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PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 11:09 pm    Post subject: The Daily Express Reply with quote

is now telling us that Diana wanted Kevin Costner as her bodyguard.This newspaper like the rest of them is losing readers left right and centre and with crap like this is it a surprise? Moan over have a nice Thursday
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 10:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Little Pieces

I was just thinking how bad our paper was this morning Sad Getting worse by the week!

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 10:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't understand why daily newspapers still exist when these days everyone can get wall to wall news over and over again both on line and on several dedicated TV channels

I can see the point of local papers though many are struggling at present

National newspapers are simply a convenient device for making their owners money usually by peddling lies and breaking the law as we all now know from the recent Murdoch revelations

And so called quality broadsheets often aren't all that much better - they just have more subtle and clever methods to cover up their misdemeanours
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 11:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lots of older people ( like my mum-in-law), Rudds, don't have the internet or any electronic devices,and she complains that news channels like BBC News24 repeat the same 4 or 5 news items every ten minutes or so. She likes to read stuff- she's old fashioned- she has the paper delivered by a small boy with a huge bag of papers - she lives in the 1950s and refuses to budge. As long as there's people like her alive- newspapers will still sell, whatever is in them. The trouble is, she is from an era when newspapers had proper journalists writing the truth about proper news items- she trusts what is written- she reads the Daily Mail - she's terrified to go out.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 11:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is still something about actually reading a newspaper that I still enjoy. In depth articles etc and I don't particularly enjoy reading news on a computer. Some are more like magazines.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 11:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Helen May wrote:
There is still something about actually reading a newspaper that I still enjoy. In depth articles etc and I don't particularly enjoy reading news on a computer. Some are more like magazines.

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Me too, give me the Times and a cup of coffee and I'm happy for hours.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 11:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I completely agree about the annoying practice of 24 hour news channels constantly repeating the same headlines over and over again - and it also happens with things like Sky Sports News

It begs the question as to whether we really need all these so called 'news' channels - I get rather irritated by the regular caption which mentions 'breaking news' which usually refers these days to some minor world event not worthy of mention on the main news bulletins

Years ago before these channels existed broadcasters simply used to interrupt the normal programmes for anything which was a real newsflash such as the likes of when Kennedy was assassinated or Margaret Thatcher resigned and viewers were totally up to date with events without the cost of the likes of News 24

I can certainly see why older people like your mum in law Rach prefer how things used to be but of course in those days national newspapers had a lot better standard of ethics and morals compared to the position today Sad
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 12:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I enjoy my daily session with the newspaper (Telegraph for me). It's more relaxing than watching TV news channels because at least I can skim over or completely ignore anything which doesn't interest me.

Some of the long in-depth articles are well worth reading and the "Torygraph" as some people like to call it is not averse to strong criticism of our current leaders. The crosswords and other puzzles are very good as well.

I only turn to on-line news if there is a situation important to me which is developing quickly e.g the Indonesian earthquake which for a while anyway was possibly going to cause a tsunami in Thailand where I have family.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 2:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Daily Express has always been obsessed with Diana. Sometimes I really think it cannot accept that the lady is dead.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 2:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I still prefer to read a "proper" newspaper - the online versions seem to skim over the news and specialise only in celebrity gossip and the trivial, obscure, and what they call viral stories.
I also get the Daily Telegraph - it's delivered before 8am by a girl in high-vis gear on a bicycle (except on Saturday, when the papers are so full of supplements and advertising chaff that she needs an artic or fork-lift truck but has to make to with her granny's shopping trolley). I'm not sure that "Torygraph" is still an appropriate handle because it has had the knives into the present government since day one. The Barclay Brothers seem to be anti-everything and everyone, especially foreigners - the paper shares or borrows far too many of those xenophobic news stories with or from the Mail.

ruddlescat wrote:
I can certainly see why older people like your mum in law Rach prefer how things used to be but of course in those days national newspapers had a lot better standard of ethics and morals compared to the position today

I'm not sure that that is entirely true either, just the way we tend to look back through rose-coloured spectacles. The Duke of Edinburgh was not the first to voice the opinion (in 1962) that the Express (and other popular titles) was "a bloody awful newspaper".
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 2:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's a world of difference between the opinion of the Duke expressed 50 years ago about the quality of a certain newspaper and what we have 50 years later - phone hacking, blatent lies,bribing police officers and public officials and often conducting vendettas against totally innocent people

The two situations are simply not comparable Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 3:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I grew up with newspapers and you can't beat a mug of coffee going through it.I admit my politics are left of centre so if and when i do read one now its The independent or Guardian but they like the rest push their agenda's on you.
As for rolling news i will watch if there is a big story going on and catch it if i'm in mood but do tend to get most of my news from the webb.
Also agree about what somebody says above my dad is 74 and buys a paper every day(irony of ironies it's the Express)but he claims it's for the sport
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 3:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ruddlescat wrote:
There's a world of difference between the opinion of the Duke expressed 50 years ago about the quality of a certain newspaper and what we have 50 years later - phone hacking, blatent lies,bribing police officers and public officials and often conducting vendettas against totally innocent people

The two situations are simply not comparable Rolling Eyes


But a lot of that could well have been going on 50 years ago.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well Ron there seems a fundamental flaw in your argument - no mobile phones back in 1962 Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 10:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, Ruddles, I didn't say all, but in any case it was perfectly possible, though just as illegal, as it is today, to "tap" someone's landline.

The point of my argument was that I didn't think that journalistic standards, methods and ethics were that much better 50 years ago than they are today.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 9:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes Ron - I was just teasing a little but even so I really don't see how anyone can seriously suggest that journalistic standards are the same today as 50 years ago

Journalism after all is just a part of life and certainly ordinary moral standards have gone downhill a very great deal since the early 60's in virtually all areas of life so it would be most odd if journalism by some divine miracle had escaped the total moral decline on which it was reporting

And of course Mr Murdoch and the Sun weren't around in the 60's - happy days Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 5:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My girlfriend's posh family were aways reading newspapers back in the 70s.. "wouldn't it be nice if after we're married, we'd sit down to breakfast and read all the newspapers"...

"No" was my reply.

Now I'm 59 it's different, I have my breakfast laying down - in bed and yep, I still don't read any newspapers, never have.
Maybe I'm missing out but the older I get, the more I feel like I've heard it all before... and really, in general terms, how does it effect me?
I have an old mate, known him since the 50s, a retired school teacher. He's always banging on about "did you read this", "they reckon that","global warming" "price of petrol" "bankers".... Rolling Eyes
Heavy stuff yes, but at 59? I don't care... there will always be winners and losers and the world will keep turning and people will make lots of money... "they will get over it - what ever the problem is" I say to him.
Life is short, very short, I can live without reading about bent politicians, bonuses and Simon Cowell and all the other drongo celebs.

And, my type of news would be interesting, like what's happening to the wreck of the Concordia? how are they going to shift it and what'll happen to it? Now that is interesting...
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The figures came out for newspaper sales today The Sunday Sun has lost eight hundred thousand since its launch.The one i noticed was that since Richard Desmond took over the daily express has lost half a million.

Saying that all papers have taken a hit
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