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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 6:57 am    Post subject: Compassionate Sick Leave for Pet Owners Reply with quote

An item on 'Breakfast' this morning suggested some companies are considering allowing employees time off to look after ill pets, and even compassionate leave if they die.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 8:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would like to see that brought in.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 1:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

An item on 'Breakfast' this morning suggested some companies are considering allowing employees time off to look after ill pets, and even compassionate leave if they die.
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I'm not against this in principle but can you imagine the potential for it to be abused?

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 3:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The death charter : Twisted Evil

Hamster....one week off
Cat/Dog....two weeks off
Horse...One month off
Goldfish...Six Months on full pay.

Sounds very compassionate to me. Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 4:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One of my colleagues said he was going to call into the pet shop on the way home and ask if they had any gerbils that were on their last legs - he's used up his annual leave allocation and can't wait until March.... Shocked Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 8:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Employee: My parrot is dead.

Gaffer: No no he's not dead, he's restin. Get your butt in NOW
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 11:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Toggy tea slurper wrote:
I would like to see that brought in.


so would I
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 12:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Julia wrote:
Toggy tea slurper wrote:
I would like to see that brought in.


so would I


Ah, but where do you draw the line, Julia? Which pets would you allow leave for, and which ones wouldn't you? Would a goldfish be classed the same as a dog, for instance? Or a gerbil?

Some might say taking time off to look after a sick child is more important, yet some companies don't even allow their employees sick or compassionate leave for that reason, never mind looking after a sick pet.

Would you have to take your pet to the vets and then produce a bill from them to prove your animal had been sick, if the illness goes on for longer than a normal self-certification period? Would you expect Statutory Sick Pay or would you accept a cut in pay for absence, as many employers (my own included) pay you whether you are absent or not.

Quite frankly, I can't see many businesses taking this onboard (especially smaller ones, which can be cripped financially by normal human absence), unless they're really desperate to hang onto key staff.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had to fight tooth and nail for compassionate leave when my aunt died. Because she wasn't classed as 'immediate family' (even though I tried to explain that she'd brought me up since the age of 3 and my only living relative, she was more like my mother)
So I'll be damned if I can agree with someone taking time off because the the rabbit has a cold.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 7:20 pm    Post subject: Re: Compassionate Sick Leave for Pet Owners Reply with quote

Cherskiy wrote:
An item on 'Breakfast' this morning suggested some companies are considering allowing employees time off to look after ill pets, and even compassionate leave if they die.



Was this whilst Terry was eating bacon for breakfast? He will be off for the next week now. Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 8:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can only speak using dogs as an example.
My dogs mean everything to me and in the past, I've been devastated when one has died.
When I worked for architects, one of our Newfoundlands fell seriously ill after an operation and died a few days later.
I was so upset I didn't return to work until over a week later, despite a "warning" from my boss. it really didn't matter to me at the time.
I believe that some, maybe most dog owners regard their dogs as family and that incurs all the heartache that goes with it...

so yes, I agree.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 9:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SantaFefan wrote:
I believe that some, maybe most dog owners regard their dogs as family and that incurs all the heartache that goes with it...

so yes, I agree.


I'm sure, SantaFeFan, and that no doubt goes for the majority of pet owners - and whilst I've got some sympathy for your predicament, I can't see a whole host of bosses lining up to take this on. In my experience (as a first aider in the workplace) it's often difficult to get them to accept human ailments, never mind animal ones.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 9:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can't you grieve for your pet whilst still attending work? Surely it is best to keep occupied during times like this.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 3:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Again, speaking personally and not trying to upset cat owners in particular, dogs to me are extra special if that makes sense.

My dogs ( I have two Newfs now ) are a very big part of my life not having kids or much in the way of family either.

I would spend anything on them, go to any length to save them in a disaster such as a fire and have as much love for them as much as I would for any family member or friend. ( think what you want of that )

So yes, when she died back then I was wrecked, as when my dad died. I hated the world and everything in it.
I wanted to be on my own and work was the last thing on my mind.

I can accept that it isn't possible for others to take that line however...
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 3:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My wife and I employ about 33 people and I have to say in all honesty that if somebody's pet dog died and they were genuinely distraught and wanted a few days off I wouldn't object.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 3:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Our dogs have always been part of the family, we recently lost our Jack Russell/Corgy cross after 17 years. We were very upset, I went to work as normal and found that it actually helped being at work. Having also had a close family bereavement, recently, it is not quite the same thing,IMHO, both very upsetting though. I think the worst thing is the total inability to be able to do anything, just feeling useless and out of control.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 5:13 pm    Post subject: Compassionate leave Reply with quote

When my first cat had to be put to sleep 8 years ago, it was on a Saturday. I was in work as usual on the Monday and still a bit upset, so had a photo of Dinah on the front of my PC. One of the staff came in, looked at the pic and said 'Ooh goody, lunch' I just burst into tears, he was such an insensitive twit.

I feel the same as others who love their pets, but if I were still working at that place I would have to take my annual leave even if a parent or child died. One of the managers had to take leave when her mum passed away, but the director had a month off on comp. leave. One rule for them and stuff the staff!
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 5:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The difference between a pet and a human dying is that obviously you dont need time off to deal with their affairs such as their will or handling their personal effects.
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