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mark occomore



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 5:24 am    Post subject: Heathrow Expansion Reply with quote

Tim Yeo has called on David Cameron to be a man or mouse over the Heathrow expansion to build a third runaway.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/aviation/9502284/Heathrow-expansion-Cameron-must-decide-whether-he-is-man-or-mouse.html

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I believe that property and land has already been signed and agreed? The reason is they have already spent millions on these plans. The diggers will move in with in five years. The UK needs to catch up with infrastructure - Transport, Airport expansion, and New Towns as we are lacking behind other countries.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 7:48 am    Post subject: Re: Heathrow Expansion Reply with quote

mark occomore wrote:
The UK needs to catch up with infrastructure - Transport, Airport expansion, and New Towns as we are lacking behind other countries.


The Uk needs to concrete over the whole of the south east. That way planes will be able to take off and land from wherever they like and the congestion on the M25 will cease to be. It's so simple I don't know why I didn't think of it. Oh, hang on, I just did.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 8:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There must be different rules in Parliament. If I, when I worked for the local NHS Trust, had contacted the press and asked whether a named senior manager was a man or a mouse, I'd have been looking for another job pretty quickly.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The problem with DC is that he's spent too much time with Nick Clegg: DC like NC, now has a different policy on everything depending on who he is talking to and which day of the week it is. Spineless pathetic excuses for politicians- no one has any balls anymore.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 7:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree Rach - Cameron is an embarrasment to both his party and the country - we need a change of leader before the next election and hopefully it will be David Davis rather than good old Boris although I do have a soft spot for him but I won't elaborate further at this stage Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 8:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a soft spot for Cameron, quick sand.

Have to agree, he is spineless and the Tories are in for a hiding at the next general Election unless they change their leader.
The thought of Prime Minster Miliband doesn't exactly look appealing either though does it? Shocked
Not a very good choice to be faced with at the ballot box. Sad
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 8:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What I find annoying about Cameron is that he claims to be against PR in General Elections but yet when he became Tory Leader it was under a system of PR and if the election had been on a 'first past the post' basis David Davis would have won by a huge majority

Cameron reminds me of Blair far too much Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 8:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ruddlescat wrote:
Cameron reminds me of Blair far too much Evil or Very Mad


Trouble is that Cameron isn't anywhere near as clever as Blair, and that's the Tories' problem.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 8:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think he certainly models himself on Blair but makes a terrible job of it, not that Blair was that good at being Blair.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 8:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Toggy wrote:
I think he certainly models himself on Blair but makes a terrible job of it, not that Blair was that good at being Blair.


Quite right - Blair was more like B liar Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 9:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep! it's been a number of years since we've had a decent prime minister, I don't think we've really had one since I've been eligible to vote. Sad
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 9:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ruddlescat wrote:
Quite right - Blair was more like B liar Smile


That's very old now, Ruddles!
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 9:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know that Colin - but the point is it will stick because it's true Smile
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 6:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

David Cameron and Nick Clegg could set up an Independent Commission for the Heathrow expansion. The commission could look at a possible 3rd Runway with 6th terminal, or RAF Northolt and possible train link between Heathrow. If the commission recommends expansion then Cameron could do a U turn.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 10:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mark occomore wrote:
If the commission recommends expansion then Cameron could do a U turn.


Cameron WILL do a u-turn. He's been practising enough and it's what he's good at.
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John W



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 10:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, it's bound to happen.

Better than spending 50 billion flattening acres of Berkshire or Oxfordshire.....

..... which would also need a rail link which would not look good side by side with the HS2 to Birmingham....

.... mind you I don't think THAT 30 billion nonsense will see the light of day either, and I'm a NIMBY with that one as I drive, eat and drink around Kenilworth and Berkswell every week and don't want that ruined Razz
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 10:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can you make sure it's not in my back yard either, John. Anywhere else is fine.

If we had a runway in Milton Keynes it would have to have a roundabout half way along it and one at each end. That might confuse the pilots somewhat.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 12:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ColinB wrote:
If we had a runway in Milton Keynes it would have to have a roundabout half way along it and one at each end. That might confuse the pilots somewhat.

Not to mention traffic 'calming' measures!
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 2:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

John W wrote:
Yeah, it's bound to happen.

Better than spending 50 billion flattening acres of Berkshire or Oxfordshire.....

..... which would also need a rail link which would not look good side by side with the HS2 to Birmingham....

.... mind you I don't think THAT 30 billion nonsense will see the light of day either, and I'm a NIMBY with that one as I drive, eat and drink around Kenilworth and Berkswell every week and don't want that ruined Razz


Yes it will happen. It doesn't matter how many back bencher's or MP's disagree with the proposals. We don't want to fall behind other countries. Our Infrastructure has been behind for years through all Governments. They just keep building houses and no new towns.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 3:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mark occomore wrote:
Yes it will happen. It doesn't matter how many back bencher's or MP's disagree with the proposals. We don't want to fall behind other countries. Our Infrastructure has been behind for years through all Governments. They just keep building houses and no new towns.


You're confusing issues here. You say it will happen irrespective of the wishes of backbenchers "or MPs" (aren't backbenchers MPs?) but any Acts of Parliament must be passed by a Commons majority, so those who disagree with any proposals obviously do count, don't they?

Secondly, an adequately serving "infrastructure" implies effective management of resources and not just throwing more resources at such a problem.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 7:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mark occomore wrote:
They just keep building houses and no new towns.


Why do we need any new towns? IMO there are quite enough towns already. What we need is better, affordable & more efficient public transport but there is more chance of hell freezing over than that occurring.
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