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Lady Boil De Spudswell · Joined: 12 Dec 2006 Posts: 429 Location: Location, Location

Now, I don't mind Sarah, but is it really her place to cut a song short simply because she doesn't like it, as she vehemently proclaimed this morning? (Dawn Patrol 31.01.07)

Sure the new Beyonce song has a fair amount of shrieking in it, but isn't it up to us to turn the radio down or off for a few minutes to avoid it rather than be la Kennedy's decision?

I personally wouldn't have minded hearing it in full to judge for myself, but I wasn't given the opportunity.

NB: What is she going to do when it next appears on her playlist. Likely as not on Friday?
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nod · Joined: 24 Dec 2006 Posts: 3558

I think she was right, it was awful Very Happy

John W · Joined: 07 Dec 2006 Posts: 3367 Location: Warwickshire, UK

Yeah, I'm with Sarah. It's not an early morning song for people who are not morning persons. Surely presenters should have a say - she has played it once (partly) and that should be it; never play it again Sarah - no doubt Steve Wright will make up for it.

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RockitRon · Joined: 07 Dec 2006 Posts: 7646

I commented on this earlier today on the Beyonce thread in the Music topic, and I have to agree it's an awful noise, especially that hour of the morning, and she was right to complain about it. I don't know the running time of the track, but we certainly got our three and a half minutes worth, and if it had been the afternoon presenters I daresay they'd have talked over more of it than she cut short.

Apparently Terry Wogan played it yesterday morning - I didn't hear what he made of it but I can imagine. Having heard him once curtail an uncharacteristically loud and unmusical track by Raul Malo I suspect he might be tempted to do the same with Ms Knowles.
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MadeinSurrey · Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 8:59 am Post subject:

I have just "listened again" to the "offence" in question: I completely agree with Sarah, the "song" is awful and has no place on the Dawn Patrol. It's bad enough having "shouters" like Brand, Evans & Ross on R2, we can do without "Beyondsay" joining in!

More power to SK, keep this rubbish off our radio!
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I can understand presenters wanting to influence the choice of music played on their show. Nothing wrong with that! It would make for a better show though, to put the time in up-front, before the show starts, and have some clue about what music is being played on the show before getting half way through a track being played on air, and then deciding that it just won't do, cos really that, just won't do.

Lord Evan Elpuss · Joined: 10 Dec 2006 Posts: 3417 Location: Cloud Cuckoo Land

This is not a new phenomenon. I heard Mark Radcliffe do the same thing a couple of nights ago. I can also remember Johnnie Walker doing it on Drivetime when he didn't want to play something he wasn't keen on.

Ian Robinson · Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 10:24 am Post subject:

I remember Ken Bruce once stopping a track on that week's Album of the Week, and audibly chucking the whole CD into the bin! He never played it again, and it was only wednesday.

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The song, for want of a better word, would be better suited to Radio 1. Strangely, it is absent from all three of their playlists Question

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Behind Geddon's Wall · Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 11:17 am Post subject:

Ron, thats probably because it's from a musical.
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Firefly · Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 1:09 pm Post subject:

I have no problem with what she did, it shouldn't have got through onto anyone's playlist - it was drivel
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Rachel · Guest

I'm really quite disappointed with the responses on this thread. It seems; that it's "OK" for a presenter to behave badly, as long as you agree with the end result. Does that mean you would all be as supportive of any presenter who just decided on a whim to rip a track off air and say how awful it was? What if it were, for example, a request a listener had asked for, or it just happened to be your favourite track?......

Would you find SK not guilty, if she deliberately shot someone you didn't like? Jury Service anyone? I hope not.

nod · Joined: 24 Dec 2006 Posts: 3558

This is a bit like politicians, does an MP act for him/herself (and his/her constituents) or the party ?

Do we listen to R2 for it's image and corporate policy or the individuals ?

One reason I don't agree with the Playlist is it forces the presenter to play records they may not like and removes their input or character, you may as well just get a machine to play the records.

MadeinSurrey · Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 3:05 pm Post subject:

I'm getting a little tired of Rachel's sniping at SK. She obviously doesn't like her, so why does she listen? Anybody with an ounce of taste would agree that BeGoneSay's track is pants, and besides, Sarah is there for her inimitable take on life, not to spend hours listening to everything that she will be forced to play.
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Lady Boil De Spudswell · Joined: 12 Dec 2006 Posts: 429 Location: Location, Location

I would LOVE Danny to be allowed to cover one daytime show and play the music he plays on London. Irrespective of what you think about him I am pretty sure not one single R2 listener would complain about the wonderfully eclectic, yet accessible Beyonce-free playlist he chooses.

Why can't R2 daytime shows, or at least a couple of them, follow the same 'music club' style presenter choices. Makes for a much more enjoyable show if the guy playing the records actually enjoys them! Danny proves that, with careful varied selection, the listener does too.
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Rachel · Guest

I wondered how long it would take.

I don't disagree that the track is pants... cos it is, as I said earlier. It's a matter of respect for other poeple, and SK shows very little of it.

MadeinSurrey · Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 3:17 pm Post subject:

No Rachel, you are wrong there! Sarah DOES show respect to others, what I don't understand is why you persist in listening to her when it is plain that you don't like her?
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gfloyd · Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 3:19 pm Post subject:

I think we all agree the song is awful. Couldn't Ms Kennedy have discovered this off air before inflicting part of it on us?

Equally why are the playlist boffins inflicting this on us in the first place? A most un-Radio 2 track.
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MadeinSurrey · Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 3:21 pm Post subject:

Agreed Ernie, but it's far from being the only example in recent months. The whole playlist issue needs addressing, and Lady B is right in her comments about this.
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gfloyd · Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 3:21 pm Post subject:

MadeinSurrey · Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 3:24 pm Post subject:

You mean like the girl with the curl??!!

Granted, Miss K can be up and down, but that's part of the interest in her show, you never know what sort of Sarah you're going to get or what might pop out of her mouth!!
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MIS

1. I disagree. I think SK is quite disrespectful at times.

2. I don't like the B3115 but I drive to work on it every day. You don't need to understand why I listen to the DP but I have explained to you why I do, on a previous occasion and I don't intend to reiterate that here.

3. I don't constantly snipe at SK .. only when it's justified by her poor performance. She can do much better than she has since the start of this year.

MadeinSurrey · Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 3:28 pm Post subject:

Mmm, I think I'll just say no more, Rachel, you seem to be coming from a strange angle as far as SK is concerned.

All the best,
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Cherskiy · Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 4:18 pm Post subject:

I have to take Rachel's side regarding some of SK's actions, having listened again to the offending track.... actions above and beyond the call of duty! Smile

I think 99% of us are in agreement (well, not Mark who thought it was great!) that Bouncy's song is 'pants'. No argument there. Sounded to me like the musical equivalent of dragging ones fingernails across a blackboard.....

As to whether SK should have played it at all, rather than pull it midway through, then, no, I'm not in agreement. If she didn't like it (and she admitted she'd already heard it on Wogan and hated it), why did she play it anyway? Either she should have refused - what is the producer going to do? Sack her midway through the programme? or played it in its (awful) entirety.
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nod · Joined: 24 Dec 2006 Posts: 3558

I think it's great just how it happened, we know a lot more about how she felt about it than just refusing to play it, and then nobody would have been any wiser.

Lets hope they keep DJs / presenters who are prepared to do these things, it adds to the entertainment Very Happy

Cherskiy · Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 4:28 pm Post subject:

nod · Joined: 24 Dec 2006 Posts: 3558

OK with me Very Happy

Behind Geddon's Wall · Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 4:31 pm Post subject:

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Natasha · Little Miss Lovely Smile Joined: 09 Dec 2006 Posts: 790

Who can we we get to chuck Karine Polwart's, 'Daisy' in the bin?
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MadeinSurrey · Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 4:41 pm Post subject:

Anything by Silly Allen can go straight down the waste disposal...
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SantaFefan · Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 6:49 pm Post subject:

In a bit of a dig at Radio 2, ( Radio Two Faced ) our local newspaper said the following about Sarah........in case anybody's interested.

"Fortunately for Radio 2, they do have four broadcasters who hold the station together and appeal to all age ranges.

There is Sarah Kennedy, to gently stir you from your slumbers.
She is everyone's favourite aunt with amusing tales to tell about her pets and holidays.

Convent educated Sarah has an accent that makes you think of jolly hockysticks and W.I. jam sessions, but her thoughts on topical events are always forthright and honest.

She has the knack of making you feel that she is not really presenting a radio programme to the nation but is just having a chat with friends.""

For my part, although I don't listen to Sarah, I think it's ok to stop the track halfway through if she think it's naff.
I'm sure this happened a fair bit back in the Pirate days. I seem to remember 45's being hurled across the studio.
It makes the presenter more interesting. Rolling Eyes

gfloyd · Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 7:05 pm Post subject:

SantaFefan · Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 7:14 pm Post subject:

Terry Wogan, Ken Bruce and Jeremy Vine.