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R2ok Straw poll - who would you vote for?

 
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If there was a general election next week who would you vote for
Conservative
16%
 16%  [ 3 ]
Labour
27%
 27%  [ 5 ]
Liberal
5%
 5%  [ 1 ]
UKIP
22%
 22%  [ 4 ]
Green
16%
 16%  [ 3 ]
Loony
5%
 5%  [ 1 ]
Respect
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
BNP
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
Other
5%
 5%  [ 1 ]
Would not vote
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
Total Votes : 18

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Toggy



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 8:14 pm    Post subject: R2ok Straw poll - who would you vote for? Reply with quote

Please do not feel obliged to state who you would (or wouldn't) vote for, just interested really.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2012 9:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Going by what I see after voting, I'm a bit worried about some of my fellow posters.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2012 7:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

At least nobody has voted for the BNP.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2012 8:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wonder who voted for the Monster Raving Loony Party? Smile

It hasn't been the same since Lord Sutch died. I once did a video interview with the late Jim Marshall (he of Marshall Amps) who knew David Sutch well and Jim told me that although Sutch was a complete nutter on stage, he was dead serious about his political party which was born in the 60s even though the media portrayed the opposite. I can believe that!
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2012 9:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes I wonder who that could have been Laughing

Although Lord Sutch appeared to be very outgoing and flamboyant in public he suffered with depression on and off for some years, very very sad how he met his end.
Still very much missed by many people in the Monster Raving Loony Party but fondly remembered too.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2012 9:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Voted Green it won't happen but sick of the main paties
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 3:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well - I know who I voted for.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 8:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mark occomore wrote:
Well - I know who I voted for.


Are you sure?
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 12:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ColinB wrote:
mark occomore wrote:
Well - I know who I voted for.


Are you sure?


Absolutely positive.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 12:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mark occomore wrote:
ColinB wrote:
mark occomore wrote:
Well - I know who I voted for.


Are you sure?


Absolutely positive.


I'm glad about that - because if you didn't know then there would be no chance of anyone else knowing!!! Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 2:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well at least we have a mixed bunch on here
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ColinB wrote:
mark occomore wrote:
ColinB wrote:
mark occomore wrote:
Well - I know who I voted for.


Are you sure?


Absolutely positive.


I'm glad about that - because if you didn't know then there would be no chance of anyone else knowing!!! Smile


I'm not telling. Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 5:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Blimey - UKIP in the lead. Gawd help Britain if this one-policy party ever achieved a Commons majority!
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 7:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This present administration need to pull their socks up - or some will vote for other parties, but they won't have a hope in hell getting too Number 10. It's to soon too cast any vote if it will be blue or red next time..
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 7:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ColinB wrote:
Blimey - UKIP in the lead. Gawd help Britain if this one-policy party ever achieved a Commons majority!


They'd be lucky to get an MP never mind a majority. That said I'm actually not surprised to see them ahead as they seem to be gaining a bit of traction in some areas.
One of their problems is they are seen by most as a one issue party one man band. I think Farage is charismatic and politics aside he is a fantastic speaker.

I do agree with Mark though, I think more people will vote for the smaller parties as many are fed up of false promises.
The outcome will likely be Labour back in at the next GE.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 8:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ColinB wrote:
Blimey - UKIP in the lead. Gawd help Britain if this one-policy party ever achieved a Commons majority!


I don't agree that UKIP is a one policy party

What they do have the sense to realise however is that we currently have very little control over laws and policies affecting our country and the vast majority of these things are dictated by Brussels

Withdraw from the EU and then lots of things become possible and that's the time to make a start on getting Britain back to being a proper democracy

I'm a Conservative voter but as long as Cameron remains as leader I would vote UKIP mainly because he insists on imposing cuts on the most vulnerable people in Britain but at the same time delights in giving our money away in excessive foreign aid Evil or Very Mad

In my view charity begins at home and I will not support any party in the present climate which fails to put the interests of the British people first Sad
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 9:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

True UKIP have other polices but due to the way they present themselves many are not aware of this and the perception is (perhaps unfairly) that they are a one issue party.
Personally I mostly agree with their stance on the EU but have to say some of their other polices come across as somewhat bigoted and it strikes me they are a reactionary party who just say what they think people want to hear.

As for the Tories, they will get thrashed at the next election, the Lib Dems are a dead duck, Labour will win comfortably.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ruddlescat wrote:
ColinB wrote:
Blimey - UKIP in the lead. Gawd help Britain if this one-policy party ever achieved a Commons majority!


I don't agree that UKIP is a one policy party


I do, and I'm sticking to my view. If they have any more workable and realistic policies regarding the day-to-day management of UK PLC then they're bloody useless at communicating information about them to the great British public!
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 7:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ColinB wrote:
If they have any more workable and realistic policies regarding the day-to-day management of UK PLC then they're bloody useless at communicating information about them to the great British public!


Well that is exactly the problem I was alluding to, their supporters on twitter will tell you they have plenty of other polices but won't say what they are. Laughing They merely tell you to "look at the website" not terribly helpful.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 6:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Remembering Boris Johnson isn't an MP yet. If he was to stand as a leadership against David Cameron for the Tories - he could have a 6 point bounce and wipe Labour out. He's had a couple of PA disasters during the Olympics 1. Hanging from a zip wire 2. dancing..

Would you like Boris as the next PM?
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 6:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If there was a by election and Boris stood he'd walk it, everybody including Cameron knows that.
I thought he came out of the olympics pretty well, the zip wire thing actually gained him more supporters, but yes dancing to the spice girls probably lost them all again Laughing
Cameron was the one who got no 'bounce' from the olympics, not helped by set up PR photos of him supposedly watching certain events, I think those acatully done him more harm than good.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 8:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Boris is the next Prime Minister of the UK .... put a bet on now before the odds drop through the floor.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 9:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

R2Icon wrote:
Boris is the next Prime Minister of the UK .... put a bet on now before the odds drop through the floor.


I think you may well be right there. There's no doubt he's started his pitch already.

The phrase "heaven help us" comes to mind, of course! Smile
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 3:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hope he resists the temptation, and all the current encouragement (goading, even) by the media.

As Mayor of London, he's been the right chap in the right place at the right time, as ringmaster for the Olympics circus - just imagine how dull and dreary the atmosphere in London would have been had it been Ken Livingstone.

Leader of the party, or even PM, is quite a different cup of meat.
Boris is undoubtedly very clever - he writes well (if you ignore the embarassing excursion into bawdy political fiction) and a lot of it is common sense. However, his tongue tends to run away with his brain before it has had time to engage second gear, and, funny though he may be, it would get him, and us, into a heap of trouble.

If he did manage to curb his natural style, it would be like restraining the family pooch - all the fun would be lost, for both him and us.

The road is littered with larger-than-life "celebrities" who have been frustrated (neutered, to continue the canine imagery) in their political careers - Glenda Jackson, Gyles Brandreth, Clement Freud spring instantly to mind. Some don't even get that far, despite vociferous encouragement from the press and public - Jimmy Edwards, Robin Day, Esther Rantzen.

No, Boris is better off out of Parliament, government and Downing Street. He's much better value seen and heard, not muzzled.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 3:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For me, his best public service role has been to guest-present "Have I Got News For You". That's what he does best!
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 9:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As I may have mentioned before I met Boris when he was Conservative candidate for Wrexham in the early 1990s

He struck me as very approachable and willing to listen to the views of others

Whilst he wouldn't be my first choice for Conservative party leader or PM I much prefer him to Cameron and if he becomes leader in due course then I would vote for him Smile
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 10:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ruddlescat wrote:
Whilst he wouldn't be my first choice for Conservative party leader or PM I much prefer him to Cameron and if he becomes leader in due course then I would vote for him Smile


...assuming you were in a position to vote in the constituency in which he stood, of course.

Personally, I think he'd be a useless leader.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 10:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mark: why were 'hanging from a zipwire', and 'dancing' (albeit to The Spice Girls), a 'disaster' Question
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 11:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ColinB wrote:
ruddlescat wrote:
Whilst he wouldn't be my first choice for Conservative party leader or PM I much prefer him to Cameron and if he becomes leader in due course then I would vote for him Smile


...assuming you were in a position to vote in the constituency in which he stood, of course.

Personally, I think he'd be a useless leader.


No Colin - if he stood for the leadership I could vote for him as a member of the Conservative Party

Strictly speaking he doesn't have to become a MP - after all we all recall the days back in 1964 when Sir Alec Douglas Home was Prime Minister for a fairly short time Rolling Eyes

I think that people underestimate the political astuteness of Boris and I'm fairly sure that when Cameron does yet another U Turn on the issue of Heathrow and Zac Goldsmith resigns causing a By Election then Boris will seize his chance Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 3:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am going to stick my neck out and say labour will get in.Boris still backed the police in 07 and told liverpudlians to stop being cry babies over the tragic events in 96.He is just another toff in my eyes and if he does become PM then i will bugger off to Family in America or Ireland
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 8:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ruddlescat wrote:
No Colin - if he stood for the leadership I could vote for him as a member of the Conservative Party


Ah, I see!

ruddlescat wrote:
Strictly speaking he doesn't have to become a MP - after all we all recall the days back in 1964 when Sir Alec Douglas Home was Prime Minister for a fairly short time Rolling Eyes


I remember it well. What a farce that was!

ruddlescat wrote:
I think that people underestimate the political astuteness of Boris and I'm fairly sure that when Cameron does yet another U Turn on the issue of Heathrow and Zac Goldsmith resigns causing a By Election then Boris will seize his chance Smile


I'm sure you're right - the writing's on the wall already.

That said, I've had enough of public-schoolboy twits at the helm and Boris, with his bungling, off-the-cuff way of communicating, would soon become a laughing stock as PM - both at home and abroad.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 8:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I know what you're saying Colin and I don't disagree with your comments

As everyone knows I would much prefer to see David Davis as Party Leader and PM but all I'm saying is that Boris is nowhere near as bad as Cameron Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 10:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They're both former public school toffs who were born with silver spoons in their mouths and, as far as I'm concerned, both of them represent the unacceptable face of Conservatism. And don't get me started on that clueless idiot George Osborne!
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 11:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My word Colin you're almost beginning to out Thatcher our esteemed former Prime Minister

She used to hate public school educated politicians and I recall on many occasions that the late Peter Morrison who was a good friend of mine for many years as well as being the Member of Parliament for Chester and in later years Maggie's Parliamentary Private Secretary used to tell me that he would never get very far in politics in that era because he was Eton educated whereas he thought that I (being Grammar School educated) would go much further than him if I choose to dip my toe in the water

I didn't mainly because I was too busy with other things but I still sometimes wonder whether I should have taken his advice - after all I could probably have retired on my Parliamentary expenses by now Smile
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