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Clive55 · Joined: 08 Dec 2006 Posts: 1336

I can't recall who the trailer was for, but in it the presenter commented that doing a music show on radio was simple "It's just playing records & talkin g in between"
Whoever it was, he got it spot on! Too many Radio 2 dj's forget that all important criteria about what they do.
They think they are commedians
1)They are not
2)People mostly tune into music radio primarily to hear the music

Not some dj constantly clowning about

Rachel · Guest

It is mainly about the music, Clive but I’ve listened to one of those stations that plays just music- no or very little talking at all and it doesn’t really work- there’s no life in it, no buzz, no heartbeat, no soul, no depth, no sense of purpose. So for me the talking adds something that isn’t really definable, it just works. That something is probably different for everyone: which is why DJs can be very popular with some and not so with others. For me, with some DJs, it’s like a good friend has come round to your house to have a good natter, play some music and throw each around the kitchen, other DJs are like having your in-laws round for Christmas dinner, it’s kind of ok, a bit stiff, a bit formal, a bit be careful what you say, and you’re quite pleased to shut the door after they’ve left, and it always seems like they had a much better time than you did. Everyone is different! Smile

ColinB · Guest

I've been listening to good old Radio Caroline lately - especially over the weekend when Radio 2 is so bad - and there's a lot of good music with talking in between. The chat from presenters is never rambling, always adds context to the music and I often learn things about the artists and music that I never knew before.

It can be done. It's just that Mr. Shennan doesn't think it's important with Radio 2.

gutsygub · Joined: 15 Sep 2010 Posts: 111

how do you listen to Radio Caroline?

ColinB · Guest

I listen to it mainly via the Caroline App on my iPhone (which I usually via my WiFi router at home and 3G when I'm on the move), but you can listen to it online or on Sky channel 0199.

Info: http://www.radiocaroline.co.uk

The station is maintained / staffed entirely by volunteers, with most of its revenue coming from subscriptions and donations.

Clive55 · Joined: 08 Dec 2006 Posts: 1336

Rachel, I agree with what you say to a certain extent.
I just find that with some DJ's, like Ken Bruce, they imagine they are the greatest commedians in the world & everyone is interersted in them, not the music.
I am enjoying the KB show a bit more now, but I still feel he tries too hard & goes OTT with his "comedy" bits. It is getting the ballance just right.

Clive55 · Joined: 08 Dec 2006 Posts: 1336

It can never get as bad as some of the Pirates, tho! As I listen on DAB I don't come across pirate radio much but I recall years ago listening to them... some of those DJ's just never stopped nattering, "We've got a really wicked track comming up now, big shout out to the sarf london possee... real.ly wicked track.. big shout out to.." & so on. Never got to hear the "really wicked track!" Surprised

Rachel · Guest

I don’t really get that with Ken Bruce, Clive. He’s not top of my team sheet in the DJ world but I do listen to his show most days. Funny is not how I would describe him: does he attempt to be funny? If so it’s over my head: he’s more playful and teasing than he is funny, to me. Smile

ColinB · Guest

RockitRon · Joined: 07 Dec 2006 Posts: 7646

Ken Bruce has always lived in Terry Wogan's shadow, rather; a funny man or comedian he is not. Like TW, he has a quick wit and is best at the wry observation; the delivery is different, and that can sometimes make the humour sound forced.
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Jill Hickman · Joined: 15 Sep 2010 Posts: 31 Location: Oxfordshire

I find the talking OVER the most irritating thing. I don't listen to R2 much these days but sometimes get to hear Tony Blackburn on a Saturday - Oh dear - it's really good to hear some of the old chart music but at least Dale didn't talk over the beginning and end of "this is one of the best, one of my favourite etc., etc.,"

Why can't we just be allowed to listen to the music without the constant yapping over it? Evil or Very Mad

FleetingEileenM · Joined: 30 Mar 2010 Posts: 5767 Location: Hampshire

[quote="ColinB"]I've been listening to good old Radio Caroline lately - especially over the weekend when Radio 2 is so bad - and there's a lot of good music with talking in between. The chat from presenters is never rambling, always adds context to the music and I often learn things about the artists and music that I never knew before.

It can be done. It's just that Mr. Shennan doesn't think it's important with Radio 2.[/quote]
Sounds just like Carrington, Titchmarsh, Davies, Teal & Jacobs.

ColinB · Guest

Clive55 · Joined: 08 Dec 2006 Posts: 1336

FleetingEileenM · Joined: 30 Mar 2010 Posts: 5767 Location: Hampshire

Are Radcliffe and Maconie guilty of “talking over records”? I don't know as I never listen to them.

Perhaps all the evening programmes are for people who actually listen closely to music and like to know the background to the performers, composers etc.

It's unthinkable that Radio 2 would make ever make evening listening sound like the current daytime output. It would be a step too far and there would be a revolution with me in the front line (a very long front line as I'd be joined by many others!)

SantaFefan · Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 4:38 pm Post subject:

I'm afraid with a few exceptions, I prefer listening to "non-stop" music of the kind I like or, fancy listening to at the time. Internet radio is the answer for me now. No emails, texts, fellow Radio 2 member butt kissing, X Factor garbage or celebrity "news"... I can do without it all... Just great music! Razz

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undiscovered · Joined: 15 Sep 2010 Posts: 650 Location: Peterborough

Helen May · Joined: 10 Dec 2006 Posts: 19334 Location: Cheshire

littlepieces · Joined: 10 Jan 2010 Posts: 1098 Location: Lowestoft

I listen to absolute 90's which most of the time dosent have presenters and i do find it bland without one.
The best presenter is alex lester dosent talk to much and always times it just right
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Schizoidman · Joined: 20 Sep 2010 Posts: 1140 Location: Rural West Sussex

Talking over the end of records IMHO is the worst crime a presenter can commit. It shows complete disrespect towards the artist and to the listener. These people must realise that if it wasn't for the artists/singers, the egomaniacs would have to find a proper job.The music is far more important than any broadcaster.
The worst culprit was of course the Ginger Maniac.
I say 'was' because I think he's improved a bit recently. I remember on Drivetime a few years ago he said he'd been warned about talking over songs (but then promptly talked over the next one he played). Vine and Wright are just as guilty.

However, I also agree with the above posts which say that a presenter, even a talkative one, is better than just non stop music. A show needs a presenter to add his/her personality to the show.

ColinB · Guest

All the above posts confirm to me that Radio Caroline is bang on the button - they've got exactly the right mix. Funny how a station started on Easter Sunday 1964 is now setting a new (old) standard!!! Smile

Rachel · Guest

Colin, I was looking to see if Radio Caroline have a web-forum and they do! yay!

Here is the link- seems like a popular place. Smile

http://www.daparr.co.uk/radiocarolineforum/index.html

Thinking about joining it myself- are their radio shows as good as the forum? Wink

Today's track of the day is especially for you, Clive Smile

enjoy. I won't talk over it.

ColinB · Guest

RockitRon · Joined: 07 Dec 2006 Posts: 7646

Clive55 · Joined: 08 Dec 2006 Posts: 1336

I clicked on the link & it said the Radio Caroline Forum has been deleted Surprised

yesterday!!!
Maybe this forum could become R2&RCaroline OK Forum??

ColinB · Guest

The trouble with most forum software applications is that they're not Smartphone-friendly, and that's why newer social media forms have largely replaced forums as the primary form of online contact for people with shared interests.

The Caroline iPhone app really is very good - I'm pleased to see these truly independent broadcasters finding their way in the new media world at a time when the BBC and the like seem to have lost their way.

What I'm also impressed with is the fact that I can now listen to 3G-streamed stations in the car thanks to an iPod or phone and a Belkin iTrip FM sender or the like. That means that we can listen to the many, many alternatives to boring R2 without having to endure egos getting in the way of decent music. Unfortunately, Radio 2 is full of egos who insist on getting in the way of the (often variable quality) music!

JQW · Joined: 26 Aug 2010 Posts: 9

ColinB · Guest

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Schizoidman, did you see the Chris Evans sketch on the Impressions show?

Allegedly, he needs decaffinated coffee (so the sketch had it) to get through the programmes. Instead, the usual was given and Evans just spouted off throughout until an engineer injected him with a tranquillizer!

I can believe it!
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