ruddlescat
Joined: 16 Sep 2010 Posts: 18010 Location: Near Chester
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Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 10:48 am Post subject: |
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How about this for an idea Eileen
During the current period of silliness every petrol station cordons off a quarter of its pumps for panic buyers but the rest of the station carries on exactly as normal
A member of staff checks the fuel gauges of every vehicle on arrival and all vehicles with more than a quarter of a tank are forced to go into the 'hoarders' queue but those genuinely needing to fill up get priority
Now you might pose the question as to whether this idea would work as there might be a risk of supplies running out anyway but I remember from when I used to work in a petrol station during my student days that certain underground tanks are linked to certain pumps so when the 'hoarders' pumps had run dry they could quite simply be turned away without supplies to the other pumps being affected
Can anyone see any flaws in this idea?  _________________ Are you ready for a Ruddles? |
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SantaFefan

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Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 11:05 am Post subject: |
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Sounds a really good idea to me Ruddles... obviously, you'd never get a job in Government!
I need to fill up one of my Yank tanks over the weekend which itself is like a fuel storage depot but, I also need a can of juice for my mower so I'm going to feel guilty too!  _________________ Johnnie Walker read out my message on Pirate Radio! 13/8/07
I have heard how radio should be. |
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FleetingEileenM
Joined: 30 Mar 2010 Posts: 5747 Location: Hampshire
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Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 8:10 pm Post subject: |
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Yes Ruddles I like the sound of that. My local petrol stations are either empty or have long queues, even after it has been announced that there is no danger of a strike until after Easter.
My local Morrisons has put out cones to stop cars turning right at the mini roundabout into the petrol station so they all had to turn left into the supermarket car park and then either park and do the shopping or exit to join the back of the very long queue for petrol. A very sensible move on their part to keep the traffic flowing as it was chaotic yesterday for anyone simply wanting to shop. |
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RockitRon

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Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 8:17 pm Post subject: |
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The other solution appears to have been adopted by local filling stations here today - the price has jumped by 8p a litre.
Coming home from the city tonight I noticed they were still quite busy, but the queues have evaporated. |
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becky sharp

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Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 7:30 am Post subject: |
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littlepieces

Joined: 10 Jan 2010 Posts: 1098 Location: Lowestoft
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Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 8:53 am Post subject: |
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Luv it  _________________ I found out how you can hurt an insect.It's the bees knees |
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Shaky Fan

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Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 11:36 am Post subject: |
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It seems to be just England and Scotland that are panicking! According to the news story here the other night in Wales and Northern Ireland it's business as usual. |
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ruddlescat
Joined: 16 Sep 2010 Posts: 18010 Location: Near Chester
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Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 12:04 pm Post subject: |
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A few miles up the road from here in North Wales most supermarkets and garages have completely run out of diesel and I was talking to someone in Cardiff last night who told me there are similar problems there
From what I know of Northern Ireland I think it's a slightly different market as some people cross the border to fill up depending on whether fuel is cheaper in Sterling or Euros and I would guess that goes on regularly - crisis or no crisis _________________ Are you ready for a Ruddles? |
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littlepieces

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Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 12:41 pm Post subject: |
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BP are charging £1'46 and right opp Asda are charging £1.38 a litre but both were empty this morning here in Lowestoft _________________ I found out how you can hurt an insect.It's the bees knees |
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