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The Dave Clark Five and Beyond: Glad All Over

 
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becky sharp



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 1:26 pm    Post subject: The Dave Clark Five and Beyond: Glad All Over Reply with quote

BBC 2

Film telling the story of the Dave Clark Five, their emergence from working-class Tottenham, their close friendship and the youthful exuberance with which they captured the USA.

Much was made, in this programme, of a supposed rivalry between the Dave Clark Five and The Beatles???

I don't have any memory of that even though Twiggy did. My memory is it was the Beatles v The Stones...a much more even contest. Wink Rather ridiculous as I loved both ...why would you want to choose between two such great groups when you could enjoy both.

I remember The Dave Clark Five as a group who had some catchy songs ..very likeable but nothing earth shattering.

Elton John put them in a group with The Beatles and The Stones...I can think of a few groups from back then that I would put in a group with The Beatles and The Stones...The Kinks and The Hollies being a couple...but not The Dave Clark Five.

After saying all that I enjoyed this trip down memory lane ...could have done,mind, without all the time allotted to the musical,Time,which was all about Dave Clark and that project and not the actual group.

Sad there are only two left of the group.

I liked the version of Glad All Over by Mike Moran that was played over the end credits...can't find it on Youtube.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b053d7jl/the-dave-clark-five-and-beyond-glad-all-over
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 4:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think that certain people talked about them in the same terms as the Beatles and Stones Becky simply because of their huge popularity and sucess across the pond

I missed the programme but did hear an interview with Dave Clark on radio last week - I think on the SW Show - and he was at pains to point out that there was no real rivalry between most of the artists around during that great period for British music - it was all a thing dreamed up by the press unlike the Blur v Oasis rivalry which certainly was real some thirty years later Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 5:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I missed the start of this but enjoyed the rest apart from the Time musical bit. I remember all the hype but it just passed me by somehow.

Like you Becky I don't remember the rivalry between DC5 and the Beatles. I remember them being very successful in the US and something about Lyndon Johnson's (US president at the time) daughter being a big fan. Apart from anything else the Beatles had already been famous for best part of a year before DC5 came on the record scene.

Loved the RSG clips especially of the Beatles. I can remember George Harrison's quip as well. Sadly Tyne Tees TV didn't show the programme until very late at night (it started off around 7pm IIRC) and then dropped it altogether.

It got me thinking about remembering bits from shows so long ago. I'm sure we remember them because there was no video back then and they were rarely repeated meaning things were etched into your brain. Well that's my reasoning, probably a bit daft but there you are! Very Happy

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 8:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When the archive of RSG programmes (or what was left of them) became available in the 1980s, Dave Clark made a very wise decision to buy up the rights, even though others thought he was nuts. That proved to be very lucrative as he now gains a very substantial income for licensing of clips' usage - such as in the very programme mentioned above! Income can amount to anything from 350.00 to 3,000 per minute!
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becky sharp



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 10:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ruddlescat wrote:

I missed the programme but did hear an interview with Dave Clark on radio last week - I think on the SW Show - and he was at pains to point out that there was no real rivalry between most of the artists around during that great period for British music - it was all a thing dreamed up by the press
It was obvious throughout the programme,ruddles, that the rivalry (?) was friendly and that it was whipped up by the press...though Macca did say at the end "The Beatles were better" then laughed and said "Come on I've gotta say that"
ruddlescat wrote:
unlike the Blur v Oasis rivalry which certainly was real some thirty years later Smile

I remember the result of who had won the race to the top of the charts (between Blur and Oasis) being announced on the BBC TV news! Very Happy

Helen May wrote:
I missed the start of this but enjoyed the rest apart from the Time musical bit. I remember all the hype but it just passed me by somehow.
Massive wasn't it!
Helen May wrote:

Loved the RSG clips especially of the Beatles. I can remember George Harrison's quip as well. Sadly Tyne Tees TV didn't show the programme until very late at night (it started off around 7pm IIRC) and then dropped it altogether.
And Ringo saying he was a mocker. Very Happy

Helen May wrote:
It got me thinking about remembering bits from shows so long ago. I'm sure we remember them because there was no video back then and they were rarely repeated meaning things were etched into your brain. Well that's my reasoning, probably a bit daft but there you are! Very Happy

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Plus I would venture to say,Helen, that we probably had a lot less to think about back then...music, fashion and boys being uppermost in our minds. Cool Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 11:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I too enjoyed the programme and didn't realise they were so popular in the US. Having said that, much of their output was fairly banal: awful cover versions and mainly forgettable songs. However, Glad All Over was a classic, and I loved Catch Us If You Can and Because.

But as for comparisons with the Beatles, oh dear...

I also enjoyed the following programme, some 60s TOTP excerpts from 1968 that weren't wiped. Especially The Move and Fire Brigade, with young Roy Wood and Bev Bevan. The Move were my favourite band at the time and I clearly remember being upset at missing that edition of TOTP in February 1968 for some reason, knowing The Move were on. Little did I know that I would get round to seeing it 47 years later!

At least I videoed it this time.
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becky sharp



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 11:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Schizoidman wrote:
I too enjoyed the programme and didn't realise they were so popular in the US. Having said that, much of their output was fairly banal: awful cover versions and mainly forgettable songs. However, Glad All Over was a classic, and I loved Catch Us If You Can and Because.

But as for comparisons with the Beatles, oh dear...

I also enjoyed the following programme, some 60s TOTP excerpts from 1968 that weren't wiped. Especially The Move and Fire Brigade, with young Roy Wood and Bev Bevan. The Move were my favourite band at the time and I clearly remember being upset at missing that edition of TOTP in February 1968 for some reason, knowing The Move were on. Little did I know that I would get round to seeing it 47 years later!

At least I videoed it this time.
I recorded it too,Schiz and loved seeing and hearing Fire Brigade by The Move..what a splendid record it is!

I also enjoyed seeing Arthur Brown. His performance on that edition of TOTP is one of my all time favourites...he was definitely crazy! Very Happy
And the followng programme on from TOTP was Telstar: The Joe Meek Story which I also recorded...have already seen that but it's worth another watch.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2015 10:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

With all that face paint, Arthur Brown could be called early Glam Rock, albeit in black and white!

Yes, the Telstar film was excellent.
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