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Blondehedgehog



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 12:45 pm    Post subject: Small Print Reply with quote

On the prog' to-day they discussed reading the small print on documents.

There is so much these days and I am guilty of not reading everything...been lucky so far...

Any thoughts or experiences?
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 1:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As a lawyer I always read the small print at least twice over on everything I sign up to and it really is worth people taking the time to do this

Most of it is easily understood but if in doubt just ask for clarification before you sign and if you don't get it, don't sign unless and until you do

It can save you an awful lot of time expense and stress in the long run
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 1:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I try and read the small print whenever I can - especially in dealings with our main banks because they're rip-off merchants and they're out to screw us at every turn in an effort to recoup our losses! (Is that a libellous comment? Good!).

Another example of small print we inspect carefully is that which describes the ingredients of food on packaging. It's a disgrace that so many ingredients are masked by obscure "E" numbers but as non-meat-eaters we're often presented with surprises when checking what's in many packaged foods.

I've just updated the "Terms of Use" of one of our websites after somebody bought something and then came back and said "Ah, but it didn't say such-and-such on the website". It does now!

Where I am guilty of not reading the small print is with software installation or updates. I just tend to click "Next" and then "I agree" when I don't know what I'm actually agreeing to! However, a recent update agreement for Apple's iTunes ran to 90 pages, so it's a bit time-consuming.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 1:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They did discuss the Apple's iTunes contract....saying it was too long...but so many online contracts do go on and on for pages....
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 1:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Will have to listen back to this as I've been doing some other bits and pieces.

Strangely I was just thinking (very tentatively!) about installing iTunes. I don't have an iPod as yet so don't use it but I believe you have to have everything converted to 'their' way of doing things so thought of looking into things.

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Sorry to sort of hijack your thread Hedgy Sad
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 1:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Sorry to sort of hijack your thread Hedgy Sad



No probs.

I have down loaded i tunes and it is updated when they send notice....but i did not read the whole contract..... Shocked
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 1:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Helen, my younger son has an Ipod and he loves it but one complaint he often makes is that he has to leave whatever he puts on the Ipod on the computer so if he downloads a lot of music the storage on the computer takes up a great deal of memory and slows the computer down

I'm no technical wizard when it comes to these things but perhaps Colin or someone else could let me know whether there is any way round the problem
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's true Ruddles even though they are compressed so not such huge files. My main problem and why I hesititate is that they don't use MP3 format but another type. All my things are in that format and you are stuck with it. Probably me being awkward but I'm not really into iPods or MP3 players in general!

Colin will put us all right I'm sure!

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 5:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Although there are three Windows PCs of varying descriptions in our house (two used for business) I'm pretty much an Apple user - and to that end I have a workhorse Mac for business and an iPhone for work/personal. We also have an assortment of iPod Shuffles, of which my wife has the latest.

iTunes is not just a music manager anymore, it's an all-inclusive media file manager as well as manager of movies, audio podcasts, video podcasts, images, general file downloads (for the Apple App Store) and also games and other apps that have been downloaded. The main thing here is that it's actually quite a powerful media player and converter, too.

I sometimes use iTunes to downconvert audio files that I've edited in a professional program (Apple SoundTrack Pro) to MP3 for onward publishing as podcasts, etc., and to then sync out to my iPhone or my wife's iPod Shuffle, etc.

iTunes handles all the files that end up on my iPhone and my wife's Shuffle (we have separate playlists on a single installation of iTunes to make things easy) on my networked Mac. Any other computer in the house can access the iTunes library, however, and play tracks via the WiFi router.

The point that's been made above relates to compression. When you import - say - a CD audio file into iTunes you will have the option to import it "as is" (either a 16-bit, 48kHz, Stereo audio file in AIFF or WAV format) or in one of a number of available MP3 compressions. It can be as low as 64kbps and as high as 384kbps. Obviously the higher rate results in better quality but also much bigger file sizes.

I generally compress soken content like radio recordings or podcasts at 160kbps or 182kbps, and they're fine. But there is a choice. It's also possible to convert them again once they're in iTunes, and of course you can export to other formats or media - such as to CD. (In the case of the latter, this involves up-sampling from MP3 back to AIFF or WAV which isn't always a good idea!).

I think what's being refered to above about Apple's "own way of doing things" relates to the use of AC3 and M4V compression codecs; these exist as part of Apple's policy of maintaining 3rd Party DRM (digital rights management), although they're still codecs that can be used to compress your own files.

There's are lots of applications - such as the paid-for upgrade of Quicktime Player to Quicktime Pro - which will enable either-way file format conversions, however.

iTunes is an immensely powerful application, a fact that the majority of users are unaware!
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 5:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for that Colin!

I think what puts me off is that I'd have to import all my stuff into iTunes and probably have it duplicated as I still want to be able to use different players etc.

I'm not desperate for an iPod, I've a couple of tiny MP3 players which I loaded some stuff onto when we last went away. I listened to it for half an hour, once............

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 6:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Helen May wrote:
I'm not desperate for an iPod, I've a couple of tiny MP3 players which I loaded some stuff onto when we last went away. I listened to it for half an hour, once............


Grab a wireless transmitting "iTrip" from Belkin or - better still - Griffin Technology and then you can listen in the car! Just tune your FM radio to its sending frequency and bob's yer uncle!

My wife has a Belkin sender which plugs into her Shuffle, which is "OK" but not perfect; my son has a Griffin iTrip plugged onto the bottom of his iPhone and it's very good indeed. He recently came round and raided my iTunes library prior to taking it on a road trip from LA up to San Francisco (via las Vegas) and he said it never failed on him once.
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