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becky sharp · Joined: 01 Dec 2008 Posts: 6851

Helen remarked on the Radio 2 messageboard the other day (and I hope she doesn't mind me quoting her)

"I do feel a bit put out that we are paying for the BBC's presence on Facebook as it will no doubt have to be policed in a similar way to the message boards"

To which Peta answered ...

I post content onto our Facebook group a few times a week, but it isn't moderated by us, if you don't like content on Facebook you alert it, and Facebook will remove it if they think it breaks *their* rules.

But on the 6 Music messageboard she (Peta)wrote this

As admins of our own group we have the right - and the buttons provided by Facebook for admin use - to exclude and remove people, content and/or links from our own pages.

If you know of someone would like to appeal against a Facebook ban, or about the way that we manage our Facebook pages, please go via the complaints site. It's worth noting that anyone who has been seen to contribute harassing, abusive or offensive content about BBC staff members or other listeners won't be reinstated, for obvious reasons.

If you'd like more information about why Facebook have set it up their site so that admins can manage the content posted to their own pages, or info about their rules and their application by page owners, why not contact Facebook? I believe they have a help centre on their site.

Am I missing something here??

Themanfromuncle · Joined: 15 Sep 2010 Posts: 79 Location: Near The Beach

Good spot Becky, I like it. More BBC 'follow my leader to the complaints form only to be ignored' rubbish.

It beggars belief.

ColinB · Guest

Radio 2's Facebook pages are absolute twaddle - yet another extension of their Public Relations department.

Rachel · Guest

Facebook and twitter are just transitory fads. They’ll be replaced by something else soon enough. They're both too mainstream now to be cool. Once your mum-in-law is on twitter, it's like taking her with you when you shop for shoes:get some nice flat ones dear- those will ruin your feet.

Clive55 · Joined: 08 Dec 2006 Posts: 1336

I thought it a bit weak the Beeb citing the closure as things moving on & other ways to communicate like Twitter & Facebook. Nothing like the MB's!

Has anyone posted a link to this site at the R2 MB so people can come here when that closes?
(Will the Beeb allow such a link?)

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Clive55 · Joined: 08 Dec 2006 Posts: 1336

Thanks, Colin! Cool

Lord Evan Elpuss · Joined: 10 Dec 2006 Posts: 3417 Location: Cloud Cuckoo Land

I put one on the 6 music board (the one that's closing) and it was still there when I last looked.
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Blondehedgehog · Joined: 16 Sep 2010 Posts: 286 Location: UK

I went to BBC radio 2 facebook page ...to place a comment... Rolling Eyes

No chance...it is full of Chris Evans.....is he the only one on BBC radio 2?

AND they dont take comments.............. Rolling Eyes

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RockitRon · Joined: 07 Dec 2006 Posts: 7646

Not entirely true, Blondehedgehog. Unless you're seeing a different page to me - http://www.facebook.com/home.php#!/BBCR2 - there's Huey Morgan, Michael Bublé, Bob Harris, "front man for a rock band", etc. etc

You are right that there are no comments for anything to do with Chris Evans (or Simon Mayo), except for his appearance on Blue Peter, and then they are only about BP - but there certainly are for Chris Tarrant and Vanessa Feltz, and of the 43 for her not one is complimentary.
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Blondehedgehog · Joined: 16 Sep 2010 Posts: 286 Location: UK

That page just tells me to look at my profile...I was looking at this...

http://www.facebook.com/BBCR2
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Fred · Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2011 1:04 pm Post subject:

If you click the 'Everyone' tab at the top of the page (below the line of photos going along the top), you'll be able to see what other people have written on BBC Radio 2's "wall"; it certainly does allow writing on their page, as well as commenting on their updates.
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FleetingEileenM · Joined: 30 Mar 2010 Posts: 5789 Location: Hampshire

I know next to nothing about Facebook and how it works.

I went onto the Radio 2 page and clicked on “Discussions”. Where are all the topics that used to attract so much traffic on the R2 MB? It seems that the latest comment about anything was at the end of January i.e. about 4 weeks ago.

Is the Radio 2 presence on Facebook justified?

Fred · Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2011 2:01 pm Post subject:

FleetingEileenM · Joined: 30 Mar 2010 Posts: 5789 Location: Hampshire

Thanks Fred. I've had a look at the WALL page. There are very few topics, nothing of any interest to me and the whole thing looks a right dog's dinner.

Perhaps I would need to join FB in order to get the full benefit. (I won't tho.)

ColinB · Guest

I can't see how you can get anything out of it by being a mere observer since the content is the product of the connections you make - the better your connections the more engaging content you get. The trouble is that many people's "friends" on FB are obsessed with sharing utter trivia (what they had for breakfast, etc) which gives a completely unfair impression of what it has to offer.

I occasionally have a cull of those people I "friend" (peculiar use of the word as a verb, by the way!) because I tire of their wall posts, but I value greatly the interchanges I have with lots of people. I've also re-established contact all seven people who were in my student tutorial group over 30 years ago and who are scattered around the globe.

I guess all forms of "social media" are capable of delivering whatever the user wants to gain from it, to be.

Then again, I think the Radio 2 group section on FB is a complete waste of space and I just don't bother with it.

Helen May · Joined: 10 Dec 2006 Posts: 19382 Location: Cheshire

Well I've looked at the Wall and can see all the comments about Vanessa Feltz but can't see where I could leave one?

I've a Facebook page but hate the thing, only keep it to look at a few things.

I must admit I can't see the point of Radio 2 having pages on there, but then what do I know LOL!

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RockitRon · Joined: 07 Dec 2006 Posts: 7646

H...
Underneath the last comment, or at the bottom of every thread, there's a thin, rectangular box with "Write a comment". Click on that, it will get a little larger, and a blue Comment button will appear - you can now write a comment and press the button to publish it. If you think better of it just click anywhere outside the box and it will vanish.

I have not been moved to make any comment on any BBC FB page.
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Helen May · Joined: 10 Dec 2006 Posts: 19382 Location: Cheshire

It doesn't have that when I look at the page Ron...

Not sure I want to say something but I just wondered how it was done! Like I say I'm not a fan of Facebook.

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becky sharp · Joined: 01 Dec 2008 Posts: 6851

Ian Robinson · Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 10:52 am Post subject:

Helen May · Joined: 10 Dec 2006 Posts: 19382 Location: Cheshire

No I haven't 'liked' the page Ian, but that probably explains the problem, thanks

Seems very odd to have to like something before you can complain that you don't like it......... Rolling Eyes

Again maybe it's me but it seems a bit contrary to me!

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ColinB · Guest

The "like" button is mis-named; what it actually relates to is the fact that a user has created a link between their own bit of Facebook and a third-party's and - in doing so - you have provided Facebook with an essential piece of metadata that they can exploit. It also means that the 3rd party has a measure of who's watching their feed and provides you with access to it in order to contribute to it.

Ian Robinson · Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 1:16 pm Post subject:

Or, less cynically, it's just like making friends, but with a company rather than a person.

Radio 2 is a Page which you "like" so it's messages come up in your feed, rather than a Group which you join and actively have to make an effort to seek out and interact with.

Helen May · Joined: 10 Dec 2006 Posts: 19382 Location: Cheshire

Ah well I haven't 'liked' R2 so don't get any feeds. Think I prefer it that way!

The way I see it is that take this board, well we've sort it out to read and post on but what we post doesn't automatically go to everyone that we have the tiniest miniscule of a link to. I know we have no idea who is reading the board but it's going to be far less than the numbers who are on Facebook.

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Ian Robinson · Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 4:04 pm Post subject:

Helen May · Joined: 10 Dec 2006 Posts: 19382 Location: Cheshire

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Helen May · Joined: 10 Dec 2006 Posts: 19382 Location: Cheshire

That's one of the reasons I keep it, even though I de-activate it from time to time. You never know when you may just want to use it.

I'm glad you gave that link as I had thought of maybe leaving a comment (a not very complimentary one I'd add) about Vanessa Feltz as I get the impression that more notice is taken of that page than was of the R2 message boards. I could be mistaken though!

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Fred · Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 12:43 pm Post subject:

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Ian Robinson · Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 4:23 pm Post subject:

But it's still not the same as liking the Radio 2 page!

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Nothing is free, with facebook, you pay with your life.

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FleetingEileenM · Joined: 30 Mar 2010 Posts: 5789 Location: Hampshire

Colin said:

<quote>A friend of mine wrote:

I never use the Like button. A colleague showed me how my browsing was showing up on websites that he was visiting. He visited The Independent website and it told him what articles a colleague had been reading. I don't know about you, but I'm not that keen on all my Facebook "friends" knowing what I am up to on the internet. Are you?

And even more to the point, this means the website I visit doesn't now just have some vague information like my IP address - they now have the names and details of me and all my "friends". </quote>

Crikey Colin, I am now even more put off the thought of going anywhere near Facebook. There seem to be so many loopholes to catch out the unwary.

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