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littlepieces · Joined: 10 Jan 2010 Posts: 1098 Location: Lowestoft

On a floyd website it's saying there is going to be a doc about the band as well as dave gilmour speaking with Johnnie walker on sounds of the 70's.
There will also be a prog about dark side of the moon.

Woo hoo
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ruddlescat · Joined: 16 Sep 2010 Posts: 18010 Location: Near Chester

I used to like Pink Floyd in the days when Sid Barrett was their main singer and songwriter

After he left I think they completely lost their way Sad

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ruddlescat · Joined: 16 Sep 2010 Posts: 18010 Location: Near Chester

Oh yes Angela - I'll definitely given it a listen
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littlepieces · Joined: 10 Jan 2010 Posts: 1098 Location: Lowestoft

Shine on is just fantastic.I lose myself listening to it it has that affect on me
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Sorry about the typos in my above post. I was typing on my iPhone whilst in front of the telly. Not easy!

ruddlescat · Joined: 16 Sep 2010 Posts: 18010 Location: Near Chester

Sorry folks I have to disagree

I have never understood how the critics could regard 'Dark Side of the Moon' and 'The Wall' as anything other than self indulgent mediocre overrated and overhyped rubbish and that's putting it politely

Lucky I'm feeling in a good mood this morning otherwise I might have said what I really think Smile

Anyway as I said I'll give it a listen as Mr Walker is presenting but probably on I Player so I can fast forward past most of the boring bits

I realise I am probably in a small minority with my views on Pink Floyd but I think it would be totally hypocritical to lie about such things simply to court popularity
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ruddlescat · Joined: 16 Sep 2010 Posts: 18010 Location: Near Chester

Yes at the end of the day it all comes down to matters of individual taste

I just get rather annoyed that certain artists who benefit from the 'hype' factor come to be regarded by the media in an almost 'God' like way when there were many other equally good if not better artists who were around at the same time who hardly ever get any media exposure

I suppose the nearest thing I can recall to compare to Floyd from that era would be King Crimson who were in my opinion far superior in every respect but when did we last hear any of their superb output on Radio 2 let alone be blessed with a decent documentary?

The same could be said of The Moody Blues, The Strawbs and many others from that time

It's the old music business thing that it doesn't matter how good certain artists may be, it all comes down to which ones the music media tell us are 'cool' at the time and once artists have that status they can get away with putting out virtually anything and it is automatically regarded as classic output

I recall several people bringing Pink Floyd Albums to school in the early 70's when I was in the Sixth Form and also Captain Beefheart Albums who was another artist who was seen as 'cool' at that time

Most of them couldn't stand either but simply pretended to like those artists as a way of demonstrating their supposed levels of trendiness and sophistication

Personally I've never been scared of dislikiing what I regard as poor simply because my views don't happen to suit prevailing trends and equally I have never been put off liking musical output just because the music press might slag individual artists off from time to time

When it comes to such things in my view there is far too much 'sheep' mentality instead of judging such matters based on ones own opinion
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Lord Evan Elpuss · Joined: 10 Dec 2006 Posts: 3415 Location: Cloud Cuckoo Land

To me, there are two tracks that sum up what's gone wrong with the music biz, and I include TV and radio in that, they are 'Rex Bob Lowenstein' by Mark Germino and 'Money Becomes King' by Tom Petty which is on his Last DJ album. OK while on the subject of The Last DJ Lets add a third track 'Joe' from that album. Who might that remind you of?
Alice Cooper also alluded to this when he was on Bob Harris' Old Grey Whistle Test anniversary show a fortnight ago, when he talked about the days when DJs had more freedom in the music they played. He also said that demographics is a dirty word.
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ruddlescat · Joined: 16 Sep 2010 Posts: 18010 Location: Near Chester

Colin, quite clearly not everyone who happens to like Pink Floyd or any other artist hyped up by the music press is guilty of 'sheep' mentality and I'm sure you do not fall into that category and neither do most other people on here but the wider point I was making was that especially around the late 60's and early 70's there was a great deal of unjustified hype around certain artists at the expense of others who were equally or more talented but who simply did not get proper recognition as they were seen as 'uncool' by the music press and a large number of people were taken in by this

As for 'Tie A Yellow Ribbon ' and the like, back in the sixties and early seventies my grammar school was boys only but once every term the powers that be trusted us enough to allow us to visit the equivalent girls school for the end of term disco

I recall many lads in my class taking their Pink Floyd and Beefheart Albums down there and begging the unfortunate DJ to play obscure tracks from them totally unsuited to the occasion and I remember I used to tell them they must be complete idiots if they thought that kind of thing would be likely to secure them a decent girlfriend as most of the girls were into Tamla Motown, Reggae and Soul and I was usually proved right

Funnily enough I met one of those old school colleagues a while ago who told me that he was on his fourth marriage and I thought to myself that if his former spouses had been made to put up with the dreadful music he used to inflict on us in our schooldays he's lucky it's only four Laughing

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nod · Joined: 24 Dec 2006 Posts: 3558

Ruddlescat,

Please tell us you are on your first marriage and followed the "Tamla Motown, Reggae and Soul" sheep Wink

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ruddlescat · Joined: 16 Sep 2010 Posts: 18010 Location: Near Chester

Well Nod I am currently quite happily divorced and have been for more than four years but at least I have only one marriage behind me so I don't think I'm doing too badly Smile

Going back 40 years or so ago I was basically a progresssive and heavy rock fan but like most other people I did take an interest in some of the music in the charts at that time including Reggae, Soul and Tamla Motown and I never took the view that I would deny liking any music simply because that was regarded as 'uncool' if the music was something which I enjoyed
However I will admit to having a real hatred of Tony Blackburn at the time although now I listen to his shows almost avidly

I have to admit that although I have a fair knowledge of mainstream music of most genres I often tend to prefer the lesser known artists and find it so sad that many rarely if ever have their music played on British radio these days Sad

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aviddiva · Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2011 1:21 pm Post subject: Pink Floyd on R2 during Oct

Colin - I believe you were referring to David Cross in your bit about King Crimson.
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