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becky sharp



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 05, 2013 11:17 pm    Post subject: Nelson Mandela. Reply with quote

Not unexpected but nevertheless sad news

This was a man who truly made his mark on the world and made it a better place...

R.I.P Nelson Mandela ....you deserve it

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 1:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

RIP Nelson Mandela
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 6:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great man
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 10:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Inspirational.

RIP Sir.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 10:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sad news.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 10:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A nice tribute from Richard Branson here. http://www.virgin.com/richard-branson/on-nelson-mandela
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 11:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for posting that, Toggy. What a great man he was.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 2:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought it was a really nice tribute from somebody who clearly knew Mr Mandela very well.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 2:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's a wonderful,heartfelt tribute from Richard Branson...thanks for posting it,Toggy.

Reading through it, this made me chuckle....

"There was no such thing as a free lunch with Madiba - he always extracted something for people less fortunate than himself. One lunchtime he brought his family to our home. Madiba didn’t ask for anything over lunch - I thought I’d got away with it.

As he was leaving he said, with a glint in his eye: “By the way, yesterday I had lunch with Bill Gates, who gave $50 million to our foundation…” I gulped, knowing what was coming next, but was of course happy to help."

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Last night, when I heard the news, I thought about the special Ground Force programme where Alan Titchmarsh 'did' Mandela's garden ...here is Alan,today, talking about that and the man himself..

http://news.uk.msn.com/video-clips?videoid=1411af92-32be-41fe-98f4-ab960cb0ddd0
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 6:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

becky sharp wrote:
That's a wonderful,heartfelt tribute from Richard Branson...thanks for posting it,Toggy.

Reading through it, this made me chuckle....

"There was no such thing as a free lunch with Madiba - he always extracted something for people less fortunate than himself. One lunchtime he brought his family to our home. Madiba didn’t ask for anything over lunch - I thought I’d got away with it.

As he was leaving he said, with a glint in his eye: “By the way, yesterday I had lunch with Bill Gates, who gave $50 million to our foundation…” I gulped, knowing what was coming next, but was of course happy to help."

Very Happy

Last night, when I heard the news, I thought about the special Ground Force programme where Alan Titchmarsh 'did' Mandela's garden ...here is Alan,today, talking about that and the man himself..

http://news.uk.msn.com/video-clips?videoid=1411af92-32be-41fe-98f4-ab960cb0ddd0


I heard about this. I bet he didn't know who Charlie Dimmock and the others were. Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 8:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mark occomore wrote:


I heard about this. I bet he didn't know who Charlie Dimmock and the others were. Laughing

He might not have been that familiar with Alan. Very Happy

There was a nice tribute on the radio this afternoon from Gary Player. He said he wished he had the vocabulary of Churchill to say what he wanted to say about Mandela ....he didn't do too badly with his own.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 07, 2013 6:11 am    Post subject: BBC - Complaint About Coverage Reply with quote

Coverage of the death of Nelson Mandela/changes to schedules

Complaint

We have received complaints from viewers and listeners who felt there was too much coverage of the death of Nelson Mandela. Some audience members felt there was not enough coverage of the storm affecting the UK.

We also received complaints from viewers unhappy about the disruption to the BBC One schedule on 5 December.

Response from BBC News

Nelson Mandela was one of the most important world leaders of the 20th century whose long and complex life story represents a moment of historical change for people in South Africa and around the world. His death was something we regarded as sufficiently significant both to break into our scheduled coverage and extend our news programmes. His political and cultural influence was global and as both a UK and international broadcaster it is important that we reflected that, and the range of reactions to his death, to all our audiences.

BBC One viewers received updates on the storm in their area during regional bulletins broadcast at 2250 and in a weather forecast at 0030, on the BBC News website and on BBC local radio stations throughout the night. We are continuing to report on the aftermath of the storm.

Response from BBC Scheduling

Interruptions to programmes are rare but we regard the death of Nelson Mandela to be of significant public interest.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 07, 2013 9:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As usual, the PR people get to work and apply corporate PR puff to what was a genuine concern for many people.

I don't understand why the BBC felt it necessary to give over three TV channels (BBC1, BBC2 and BBC News) plus at least two radio networks (Radio 4, Radio 5Live and, no doubt, others) to the story. And all people were doing was talking about their "thoughts about the great man and his achievements". The only "news" was revealed at 8.50pm.

I too think Madeba was a remarkable man whose life and work is to be celebrated, but if the Beeb thinks the saturation coverage was justified then its senior management is deluded!


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 07, 2013 10:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree Colin, especially with the weather situation as it was.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 07, 2013 1:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree too. We all admire what he did for South Africa and the world ... but the more immediate concerns should have concentrated more on the dangers many in the UK were facing for their homes, livelihoods and possibly their lives.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 07, 2013 4:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree and for months and months on here I've been making the point that there is far too much concentration on foreign news to the detriment of important things which affect ordinary people in this country

I bet it's a different story in America where their home news rightly comes first and foreign news is fitted in certain short selected slots

Yes I dare say Mandela's death would have been reported there but not with the ridiculous saturation coverage we've seen here over the last few days Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 07, 2013 4:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It was on Fox after 10.30 as we flicked around and the usual programme was not on and they were reporting his death. Not sure about other channels.

One thing that was not reported over there was the Kenya shopping mall shooting which happened when we were there (late Sept) . We had Sirus radio in the car and tuned into the World Service, probably several days after it had happened. We'd heard nothing as the news channels were reporting on the devastating floods in Colorado that happened just before we arrived. Roads and whole towns were just swept away.

You hear very little British or European news over there.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 07, 2013 5:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Helen May wrote:
You hear very little British or European news over there.

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A couple of years ago I was talking on the phone to a guy (college educated) in New York and explained that I'm based about 50 miles north of London. "Are you anywhere near England?" he asked.

Last year my son was in a bar in San Diego and asked what local beers they served ("craft beer" is now popular in many US cities) and the server told him they have a local beer called Gwinezz. "Eh?" He meant Guinness. My son felt obliged to explain that Guinness was not a local beer!

To many Americans, the world ends at their national borders!
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 07, 2013 7:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

He should have been in the Brew Pub in Glenwood Springs Colorado where one of the craft beers was called No Name (the name of a local village)......

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 07, 2013 8:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My son did find a "Crapp Beer" on his travels. He said he had to try it out of sheer curiousity! He told the barman that such a beer would down well in the UK! Of course, the word doesn 't have the same connotations as in the UK and they didn 't get the joke !
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 07, 2013 8:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I remember when I was in America a few years ago I actually managed to persuade the locals in California that they should drink their beer at room temperature rather than in an almost frozen state

At first they thought I was completely raving mad but one month later by the time I returned home the bar tenders were complaining that all their customers were refusing to drink the beer from the chillers since they reckoned there was far more taste in it unchilled

I took a great deal of satisfaction from that Very Happy
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