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mark occomore



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 9:46 am    Post subject: Japan Tsunami Latest News Reply with quote

A massive earthquake with a magnitude of 8.9 has struck North East Japan which set of Tsunami on Friday 11th March 2011.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 9:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 11:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mark, are you obsessed with posting links to news stories that most of us are already familiar with?
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 2:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is a NEWS AND CURRENT AFFAIRS section we post on? I thought people maybe interested like other subjects to discuss? Do you and others want to discuss this disaster? Digital Spy do the same sort of thing?
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 3:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mark occomore wrote:
This is a NEWS AND CURRENT AFFAIRS section we post on? I thought people maybe interested like other subjects to discuss? Do you and others want to discuss this disaster? Digital Spy do the same sort of thing?


The point is that by the time you post a link it isn't news anyway!!! I'm sure that most people will have either have seen such a story on TV, heard it on the radio or seen a summary on their default homepage before they log in here.

If you do wish to post news-agency style stories at least tell us something we don't know!
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 9:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I didn't realise Colin, you own this forum? I now know...
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 9:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mark occomore wrote:
I didn't realise Colin, you own this forum? I now know...


This is John's forum, Marko. I do run other forums though! (And I don't allow news-feed scraping posts....!)
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 10:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My heart and thoughts go out to Japanesse people. Watching the pictures I'm amazed if anyone has survided this. 4 bullet trains and a cruise ship are missing. Nuclear plant could have a radiation leak which is 1,000 times normal level. It will take years to get back to norm.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 10:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ColinB wrote:
mark occomore wrote:
This is a NEWS AND CURRENT AFFAIRS section we post on?


The point is that by the time you post a link it isn't news anyway!!!!


Colin, as Mark says this is a news section, and it's popularity indicates that folks here DO like to talk about current affairs.

ALL news is old news, but until someone posts a NEW TOPIC then we usually can't discuss it!
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 11:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

John W wrote:
Colin, as Mark says this is a news section, and it's popularity indicates that folks here DO like to talk about current affairs.


John, that's not my point. What I'm referring to is this kind of thing:

Marko wrote:
A massive earthquake with a magnitude of 8.9 has struck North East Japan setting of Tsunami warnings for the Pacific coast of Russia and Hawaii


to which one's likely response will usually be: "Yes, I know" - especially when such a statement is posted a few hours after the story broke and coverage of which has already saturated the media. What's the point?
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 11:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm inclined to agree with Colin.

Don't get me wrong I like to see news topics but if they were put in a slightly different way maybe they'd generate more discussion? Lets say instead of just stating what has happened with a link you could say something like 'dreadful news from Japan about the earthquake, has anyone any relatives or friends out there?'. When something like this happens there isn't an awful lot you can say, which of course doesn't mean you don't feel sorry for the people.

2 fairly recent examples were the floods in Queensland where Colin and was it Mark Mayhew (?) had family and Blondehedghog in Egypt. Both put personal comments which are IMHO always good to read.

Just my thoughts!

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 1:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Helen May wrote:
2 fairly recent examples were the floods in Queensland where Colin and was it Mark Mayhew (?) had family and Blondehedghog in Egypt. Both put personal comments which are IMHO always good to read.


Interestingly, Helen, I was talking to my cousin's son, who lives on the south side of Brisbane and just a metre above the max high flood point, via Skype a couple of days ago and he mentioned that the "community spirit" during the flood emergency was amazing. Apparently, the makeshift agencies that were set up to manage volunteering services were inundated with volunteers and there were waiting lists of people wanting to be assigned jobs to do. Apparently, his girlfriend volunteered to help the management of the volunteers!

Much clearing-up work has now been complete, largely because they've been experiencing some very hot weather, and in their district the only tell-tale signs of flooding are the "high water mark" on some of the lower-lying buildings.

Anyway, I digress......
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 6:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Colin, Helen,

Yes I take your points, but that suggests that if you have no personal involvement in a story then you won't want to comment in the topic thread. Fine, just ignore Mark's messages.

Mark,

Try and avoid just posting a 'headline' and a link. If you have nothing else to say then maybe don't bother.

Incidently my brother and his wife were holidaying in New Zealand/Aussie last month and had flown out of Christchurch that morning, to Brisbane. So they had a close shave I suppose - they'd been in the (now destroyed) cathedral the day before!

Anyway, there was much discussion in the family about all that but I didn't think to mention it on this forum Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 9:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is a developing story with more pictures showing the moment the tsunami hit the region! 10,000 people are feared dead in Minamisanrika! A race is still on to rescue people who are caught up in this disaster where towns are cut off! There are also developments still happening at the fukushima nuclear plant number one.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 11:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As John says best ignored....Colin you are as bad!!! Wink If you run these forums then you should know this...shouldn't you?! Rather than being naughty! Rolling Eyes Very Happy

On a personal note as Helen says, I received a phone call from my step-son yesterday afternoon from Japan, not long after I heard the news on the radio. I knew straight away they would be ok because they were much further South. He was clearly shaken by it though (no pun intended) and wanted my mum-in-law's phone no as she had phoned in a panic. to check her Grandson and Great Grandchildren were ok.

It was clear from what he said to me in the conversation having a major effect on the country and was very distressing to everyone involved.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2011 7:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A friend's son and his family live in Tokyo. They were all in different parts of the city when the earthquake happened. Dad got to the nursery to collect their daughter and Mum walked for 8 hours to get home from work. They are very worried about the next quake which is expected in the next few days apparently.

It beats me how anyone would choose to emigrate to a country poised above unstable tectonic plates.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2011 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I read the strength of the earthquake moved the island of Japan 2.4 meters and also moved the Earth axis by 10cm.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2011 8:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes I read something similar too Mark that Japan had moved 12 feet nearer to the USA and 2ft downwards and that it had affected the earth's axis by a hair I suppose 10cm would be that Smile

Eileen I don't think life is quite as simple as not moving to an area with potential earthquakes, which is absolutely a massive area if you think about it. My step-son fell in love with a Japanese girl, married her and moved out there over 14 years ago and has made a good life for himself out there, they bought there own house about 3 years ago and that is a very big achievement in Japan, they even have a small garden! She doesn't want to live in the UK and he has become totally fluent in Japanese, both the children look and only really speak Japanese. He teaches English but I think by the time he gets home he feels too tired to teach his own children too much Very Happy

It would also rule out most of the West coast of the States as well. The world is full of natural disasters and sadly there isn't a lot we can do about it except deal with them when they happen. Anyone of us could just go on holiday somewhere, even in Europe and get caught up in one for example the Canaries in particular are a ticking time bomb from the point of view of Volcanic activity. The last major eruption on Lanzorote lasted 6 years! Or a harmless trip to Sorrento could result in a similar experieince![/img]
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2011 8:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In my opinion the best policy is simply to stay in Britain

Whilst this country has gone downhill over recent years it still has far more to recommend it than some of these disaster prone areas of the world

Of course people born and bred in disaster areas don't have that option but like Eileen I would be very wary about relocating to such places

Remember the old saying 'The Grass is always greener on the other side'
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 1:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was staying in Fukushima City a few weeks ago (approx 40miles from the nuclear power station) and know people who work there, fortunately they are all safe.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 8:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is some more fantastic footage being shown on the news. I just can't see how much longer the media can chew over this!! Sooner a later people will tune out and we will see Points Of View or Newswatch talking about people moaning about too much of the same news item. So guessing there needs to be a balance at sometime or another.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 10:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You took the words right out of my mouth Mark,to coin a famous record title

I'm currently watching the BBC news and more than 22 minutes of the allocated 30 minutes has been taken up with foreign news including the Japanese earthquake and Libya and other middle east news

Whilst I have tremendous sympathy for the people affected by these disasters I live in Britain and I don't want to see twenty different versions of how the tidal wave hit Japan but I would like to see some decent coverage of what happened in Britain today

The earthquake happened several days ago and I have no problem with the BBC showing programmes about the aftermath but please not on the main news every single night
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 11:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the broadcast media coverage of the Japanese disaster is lame and of a tabloid, sensationalist nature. There's hardly a second of video footage of the tsunami that isn't sourced from YouTube - and what appears on YouTube is recycled by the news media many hours later. All of the "eyewitness amateur video" that the BBC, Sky and CNN has been showing has been shot by "amateur" camcorder users and because of their access deal to YouTube clips they're able to repackage them and show. One clip shown on Newsnight last night was prefaced with "the latest clips from Japan" when in fact I'd seen them on YouTube (via a Twitter feed) 12 or more hours before.

What's interesting and unique about the clips coming out of Japan is that because a much higher proportion of japanese people have HD video cameras, we're getting much better footage. How the hell the broadcasters have the cheek to call it "amateur" is really laughable. Many Jap camcorder owner/users seem to be able to hold their cameras steady as well - not like many people in other countries whose mobile phone clips are appalling.

I think this disaster is the first we've seen where YouTube users have provided the best, most representative, evidence of the events as they unfolded and where the broadcasters have simply been left behind with lacklustre coverage.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 8:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good points and can't disagree because the Japanese well have always been at the forefront of video recording on a personal level...so it has been proven to be true in this case.

Step-son has posted that he is becoming increasingly worried at the turn of events particularly the nuclear one...whether this is real or media hype affecting them I don't know but we will phone in the next few days and see how things are.
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