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mark occomore
Joined: 07 Dec 2006 Posts: 9955 Location: UK
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Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2016 6:22 pm Post subject: The future of Sounds of the sixties in doubt.. |
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Speculation brewing the future of Sounds of the sixities on Saturday mornings could end up being true and replaced with a breakfast show ( god knows why ) hosted by Dermot O'Leary whilst Zoe ball takes over his Saturday show. There's been no solid confirmation, but looks Likley these changes could take place at the beginning of 2017. What is the point having a Anneka Rice from 6am and breakfast from 8am . Looks like the station is moving forward to the new generation https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.radiotimes.com/amp/news/2016-09-20/sounds-of-the-sixties-to-be-moved-by-radio-2?client=safari |
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Schizoidman

Joined: 20 Sep 2010 Posts: 1140 Location: Rural West Sussex
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Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2016 10:01 pm Post subject: |
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I suppose there is no harm if it is moved to another slot, but to get rid of it altogether.....well, surely Radio 2 and Bob Shennon can't be that stupid. Or can they? |
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Ian Robinson Site Admin
Joined: 11 Dec 2006 Posts: 3598 Location: Chorley, Lancashire
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Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2016 3:25 pm Post subject: |
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Not been on this site for ages, and I come back to this hoary old story. Scott Nelson's not writing for the Radio Times now is he?
There are 2 flaws with this plan. First, it's clearly designed to keep Dermot on board even though he's back on X-Factor. In which case, why start after X-Factor has finished...?
Second, Sounds of the Sixties is Radio 2's highest-rated weekend show and thus gets listeners in for the Saturday and Sunday. A move would be disastrous for the whole station. |
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FleetingEileenM
Joined: 30 Mar 2010 Posts: 5767 Location: Hampshire
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Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2016 5:45 pm Post subject: |
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Ian Robinson wrote: | Scott Nelson's not writing for the Radio Times now is he? |
Oh, what memories that name conjures up  |
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ruddlescat
Joined: 16 Sep 2010 Posts: 18010 Location: Near Chester
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Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2016 7:47 pm Post subject: |
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The alleged proposal just doesn't seem to hold water for me
Bearing in mind that within the last couple of years R2 has introduced Sounds Of The Eighties and even more recently Sounds Of The Fifties and they also have Sounds Of The Seventies why on earth would they want to miss out the sixties  _________________ Are you ready for a Ruddles? |
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Number Six
Joined: 14 Dec 2006 Posts: 438 Location: In the village
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Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2016 12:28 pm Post subject: |
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Paul Donovan of the ST was speculating a couple of weeks ago that Brian might be retiring. Now that Desmond's going surely Brian must be the oldest presenter on R2. If that's true we have an obvious replacement in the newly restored Tony Blackburn.
I've just managed to wipe the name Scott Nelson from my memory and now it's back. Bugger! _________________ I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. |
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becky sharp

Joined: 01 Dec 2008 Posts: 6814
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Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2016 12:58 pm Post subject: |
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Number Six wrote: | Paul Donovan of the ST was speculating a couple of weeks ago that Brian might be retiring. Now that Desmond's going surely Brian must be the oldest presenter on R2. If that's true we have an obvious replacement in the newly restored Tony Blackburn.
I've just managed to wipe the name Scott Nelson from my memory and now it's back. Bugger! |
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Ian Robinson Site Admin
Joined: 11 Dec 2006 Posts: 3598 Location: Chorley, Lancashire
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Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2016 1:08 pm Post subject: |
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Scott's a much-quoted pro-Corbyn political commentator now, known as "Socialist Voice" on twitter, but previously as "The Mockney Rebel." People take him seriously, despite being banned from the Labour party for his anti-semitic tweets (which he has since removed). |
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becky sharp

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Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2016 1:12 pm Post subject: |
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Ian Robinson wrote: | Scott's a much-quoted pro-Corbyn political commentator now, known as "Socialist Voice"on twitter, but previously as "The Mockney Rebel." People take him seriously, despite being banned from the Labour party for his anti-semitic tweets (which he has since removed). |
I thought that was him. |
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ruddlescat
Joined: 16 Sep 2010 Posts: 18010 Location: Near Chester
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Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2016 1:14 pm Post subject: |
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I'm far happier with him destroying the Labour Party rather than claiming to be the world's number one authority on music and radio schedules and bullying anyone who dares to disagree
With the way the Labour Party is heading who knows - he might even end up in the Shadow Cabinet  _________________ Are you ready for a Ruddles? |
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Ian Robinson Site Admin
Joined: 11 Dec 2006 Posts: 3598 Location: Chorley, Lancashire
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Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2017 12:21 am Post subject: |
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So!
Today was Dermot O'Leary's final Saturday show. He's back "next month" in a new slot with a new format.
Hmm. |
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Nickbucks
Joined: 30 Dec 2006 Posts: 100
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Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2017 8:33 pm Post subject: |
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Given that Friday Night is Music Night now consists of regular repeats and is I guess the sort of programme that the BBC bosses think no longer appeals to the desired audience I wonder if SOTS could be included within an expanded Tony Blackburn show. The Golden Hour format is good but seems strange on its own.TB would seem to be a natural candidate to play 60's hits. Phil Swern produces both I believe. |
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Ian Robinson Site Admin
Joined: 11 Dec 2006 Posts: 3598 Location: Chorley, Lancashire
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Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2017 10:25 pm Post subject: |
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My guess is Sounds of the 60s will go in Dermot's slot then you have two companion shows in roughly the same slot on Saturday and Sunday. But don't know who'd present it - as you say Nick, TB would be the most suited. |
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nod
Joined: 24 Dec 2006 Posts: 3558
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Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2017 2:06 pm Post subject: |
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Great news that Sat 1500 to 1800 maybe becoming listenable again.....
...BUT now Sat 0800 won't be  |
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Nickbucks
Joined: 30 Dec 2006 Posts: 100
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Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2017 5:25 pm Post subject: |
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BBC R2 & Unique have announced this afternoon that Brian Matthew will not be returning to SOTS due to ill health. The programme will continue with a new presenter ( details not specified). The full press release can be found on the RadioToday website. |
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graham b
Joined: 23 Sep 2010 Posts: 211 Location: Wakefield
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ruddlescat
Joined: 16 Sep 2010 Posts: 18010 Location: Near Chester
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Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2017 7:46 pm Post subject: |
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At very least they should have allowed him to come back until say Easter in order to give him the chance to properly say goodbye to his numerous fans of many years - and of course by then Brian would have been in a position to tell listeners who would be taking over
Oh but sorry I forgot - it's the BBC we are talking about which these days seems to be in the hands of inconsiderate and incompetent idiots  _________________ Are you ready for a Ruddles? |
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Fog on the Tyne

Joined: 09 Dec 2006 Posts: 1090
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Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2017 8:07 pm Post subject: |
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typical BBC ditching the talented and experienced broadcasters and no doubt giving another wannabee celeb a show _________________ The wheel keeps on turning...
This fool made it round. |
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oldraver

Joined: 18 Dec 2006 Posts: 1175 Location: London
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Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2017 10:18 pm Post subject: |
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ruddlescat wrote: | At very least they should have allowed him to come back until say Easter in order to give him the chance to properly say goodbye to his numerous fans of many years - and of course by then Brian would have been in a position to tell listeners who would be taking over
Oh but sorry I forgot - it's the BBC we are talking about which these days seems to be in the hands of inconsiderate and incompetent idiots  |
Yes, it wouldn't have hurt them to give Brian that much, would it? 60 years, this year, since he frst presented Skiffle Club - later to become Saturday Club. Just a few more shows to say goodbye properly, after 60 years. For those of us old enough to remember, he was such a vital part of the early 60's scene on radio and then on Thank Your Lucky Stars, that it's unthinkable he should be so coldly discarded like this.
But we shouldn't be at all surprised, as it seems to be their modus operandi.
If I knew the Latin for 'no class', I'd type that. Brian has plenty. _________________ life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans |
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becky sharp

Joined: 01 Dec 2008 Posts: 6814
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Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2017 9:03 am Post subject: |
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What a shabby way to treat such a gem of a broadcaster as Brian.
The BBC,Mr 'Carnage' (thanks LEE) in particular, should hang their heads in shame.
As has already been said Brian should at least have been given a decent leaving by the BBC, befitting his service to them, but they wouldn't know decent if it hit them in the face.
Disgraceful behaviour.  |
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Helen May

Joined: 10 Dec 2006 Posts: 19334 Location: Cheshire
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Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2017 9:49 am Post subject: |
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Agree with you all that it's such a disgrace that Brian should have been treated so badly.
I hope whoever they get is better than Tim Rice, and maybe they could change the producer as well as the music this morning has been awful IMHO. Of course producer probably is with the 'company who decided on the chop' or maybe he even owns it as he does more than on show on R2...........
H _________________ 88 - 91 FM this is Radio 2 from the BBC!
I said it live on air in the studio with Jeremy Vine on 10/3/2005 |
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Angela W
Joined: 11 Dec 2006 Posts: 7202 Location: North Yorkshire
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Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2017 10:23 am Post subject: |
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This is a disgrace. Brian should have been allowed back to say his goodbyes, but then I suppose the truth would get in the way of the BBC's lies.
If this show gets put in the hands of another so called celeb it will be the kiss of death for me. _________________ Pirate Johnnie Walker played my request on 11 April 2009 |
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unclebuck

Joined: 19 Apr 2010 Posts: 276 Location: Warwickshire
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Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2017 4:13 pm Post subject: |
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Once again I am left wondering.....
Not just how a public funded organisation can be run so badly (that is not really surprising any more)....
But how they can be allowed to act with such a complete lack of integrity:
THEY ARE LYING about reasons for Brian's 'retirement'.
If is going to be regarded as 'OK' for the BBC to lie to the public, then we have a bigger problem. |
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ruddlescat
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Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2017 9:14 pm Post subject: |
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Completely agree with your comments about today's show Helen and like you I am wondering who will take over the show
I suppose the obvious name in the frame is TB being that he has just become rehabilitated within the BBC and of course he kicked off Radio One and all that stuff back in the late sixties
I agree with Angela generally about the complete undesirability of any celeb taking over but I do think that I would make an exception in the case of Joe Brown who has very successfully presented the show before and who has impressed me on several radio appearances recently with his great knowledge and experience of sixties music
However for me there's one obvious candidate who was around in that era and who has vast knowledge of music of many decades including the sixties and who also has experience of working with Phil Swern - yes I'm talking about Mr Popmaster himself -Kenneth The Bruce
If they swap his role on Friday Night Is Music Night with Tim Rice's current slot then both shows would benefit in my view so bingo - Robert's your Dad's Brother
Still so sad about the situation with Brian though - I imagine that show must have been a major part of his life and losing it might have devastating consequences - I really hope I'm wrong  _________________ Are you ready for a Ruddles? |
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Angela W
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Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2017 9:36 pm Post subject: |
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Ruddles, Joe Brown would be a good choice and fine with me. The sort of celeb that I wouldn't want to hear would be someone who has no knowledge or appreciation of music in the sixties. I could list those who are already on Radio 2, but I am sure you will know who I mean anyway.
It is an appalling way to treat someone of Brian's standing, I doubt the BBC could do much to sink any lower in my estimation now. _________________ Pirate Johnnie Walker played my request on 11 April 2009 |
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Lord Evan Elpuss

Joined: 10 Dec 2006 Posts: 3415 Location: Cloud Cuckoo Land
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Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2017 12:13 am Post subject: |
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Don't forget that Johnnie Walker also did a great job sitting in for Brian in his absence. I agree with everyone else on here that it is a very poor show to just unceremoneously dump Brian Matthew without a bye-or-leave. Sadly there is a history of this kind of thing happening. Someone has mentioned it happening to Jimmy Young. After tonight there will be no more Janice Long or Alex Lester. It would seem that many years of loyal service now stsnds for nothing. _________________ Lord Evan Elpuss, Your ideal job is a Lumberjack. |
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nod
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Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2017 12:16 pm Post subject: |
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Very disappointing...
Anyone know where SOTS is going ?
Also why is Jo Whiley billed as standing in for O'Leary when we all know he has done his last show on a Saturday ?
Why don't they just tell us what's going on ?
I will be listening to even less R2, and that's not much now  |
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Lord Evan Elpuss

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Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2017 10:34 pm Post subject: |
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nod wrote: | Very disappointing...
Anyone know where SOTS is going ?
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Tonight's repeat airing is where Janice Long should still be, that's At Midnight! _________________ Lord Evan Elpuss, Your ideal job is a Lumberjack. |
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Fog on the Tyne

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Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2017 12:37 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | Tonight's repeat airing is where Janice Long should still be, that's At Midnight
yes that's happening with all of the usual repeats then it's the auto playlists through until Feltz |
_________________ The wheel keeps on turning...
This fool made it round. |
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Angela W
Joined: 11 Dec 2006 Posts: 7202 Location: North Yorkshire
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oldraver

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becky sharp

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Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2017 4:26 pm Post subject: |
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Raver...in that Telegraph link Brian uses the word balderdash...what a splendid old fashioned word.
Thanks for the link to the petition,Angela.  |
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unclebuck

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Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2017 4:58 pm Post subject: |
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It would perhaps have been nice if Tim Rice had displayed a little moral fibre...
'Covering' for someone who doesn't actually want to be absent might easily be regarded as colluding with the BBC in this disgusting treatment of Brian. |
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mark occomore
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Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2017 3:04 pm Post subject: |
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Tony Blackburn said he's got some some exciting news coming up but couldn't say. I'm wondering if he's taking over the show with it maybe moving as Dermot is moving to another slot. |
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Helen May

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Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2017 3:39 pm Post subject: |
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That would be a good slot for him.
H _________________ 88 - 91 FM this is Radio 2 from the BBC!
I said it live on air in the studio with Jeremy Vine on 10/3/2005 |
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ruddlescat
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Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2017 10:21 pm Post subject: |
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unclebuck wrote: | It would perhaps have been nice if Tim Rice had displayed a little moral fibre...
'Covering' for someone who doesn't actually want to be absent might easily be regarded as colluding with the BBC in this disgusting treatment of Brian. |
I entirely agree Uncle - he's always struck me as a bit of a creep _________________ Are you ready for a Ruddles? |
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nod
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Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2017 8:48 pm Post subject: |
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mark occomore wrote: | Tony Blackburn said he's got some some exciting news coming up but couldn't say. I'm wondering if he's taking over the show with it maybe moving as Dermot is moving to another slot. |
Blackburn on SOT60S? Hopefully not  |
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Angela W
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Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2017 11:50 am Post subject: |
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nod wrote: | mark occomore wrote: | Tony Blackburn said he's got some some exciting news coming up but couldn't say. I'm wondering if he's taking over the show with it maybe moving as Dermot is moving to another slot. |
Blackburn on SOT60S? Hopefully not  |
I would prefer TB to any of the Beeb's chosen celebs. _________________ Pirate Johnnie Walker played my request on 11 April 2009 |
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Helen May

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Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2017 12:08 pm Post subject: |
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At least he was there in the 60s which IMHO should be one of the first requirements a presenter should possess before being appointed.
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Sorry the grammar doesn't read quite right but you know what I mean! _________________ 88 - 91 FM this is Radio 2 from the BBC!
I said it live on air in the studio with Jeremy Vine on 10/3/2005 |
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Schizoidman

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Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2017 4:01 pm Post subject: |
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Can't see anything wrong with your grammar, Helen.
I too think TB would make a good presenter of SOT60s. He was there at the time and loves the music. Definitely NOT Joe Brown as suggested earlier, as he is stuck in a pre-1963 time warp like the current producer Phil Swern, and it's time for fewer ridiculous obscurities from 1961 and more late 60s music. |
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