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Tight Scot



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 4:13 pm    Post subject: Sounds of the sixties Reply with quote

Isnt it about time that SOTs permanent Sat slot was shared between Sounds of the seventies, sounds of the eighties and sounds of the nineties.
How about one week to each on a rolling basis
After all there is more to music than just the sixties and BMs obsession with the beatles.

Now ducking behind parapet.....
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 4:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nah - the Sixties was a unique period in which a mass of ground-breaking music was created and it more than deserves its own dedicated slot in my opinion.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A brave first post Scot.

I think there should be room about to do all of the ones you mention, personally I agree with you and Bm fixation with the Beatles but they were fairly big Rolling Eyes , but not infallable.

There used to be a proper 70's show but Johnny Walker took it over and just plays early 70's missing anything post 77 which isn't right.
80's I think it's about time it's been 21 years since they finished.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 4:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ColinB wrote:
Nah - the Sixties was a unique period in which a mass of ground-breaking music was created and it more than deserves its own dedicated slot in my opinion.


I am not saying it doesnt deserve its own slot but NOT every week for two hours. When JW did sounds of the seventies it wasn't for two hours in a prime slot. Why shouldn't other decades have a proper look in
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

undiscovered wrote:
I think there should be room about to do all of the ones you mention, personally I agree with you and Bm fixation with the Beatles but they were fairly big Rolling Eyes , but not infallable.


They weren't infallible, agreed, but they were HUGE by the standards of any generation. As somebody who is old enough to have devoured every second of it I can only say that the Beatles' back-catalogue is one mighty fine body of work that has (in my opinion) not been equalled by anybody. Nope. Nobody. If their music does enjoy a pedestal on SOTS then it's because the Beatles were, quite simply, the biggest thing about the decade. Their ubiquity was well earned.....

Whilst we're on the subject, the reason for BM's apparent fixation (obsession?) with the fab four is simple: he rubbed shoulders with them all the time - at least in the first half of the 60s - and whenever I think of Brian Mathew I think of The Beatles, Juke Box Jury, Ready, Steady Go! and other stuff. They're all intertwined.

So..... I like SOTS. It's an oasis in a desert of blandness, banality and mediocrity on Radio 2 (think "The Chris Evans' Breakfast Show" or "The Big Show with Steve Wright") so I'm happy to listen to it for as long as BM is capable and willing to front it each Saturday morning.

Tight Scot wrote:
I am not saying it doesnt deserve its own slot but NOT every week for two hours. When JW did sounds of the seventies it wasn't for two hours in a prime slot. Why shouldn't other decades have a proper look in


Chris Evans gets 3.5 hours each and every weekday morning. That's 17.5 excruciating hours per week!

SOTS' two hours is fine by me.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

FFS dont tell us the ginger whinger has had his show extended !!!!!!!!
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 4:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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FFS dont tell us the ginger whinger has had his show extended !!!!!!!!


Sorry - 15 hours. It just seems like more because he's difficult to avoid in the mornings!
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 4:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Colin it sounds so much worse when you tote his hours up Evil or Very Mad

If R2 were brave with it's daytime schedule then we could see the type of shows mentioned Scot, but the only time a show changes is when someone retires, Wogan for Evans (yes I know) and before that Young for Vine, didn't really change that much, although that show is sort of ok, a bit tabloid but it's the bbc it can't stick it's neck out without either side getting irrate.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd love to see a decent 70s show rather than what we have now and I think there should be a show devoted to 80s music but not anything more recent as later tracks can be accommodated in other specialist shows and the normal daily schedule
I would strongly oppose any move to axe alter or water down SOTS because as Colin says it is the decade which changed musical trends and paved the way for much that followed
Also having SOTS at Saturday breakfast time sets Radio 2 apart from all of its competitors which should give it a clear advantage I think
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 6:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tight Scot wrote:
Isnt it about time that SOTs permanent Sat slot was shared between Sounds of the seventies, sounds of the eighties and sounds of the nineties.
How about one week to each on a rolling basis
After all there is more to music than just the sixties and BMs obsession with the beatles.

Now ducking behind parapet.....
In a word...no..(welcome to the board by the way Smile ) it's one of the most popular programmes on Radio 2, I believe, so why would it be changed....apologies if that sounds selfish... Smile

This thread has reminded me of an article I read this week in The Guardian by Elisabeth Mahoney


Radio review: Sounds of the 60s

Brian Matthew's voice is as comforting as a toasty cardigan, but he still surprises, even at the age of 82

Brian Matthew's encyclopedic knowledge even extends to garage punk.

Sounds of the 60s (Radio 2, Saturday) is in its 20th year, and for most programmes that would be a pretty stonking statistic. But the show's longevity is firmly put in the shade by that of its presenter, Brian Matthew. The 82-year-old has been presenting music radio for long enough that the tracks he once played as a startling new sound have now settled quite comfortably into middle age.

The show is a nostalgic offering, and one that is utterly reliable: you can listen after a mammoth break, and the key elements are guaranteed to be the same. Records are still "discs"; Matthew's voice is still as comforting as a roomy, toasty cardigan, and the focus is squarely on the story of each disc played. When Matthew refers to something beyond the perky, bright world of the concise 60s tracks he plays, it's quite a jolt. When he suggested that one band had "rather the style of garage punkers", I nearly dropped my slice of toast.

There is joy to be had in the exhaustive, rare detail here ("the recording was made in four takes"). Matthew patiently explained the career trajectory of songwriter Geoff Goddard, who also worked as a singer under the names Anton Hollywood and Percy Evanston. You sense he was targeting rather different markets with those aliases..


http://www.guardian.co.uk/tv-and-radio/2010/nov/22/radio-review-sounds-of-the-60s
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 6:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Sounds of The Sixties" is actually actually older than the article above suggests. I remember it in the early 80s when it was presented by Simon Dee and produced at BBC Bristol's Whiteladies Road studios. It was short-lived in that form though, and resurrected some time later with Brian Mathew at the helm.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Colin I seem to recall the show being presented by Keith Fordyce around the late 80s or am I imagining that Confused
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 6:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ruddlescat wrote:
Colin I seem to recall the show being presented by Keith Fordyce around the late 80s or am I imagining that Confused


That's very possible because Simon Dee was renowned for being a grumpy, bitter old sod and that's why he didn't do SOTS for more than two series (of about 13 editions, I recall). He was hated at BBC Bristol (I know people who worked there at the time). So he left and slumped back into obscurity in north Wales.

I didn't ever hear SOTS after that because I never really listened to R2 (it was R1 and Capital for me), but Brian Mathews' SOTS was what first introduced me to R2. It must be an age thing!!! Smile
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 7:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Colin, Ruddles

I think Keith Fordyce started it I'm guessing 82/83 because I'm sure I heard it at my Mum's house before we moved down here. I've bits from a Simon Dee show made I think in 88, but I've edited most of him out. I wish I'd left some now but it was before the days of minidiscs which made life easy.

It goes without saying I much prefer the Sounds of the Sixties and it deserves the longer spot. Reasons have been given which I won't add to but it wasn't just because of the Beatles.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 8:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why must music be packaged up into decade sized blocks, anyway?

It's not as if everything suddenly changed as soon as the clocks struck midnight on the 31st of December 1969, is it? (Someone is bound to argue that that was precisely when Jimi Hendrix unveiled his Band Of Gypsies for the first time!)
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 8:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Helen May wrote:
I think Keith Fordyce started it I'm guessing 82/83 because I'm sure I heard it at my Mum's house before we moved down here. I've bits from a Simon Dee show made I think in 88, but I've edited most of him out. I wish I'd left some now but it was before the days of minidiscs which made life easy


I'm not so sure about your dates, Helen. We've lived at our current address since 1982 but I'm positive Simon Dee was doing his SOTS from Bristol when we were at our old place (I have a mental image of listening then, if that makes sense!).

But I could be wrong......

I'm going to do some research.

STOP PRESS:

Helen, you're right. Dammit.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sounds_of_the_60s
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 8:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Colin I have some friends who used to run a hotel in Ilfracombe North Devon and I remember going there shortly after they opened in 1986 and they would have Radio 2 on at breakfast and I'm sure I remember hearing Keith Fordyce on the show

In those days I was still listening to Radio 1 so I didn't pay too much attention but thinking about it now that's where I first heard SOTS and perhaps the dye was cast
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 8:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JQW wrote:
Why must music be packaged up into decade sized blocks, anyway?

It's not as if everything suddenly changed as soon as the clocks struck midnight on the 31st of December 1969, is it? (Someone is bound to argue that that was precisely when Jimi Hendrix unveiled his Band Of Gypsies for the first time!)


No, but as far as the 60s is concerned it can almost be summarised thus. I recall that, come 1969, the "spirit" of the 60s was dying, the Beatles had fallen apart and chart music was becoming more bland (although the bands that played the circuit were becoming more numerous and getting better) and watching Top of The Pops was definitely not the done thing if you were hip & cool like wot I wuz*.

Flip back to the beginning of the 60s and the Beatles were just starting to break through and things were hotting up.

Perhaps the 60s was an exceptional decade after all!

*I'm not any more, I don't think.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 12:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can only endorse what Ruddlescat and the Guardian article have said.

Hands off SOTS!!

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 12:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

iwarburton wrote:


Hands off SOTS!!

Ian.



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 1:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In their defense, scot Wogan was always leaving it was just who were they going to replace him with.
Bad choice but it was always going to be a difficult one he'd been on there so long
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 7:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Sounds of the 90s"??? Laughing
well, I suppose they could just about throw together a 10 minute show once a month for that maybe..

Now the 80s would make a good show and, a decent 70s show as I'm sad to say what I've heard of JW's show isn't very good...
Colin, I have to disagree about watching Top of the Pops.. I considered myself pretty cool back then Cool but as it was in the privacy of your own home, TotP's was essential viewing for lots of reasons Wink DeeDee for one...

Excerpts from the shows during the 70s or 80s were lively, bright and FUN.. something most younger people and the Radio2 playlist seem to have forgot about today Rolling Eyes but slowly the established presenters were replaced by bland, shouty rejects and I lost interest. ( now that sounds familiar )
I was thinking about this the other day and what a shame it is the show was cancelled. In latter years, I didn't like most of the c..rap music aired but there were still gems and enjoyable, fun acts to watch. Duffy for instance.. I'd love to see her videos on TV more often.

Bring back Pan's People! and DeeDee..
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 7:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think Pans People might be a little past their sell by date by now

I'd rather remember them as how they were in the late 60s and the effect they had on us teenage lads at that time

Absolutely agree about Duffy though I'd like to see a lot more of her Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 7:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm surprised Radio 2 havn't copied what Absoulte are doing - Absoulte 80's & 90's shows?
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 7:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bring back Pan's People-are you serious!.

They must all be retired by now.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 8:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mark occomore wrote:
I'm surprised Radio 2 havn't copied what Absoulte are doing - Absoulte 80's & 90's shows?


They are employing a lot of the 80/90s R1 DJs isn't that enough ? Rolling Eyes
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