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Haven't heard this week's show but the one last week was a cracker!
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I haven't either Becky but love the old jingles he uses!
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I heard this week's and must admit I preferred the first year he did (1970) There were a few good tracks from 1990 which was the second featured year.
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| I agree with Helen-the jingles Tony uses are really good. They make the show sound so much better than when the show was pre-recorded. |
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I like how Tony can use those jingles in a way that doesn't make it sound like he's overusing them.
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| POTP is a must now on a Saturday afternoon, and agree with all the comments re the old jingles, I hope the Summmmmmer Radiooooooo one makes a return during our two weeks of summer.... |
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| Fred wrote: | | I like how Tony can use those jingles in a way that doesn't make it sound like he's overusing them. |
I agree. Given that Tony is presenting the show and that he's a stalwart of 60s pirate radio here in the UK, it's obvious that he'll always wish to emulate the revolutionary style of that era and this is something he does very well with the new POTPs. The style and pace of the show is perfectly in keeping with that magical era in radio broadcasting and I like it very much. |
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| kengeo wrote: | | POTP is a must now on a Saturday afternoon, and agree with all the comments re the old jingles, I hope the Summmmmmer Radiooooooo one makes a return during our two weeks of summer.... |
Is that all the summer we are getting this year? Two weeks?  |
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Perhaps with the recent great sucess of POTP they should give us the Radio 2 Roadshow in the summer months again with the old jingles
I think that could do a lot to promote the station Mr Shennan if you are reading this as long as you get the right presenters (no names mentioned) as we need to keep this thread positive for Rachel's sake 
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| mark occomore wrote: | | You can hear the TB jingles at. |
Can't we just hear them on the radio? |
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| ruddlescat wrote: | Perhaps with the recent great sucess of POTP they should give us the Radio 2 Roadshow in the summer months again with the old jingles
I think that could do a lot to promote the station Mr Shennan if you are reading this as long as you get the right presenters (no names mentioned) as we need to keep this thread positive for Rachel's sake |
I can't wait to see Ken Bruce or Steve Wright in shorts |
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| mark occomore wrote: | | I can't wait to see Ken Bruce or Steve Wright in shorts |
On the radio? |
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| ColinB wrote: | | mark occomore wrote: | | I can't wait to see Ken Bruce or Steve Wright in shorts |
On the radio? |
Maybe Mark is organising bus tours to see them at the Roadshow ? |
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I was disappointed to note that yet again with POTP today they failed to play the track Goodbye My Love by the Glitter Band even though it was in the Top Ten and I believe at number six
On the old R2 Messageboards Peta specifically assured me that there was no BBC ban on their records and that next time 1975 was covered their tracks would be played
As she is a member here I would therefore invite her to offer some kind of explanation (or more like excuse) for this sad state of affairs
In fact I was so annoyed for the first time ever I turned the show off
What is the BBC'S problem about playing a track by artists who were seperate from their former leader and who had no control and no knowledge of what he was going to get involved in later on in life 
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| ruddlescat wrote: | | As she is a member here I would therefore invite her to offer some kind of explanation (or more like excuse) for this sad state of affairs |
Is Peta still on the web team at the Beeb though? I got the impression that she was on contract to the company that moderated the messageboards on behalf of the BBC and that when a chunk of the boards were closed many of the contract staff went too. The BBC is seeing a massive clearout of people (not just staffers but also freelance contract staff too) and I'd be surprised if she's still there.
On a related note, I heard this week that the costs of redundancies and totally un-necessary relocations (such as the ridiculous move from London to Salford Quays) is costing upwards of £30 million - and this will have to be found from even greater savings to production and infrastructure.
Murdoch is watching from the wings...... |
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Colin very recently I heard that Peta is now a producer on Radio 2 but I don't know exactly in what capacity
It does not alter the fact that if she gave me an assurance that there was no ban on Glitter Band records and that any relevant tracks would be played on POTP next time 1975 was covered then for her assurance to have any meaning she would have had to speak with someone on the POTP production team which she presumably must have failed to do
I can't say I'm particularly shocked but I find the whole situation most unsatisfactory
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| ruddlescat wrote: | | Colin very recently I heard that Peta is now a producer on Radio 2 but I don't know exactly in what capacity |
Blimey............. do you think she'll let a deluge of emails and texts from a Certain Obsessive Listener through the net?
| ruddlescat wrote: | | It does not alter the fact that if she gave me an assurance that there was no ban on Glitter Band records and that any relevant tracks would be played on POTP next time 1975 was covered then for her assurance to have any meaning she would have had to speak with someone on the POTP production team which she presumably must have failed to do |
It's possible for there to be no "ban" on Glitter's material whilst at the same time no inclination by producers or presenters to play any of his stuff. If you get my drift......
Pity, because although I thought Glitter was awful when he first hit the charts in the early 70s, I actually changed my mind after he played a couple of charity gigs at Plymouth Polytechnic just as he hit the big time and his act was outrageously wonderful! |
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Peta joined my forum and told us of the relaunch of the Radio 2 forum but then disappeared so chances are the same has happened here...
We've also had discussions on my forum, Digital Spy and others about whether songs performed by people who are then convicted should still have their music played as it maybe was a big part of the charts or the record buying public's lives and also other people were involved from producers, song writers and other musicians etc...and so many have had run ins with the law but it probably depends what the crime is/was. As some are treated more harshly than others.
Some artists are also played because they have not been given such a high profile over what they did compared to others and some artists are treated differently in different countries. |
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It's possible for there to be no "ban" on Glitter's material whilst at the same time no inclination by producers or presenters to play any of his stuff. If you get my drift......
Pity, because although I thought Glitter was awful when he first hit the charts in the early 70s, I actually changed my mind after he played a couple of charity gigs at Plymouth Polytechnic just as he hit the big time and his act was outrageously wonderful! |
It should always be remembered that Gary didn't sing on any Glitterband records. They were merely Gary's backing band who managed to have some hits around 1974 / 75. There was no Gary on any of them. I suspect it to be a guilt by association thing, which is a shame as they released some good tracks in their own right.
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Either that or perhaps the BBC thinks its listeners are so stupid they can't tell the difference between Glitter's own stuff and Glitter Band tracks
It's quite outrageous that these tracks are never played by artists who are totally innocent when we regularly hear tracks by George Michael and Boy George and many others
Talk about double standards 
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| ruddlescat wrote: | Colin very recently I heard that Peta is now a producer on Radio 2 but I don't know exactly in what capacity
It does not alter the fact that if she gave me an assurance that there was no ban on Glitter Band records and that any relevant tracks would be played on POTP next time 1975 was covered then for her assurance to have any meaning she would have had to speak with someone on the POTP production team which she presumably must have failed to do
I can't say I'm particularly shocked but I find the whole situation most unsatisfactory |
I've seen Peta as the name used by the producer replying to listeners' SMS texts during the live video streaming of Chris Evans' Friday shows with Elton John and David Walliams.
Which may or may not also explain some of the strange moderation during the last days of the R2 messageboard.
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| RockitRon wrote: | | Which may or may not also explain some of the strange moderation during the last days of the R2 messageboard. |
.... and why all negative comments about Evans were erased from the record as quickly as they could be posted!
I got banned from the R2MB for accusing the mods of being the Chris Evans PR Dept in disguise - I guess I hit the nail on the head with that one! |
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| RockitRon wrote: | | ruddlescat wrote: | Colin very recently I heard that Peta is now a producer on Radio 2 but I don't know exactly in what capacity
It does not alter the fact that if she gave me an assurance that there was no ban on Glitter Band records and that any relevant tracks would be played on POTP next time 1975 was covered then for her assurance to have any meaning she would have had to speak with someone on the POTP production team which she presumably must have failed to do
I can't say I'm particularly shocked but I find the whole situation most unsatisfactory |
I've seen Peta as the name used by the producer replying to listeners' SMS texts during the live video streaming of Chris Evans' Friday shows with Elton John and David Walliams.
Which may or may not also explain some of the strange moderation during the last days of the R2 messageboard. |
It was right after that live stream with Richard Madeley that Peta stuck her claws into me for daring to suggest that the whole video was a waste of money and that radio was to be listened to rather than watched. Anything said against Evans and you could almost see her hackles rise!
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This information all ties in because the person who told me about what Peta was doing was connected with the livestreaming of the Manics 'In Concert' gig in Blackwood at the end of last month
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| Helen May wrote: | | It was right after that live stream with Richard Madeley that Peta stuck her claws into me for daring to suggest that the whole video was a waste of money and that radio was to be listened to rather than watched. Anything said against Evans and you could almost see her hackles rise! |
I think that from the (appalling) manner in which the final weeks of the R2MBs were managed it was clear that they were under orders to ensure that the Evans breakfast Show was projected in the best possible light and to eradicate anything negative.
Closing them was the best thing they could have done in that context. |
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Agree, what got on my nerves was the fact that a certain person could get away with blue murder and yet any post questioning in the most polite ways the appointment of Evans was deleted.
Still sure he/she was a BBC stooge. |
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| kengeo wrote: | Agree, what got on my nerves was the fact that a certain person could get away with blue murder and yet any post questioning in the most polite ways the appointment of Evans was deleted.
Still sure he/she was a BBC stooge. |
Perhaps it was Peta herself? 
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| ColinB wrote: | | I think that from the (appalling) manner in which the final weeks of the R2MBs were managed it was clear that they were under orders to ensure that the Evans breakfast Show was projected in the best possible light and to eradicate anything negative. |
You just can't help it can you? A thread which started out discussing Pick of The Pops has now turned into Chris Evans being given the blame for the closure of the R2 message boards.......  |
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Fair enough, Tony Blackburn's Pick Of The Pop's, is a great show, I've series linked it on my PVR and listen to it on Saturday night.
Its a shame that its not on for more than two hours a week, then I could listen to it every morning instead the puerile crap that is the CE breakfast show....... |
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| Shaky Fan wrote: | | ColinB wrote: | | I think that from the (appalling) manner in which the final weeks of the R2MBs were managed it was clear that they were under orders to ensure that the Evans breakfast Show was projected in the best possible light and to eradicate anything negative. |
You just can't help it can you? A thread which started out discussing Pick of The Pops has now turned into Chris Evans being given the blame for the closure of the R2 message boards....... |
Here we go again. If you scroll back through this thread you'll see that in fact the topic veered in the direction of discussing Peta - and my reference to evans was in the context of what many people consider to be outright censorship in favour of the Beeb's pro-Evans PR stance. So, in effect, the discussion is about Peta's role in that context and not the "Chris Evans Breakfast Show" (or whatever it's called).
If you have a constant need to highlight what you call "anti-Evans whinges" I suggest that perhaps you should consider your own hang-ups first before sticking me and others on the hook every time Evans' name is mentioned!
| kengeo wrote: | | Its a shame that its not on for more than two hours a week, then I could listen to it every morning instead the puerile crap that is the CE breakfast show....... |
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| kengeo wrote: | Fair enough, Tony Blackburn's Pick Of The Pop's, is a great show, I've series linked it on my PVR and listen to it on Saturday night.
Its a shame that its not on for more than two hours a week, then I could listen to it every morning instead the puerile crap that is the CE breakfast show....... |
Oh gosh no, tis a good show, yes, but anyone could present that show, it really is about the music, TB is ok, a bit of a blast from the past, much like the music, but every day, would be too much for me. |
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| Rachel wrote: | | kengeo wrote: | Fair enough, Tony Blackburn's Pick Of The Pop's, is a great show, I've series linked it on my PVR and listen to it on Saturday night.
Its a shame that its not on for more than two hours a week, then I could listen to it every morning instead the puerile crap that is the CE breakfast show....... |
Oh gosh no, tis a good show, yes, but anyone could present that show, it really is about the music, TB is ok, a bit of a blast from the past, much like the music, but every day, would be too much for me. |
Indeed. In fact, she wouldn't have used the word "crap", but my mother, then in her 40s/50s, certainly used the word "puerile" to describe Tony Blackburn's Breakfast Show of the 1960s/70s.
We've all noted how he sounds "as good as he always has", so there'd be little point in substituting his version of the brand in place of Evans'.
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| RockitRon wrote: | | In fact, she wouldn't have used the word "crap", but my mother, then in her 40s/50s, certainly used the word "puerile" to describe Tony Blackburn's Breakfast Show of the 1960s/70s. |
I too never rated Blackburn's late-60s shows on Radio One, although that's largely due to the fact that station was a very poor imitation of BigL anyhow and so any effort by the Beeb to come up with an adequate replacement was doomed from the start. The first two or three years of Radio One was truly atrocious in my opinion.
However, in later years I've come to respect Blackburn for his consistency and his love of soul music. Although I thought his style was verging on "crap" back in the late 60s I wouldn't describe it as such now.
| RockitRon wrote: | | We've all noted how he sounds "as good as he always has", so there'd be little point in substituting his version of the brand in place of Evans'. |
Personally, I think he's better than he was in the late 60s, and I think he'd make a very good R2 breakfast presenter - much better than the idiot who occupies the slot right now anyhow. |
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I have to disagree with you Colin about your comments on Radio One in the early years although, like you, I never liked Tony Blackburn in those days although I do now
There were some good shows at the start of Radio One including Sounds of the Sixties Top Gear and my own favourite David Symonds
It was also a great period in music which helped a lot
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The shows you mention were indeed good shows, but they were few and far between compared to the run-of-the-mill daytime/early evening stuff. Don't forget that R1 shared its airtime with R2 for much of the time, and needletime was a major restricting factor on what music could be played. We had countless occasions when the BBC Radio Danceband would be playing their interpretation of Jimi Henrix's "Purple Haze" and the like because of third obligation to use real musicians in favour of records.
I always John Peel's producer, John Walters, commenting in a TV documentary about the early days of R1 in late 67 and 68, that he didn't know the BBC ever got away with what they did on the station and that it was a very poor substitute for the pirates who had only recently been sunk.
Compared to the best of BigL and Caroline it really was utter rubbish in my opinion - excepting John peel's contributions in Top Grar and later, of course, Sounds of The Seventies and then his own show.
I also liked Rosco's Round Table, I recall, and Johnnie Walker's 9.00am-10.00 am show, but very little else. Oh - and "What's the recipe today, Jim" is a jingle that grates and which I can remember from times when I bunked off school!!! |
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I too disliked Tony Blackburn, especially in his latter years at Radio 1, trendy young me thought he was laughable, with his daft jokes, and crass style.
But after listening to the bank holiday specials and his presentation of the live POTP's makes me view him in a new light, and appreciate what an old pro he really is.
But the one quality that makes me respect him more than anything, and its a quality that Evans will NEVER own, and that is his sheer ability to not take himself seriously. |
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| kengeo wrote: | | But the one quality that makes me respect him more than anything, and its a quality that Evans will NEVER own, and that is his sheer ability to not take himself seriously. |
I couldn't agree more. What's also noticeable is that his musical knowledge, coupled with his seemingly inexhaustible supply of interesting and relevant anecdotes, is what makes POTP now. |
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| ColinB wrote: | | kengeo wrote: | | But the one quality that makes me respect him more than anything, and its a quality that Evans will NEVER own, and that is his sheer ability to not take himself seriously. |
I couldn't agree more. What's also noticeable is that his musical knowledge, coupled with his seemingly inexhaustible supply of interesting and relevant anecdotes, is what makes POTP now. |
I loved the anecdote he told the other day when he played Duran Duran, when he said that some chap on a chart countdown once called them Durrran Durrran, a good example of being able to laugh at himself.... |
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I can see the point that when Radio One first began it might have been seen as fairly lightweight compared to the Pirate stations which it sought to replace
I think the old needle time problem did seriously restrict its ability to fulfil its full remit but I thought it was much better ion those early days than in the later years or perhaps it was just me getting long in the tooth and too old for the station 
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