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ColinB
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 Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 3:35 pm Post subject: It's 2-for-1 (BOGOF) Tuesday.... |
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.....at Domino's Pizza!!!!!!!
Phew! I nearly forgot!
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RockitRon
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| Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 4:42 pm Post subject: |
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Pizza Takeaway special offers are a bit like furniture shop Sales, and it would be much better if the single article was a realistic price to begin with.
We get loads of junk mail addressed to "Pizza Lover", and it ain't me - the average takeaway pizza tastes too much like the cardboard box it's delivered in.
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ColinB
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| Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 4:43 pm Post subject: |
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| My local Domino's Pizzas are definitely better than most - and almost (but not quite) as good as those we've sampled in the home of pizza - Naples. |
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RockitRon
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| Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 4:49 pm Post subject: |
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It's my son's fault. He gets them, especially when we're out or on holiday and he can't be bothered to use what we've left for him. He likes Dominos the best as well.
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Ian Robinson
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| Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 6:11 pm Post subject: |
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Dominos have their appeal, but many other takeaways usually do as good (or better) for lower prices.
(Of course, there are some rubbish ones too - at least you know what you're getting with Dominos as they're the same everywhere) |
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ColinB
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| Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 6:30 pm Post subject: |
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| Ian Robinson wrote: | | Dominos have their appeal, but many other takeaways usually do as good (or better) for lower prices. |
The only UK place we've had get more authentic pizza than Domino's is an Italian restaurant called Valentino's in Bournemouth. It's a long way to drive for a pizza though! 
It's actually quicker to fly to Naples, come to think of it. Good idea, Strothers! |
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Rachel
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| Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 7:11 am Post subject: |
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| I've not had a pizza since 2005 when a guy from work asked me out on a date- we went to see Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy at some out of town Cinema complex near Exeter or was it Taunton, then had a pizza at some pizza place- can't remember which one but I remember having to get my own salad. What?! Yes really! What's the point of having waitress service for just half the meal? Who came up with that brainchild? I had to get up, walk across a large room, stand in a long queue, and then serve myself. Outrageous. So pizza places are right off my list. After that he suggested sex in the back of his car. What- just here in the car-park? It's not even dark! Needless to say, he's not the chap I married a year later. |
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RockitRon
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| Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 7:56 am Post subject: |
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Same as the Harvester pub chain where you queue up and serve yourself salad (probably owned by the same company). Tried once, without the after-dinner entertainment - not disposed to repeat the experience.
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ColinB
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| Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 9:46 am Post subject: |
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| Rachel wrote: | | I had to get up, walk across a large room, stand in a long queue, and then serve myself. Outrageous. So pizza places are right off my list. |
What - all of them? What about Pizza Express or Zizzi's or Strada? You can keep your bum firmly on your seat at those places. And the pizza is really, really good. Heck, I'm feeling hungry now.......
| RockitRon wrote: | | Same as the Harvester pub chain where you queue up and serve yourself salad (probably owned by the same company). |
But you can eat as much salad as you like! I don't like franchise outlets much, even though the "format" idea means that in theory you know what to expend from the brand wherever it is. I've had some really bad experiences in Harvesters (we have three here in MK) but the weekend before last we were in Plymouth and my parents wanted to go to their local Haervester outlet so we did and it was actually very good. Service was excellent even though it was busy - much better than several of the ordinary pubs around there. And it was cheap. |
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Rachel
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| Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 9:58 am Post subject: |
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| ColinB wrote: | | Rachel wrote: | | I had to get up, walk across a large room, stand in a long queue, and then serve myself. Outrageous. So pizza places are right off my list. |
What - all of them? What about Pizza Express or Zizzi's or Strada? You can keep your bum firmly on your seat at those places. And the pizza is really, really good. Heck, I'm feeling hungry now.......
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Yep all of them, that was my first experience of a Pizza Place- I won't risk another one- life is too short to set yourself up for disappointment. Excitement and adventure are all very well but there's nothing exciting or adventurous about a pizza. Not for me anyway.
I would never trust anything on BOGOF. Think about it. How can they give you two for the price of one? Either they are so massively expensive (ripping you off) normally, giving them a huge profit, so that on quiet days they can afford to “give away” half of their product for one day a week just to make their restaurants look popular. Or is it that they have a shed-load of poor quality product or near to be thrown away product to shift? If it’s the first one, then I don’t deal with rip-off merchants, and why do they bother anyway – just have fewer customers at full price- avoid the advertising costs and stigma that goes with BOGOF. If it’s the latter then why would anyone want to eat poor quality pizza- even at half price? I just don’t get it. |
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ColinB
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| Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 10:42 am Post subject: |
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| Rachel wrote: | | I would never trust anything on BOGOF. Think about it. How can they give you two for the price of one? Either they are so massively expensive (ripping you off) normally, giving them a huge profit |
Nope. a BOGOF is a promotional device to attract sales. It could be a loss-leader to generate secondary business. It's a very good proven device. My wife used to work in Argos' central buying department and used to set up Bogofs all the time, often at a day's notice to act as a "spoiler" against the competition. Either the company foots the cost of the discount or the supplier does - or both. They invariably helped to increase sales whilst also offering good value to customers. It's a win-win (and proven to be so).
The Domino's Tuesday 2-for-1 deal is good because although you get two for the price of one, you'll often find people ordering side items at full price. Pizza is cheap enough to make (in material terms) so the losses are offset by the profit on other items. Easy. Everyone's happy.
| Rachel wrote: | | If it’s the latter then why would anyone want to eat poor quality pizza- even at half price? I just don’t get it. |
I don't eat poor pizza. I'm very fussy. I've eaten authentic Neopolitan pizza, after all. The Tuesday Bogof deal is a good deal - especially if we have family around. Love it!
Not quite as good as "the real thing" from Napoli but not bad.... Extra Mozzarella with mushroom please. |
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| Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 10:54 am Post subject: |
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| ColinB wrote: | | Rachel wrote: | | I would never trust anything on BOGOF. Think about it. How can they give you two for the price of one? Either they are so massively expensive (ripping you off) normally, giving them a huge profit |
Nope. a BOGOF is a promotional device to attract sales. It could be a loss-leader to generate secondary business. It's a very good proven device. They invariably helped to increase sales whilst also offering good value to customers. It's a win-win (and proven to be so).
The Domino's Tuesday 2-for-1 deal is good because although you get two for the price of one, you'll often find people ordering side items at full price. Pizza is cheap enough to make (in material terms) so the losses are offset by the profit on other items. Easy. Everyone's happy.
| Rachel wrote: | | If it’s the latter then why would anyone want to eat poor quality pizza- even at half price? I just don’t get it. |
I don't eat poor pizza. I'm very fussy. I've eaten authentic Neopolitan pizza, after all. The Tuesday Bogof deal is a good deal - especially if we have family around. Love it!
Not quite as good as "the real thing" from Napoli but not bad.... Extra Mozzarella with mushroom please. |
That's all rubbish- you've been sucked in. |
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RockitRon
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| Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 11:17 am Post subject: |
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| Rachel wrote: | | ColinB wrote: | | Rachel wrote: | | I would never trust anything on BOGOF. Think about it. How can they give you two for the price of one? Either they are so massively expensive (ripping you off) normally, giving them a huge profit |
Nope. a BOGOF is a promotional device to attract sales. It could be a loss-leader to generate secondary business. It's a very good proven device. They invariably helped to increase sales whilst also offering good value to customers. It's a win-win (and proven to be so).
The Domino's Tuesday 2-for-1 deal is good because although you get two for the price of one, you'll often find people ordering side items at full price. Pizza is cheap enough to make (in material terms) so the losses are offset by the profit on other items. Easy. Everyone's happy.
| Rachel wrote: | | If it’s the latter then why would anyone want to eat poor quality pizza- even at half price? I just don’t get it. |
I don't eat poor pizza. I'm very fussy. I've eaten authentic Neopolitan pizza, after all. The Tuesday Bogof deal is a good deal - especially if we have family around. Love it!
Not quite as good as "the real thing" from Napoli but not bad.... Extra Mozzarella with mushroom please. |
That's all rubbish- you've been sucked in. |
 Certainly have with the BOGOFs
It is a promotional tool, but not a loss-leader - the big players could easily price whatever the product or service is at half the price and still make a profit. I might concede that in the case of a pub/restaurant/pizzeria it's slightly less of a rip-off [than a supermarket] because they're not encouraging you to buy more than you want or need, unless you eat both pizzas yourself, there's also less likelihood of waste.
Can't speak for Argos, obviously, but I've read the trade magazines, and I can safely say that almost all the supermarket special offers and BOGOFs are paid for by the manufacturers, not the stores.
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ColinB
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| Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 12:31 pm Post subject: |
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| Rachel wrote: | | That's all rubbish- you've been sucked in. |
Thank you, Rachel.
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It is a promotional tool, but not a loss-leader - the big players could easily price whatever the product or service is at half the price and still make a profit. |
That simply isn't always the case. There are lots of cases when they're loss-leaders. For instance - there have been many times when my wife would see TV ads running some of "her" lines in the middle of Coronation St or whatever tnad she'd say "That Bogof is costing us £1.00 per unit" (Ie: It's selling at £1.00 less than CP). It's a calculated loss-leader - which is obviously a gamble but it works most of the time.
When Corrie used to run on Sunday eves, the company's ad agency would have created a 10-sec ad for showing in the middle of the programme in order to announce the latest offer; the detail and price offers in those commercials were (are) often decided on Friday afternoon and produced over the weekend in order to put the offers in front of audiences on Sunday at 7.45pm. This action would always be reflected in the following day's trading figures for those ranges.
| RockitRon wrote: | | Can't speak for Argos, obviously, but I've read the trade magazines, and I can safely say that almost all the supermarket special offers and BOGOFs are paid for by the manufacturers, not the stores. |
Again, not always true. There are many times when a deal with be done with a supplier, who will be asked to make a contribution to the price reduction, but there always many occasions when the company will take the last-minute decision to shift stock items by offering a Bogof at their own expense or by bundling with other products.
My wife worked in Buying at Argos for 10 years on Sports, Garden Furniture, Children's Toys and then - lastly - Pre-school ranges. She can tell you how it makes very good business sense to offer Bogofs, Bogshps and so on.
By the way, black olives on my pizza please. Thanks! |
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Ian Robinson
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| Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 1:29 pm Post subject: |
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| ColinB wrote: | | My wife worked in Buying at Argos for 10 years on Sports, Garden Furniture, Children's Toys and then - lastly - Pre-school ranges. |
When did she leave? |
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ColinB
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| Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 2:46 pm Post subject: |
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| Ian Robinson wrote: | | ColinB wrote: | | My wife worked in Buying at Argos for 10 years on Sports, Garden Furniture, Children's Toys and then - lastly - Pre-school ranges. |
When did she leave? |
November 2009. They offered her a generous redundancy package (after 21 years with the company) so she grabbed the cheque and legged it sharpish. |
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Ian Robinson
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| Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 4:55 pm Post subject: |
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| ColinB wrote: | | Ian Robinson wrote: | | ColinB wrote: | | My wife worked in Buying at Argos for 10 years on Sports, Garden Furniture, Children's Toys and then - lastly - Pre-school ranges. |
When did she leave? |
November 2009. They offered her a generous redundancy package (after 21 years with the company) so she grabbed the cheque and legged it sharpish. |
Hmmmm! That's the same time I left my job as a supplier of garden stuff, toys and pre-school ranges to Argos! I wonder if I've met her, or she knows my old boss Gary Tyrer? |
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