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littlepieces · Joined: 10 Jan 2010 Posts: 1098 Location: Lowestoft

DC seems to be keeping quiet that he was a director in wheterspoons which sells cheaper beer then most pubs
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ruddlescat · Joined: 16 Sep 2010 Posts: 18010 Location: Near Chester

Weatherspoons is I think a good chain of pubs where they sell excellent beer at reasonable prices but most importantly of all they have a strict code of conduct when it comes to young people trying to get served underage and they do not tolerate any kind of trouble

I think it's far better to have people drinking in pubs where they can be kept an eye on rather than have youngsters getting tanked up on cheap cider bought from the supermarket and then engaging in serious anti social behaviour in the streets and in public parks and other similar places

I don't think whatever Cameron does it will make the slightest bit of difference because the problem is simply too deeply entrenched in our society today Sad

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R2Icon · Joined: 10 Sep 2009 Posts: 1444

To stop people, of any age, drinking alcohol, the best solution, is to stop making it. Alcohol is not required to sustain human life. It tastes awful, it makes you fall over, it dehydrates you, and if you persit with it, it kills you. Dead! It's like Domestos to a germ.

Drinking alcohol is scuicide, in slow motion. Like lambs to the slaughter, the pub goers willingly pay for their own assassination. See them each week, queuing at the bar to purchase their own death; conveniently dispensed in easy to consume drink sized chunks.

Water with ice and perhaps a slice of lemon, is the perfect drink for we humans. It goes with everything, so there's no need to be a nobby, snobby wine-buff, and it comes in many varieties, hard, soft , mineral, sea(not recomended) fresh, tap, sparkling (like me) and of course rain. Smile

ruddlescat · Joined: 16 Sep 2010 Posts: 18010 Location: Near Chester

That's fine in theory Rach but then the problem would be that alcohol would be produced illegally and the resulting product would be even more likely to result in death

You would also have a huge crime wave because the cost of illegal alcohol would be at least as much if not more than what is now charged for hard drugs and so I can't really see that as a realistic solution

In any event in a democratic society why should the sensible majority be penalised for the excesses of a fairly small minority? Mad

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Lord Evan Elpuss · Joined: 10 Dec 2006 Posts: 3415 Location: Cloud Cuckoo Land

Is this the same Shameron who, with his public school 'bullingdon club' chums, went on the rampage in hotels & restaurants creating all kinds of mayhem?
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ruddlescat · Joined: 16 Sep 2010 Posts: 18010 Location: Near Chester

I understand what you're saying Rach but life is always going to be a balance between doing things which are enjoyable and which make life worth living as against not doing silly or excessive things which might deprive you of your later years

After all people can abstain from cigarettes, alcohol, excessive eating and all other bad habits for 60 years or so only to find they contract a terminal disease at the age of 61 and are dead within a few months

I know if,God forbid, I was ever in that position I would have preferred to have had some pleasure out of life rather than thinking to mysely ' I've had a boring health obsessed existence and the dreaded lurgy got me anyway so what was really the point Smile

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R2Icon · Joined: 10 Sep 2009 Posts: 1444

I understand, Rudds. Smile

Being a non-drinker and not even liking the smell of most alcohol based drinks, I don't understand why other people think it's enjoyable to drink, I just don't get it.

Is drinking really enjoying life or just escaping from it?

Don't get me wrong , I like to go out - even to pubs on occasion, but never to drink alcohol. Hubby drinks beer, in fact, every Wednesday ( today) we have Posh Nosh and Beer Night , I spend all afternon in the kitchen making something truely delicious and with the result, I have Pomegranate and Banana smoothie, while Hubby has a bottle of Posh Beer- Double Chocolate Stout tonight- whatever that is?

But....give me a pub that sells Banana Milkshake and I'm in like a dirty shirt. Smile

ruddlescat · Joined: 16 Sep 2010 Posts: 18010 Location: Near Chester

Wow that sounds really appetising Rach - can anyone lend me a helicopter so I can get down to Dorset to try some Laughing

I like to think that I drink alcohol because I enjoy the taste and I am very fussy about what I drink - it has to be decent real ale properly served at room temperature - no lager, gassy beer or non organic cider

When I spent a month in America several years ago I used to go into the hotel bar but refused to drink their unaturally cold beer so they had to leave a case out of the fridge just for me and gradually all the locals began to enjoy beer at room temperature and by the time I left I think I had really changed their preferences for good Smile

I rarely drink wine as it doesn't tend to agree with me and as for spirits only the occasional decent 12 year old malt whisky or now and again a refreshing gin and tonic

I tend to agree that there are some people who drink alcohol in order to blot out life rather than enjoy life and I have to admit there has been the odd occasion when I've done that but it's certainly not a major reason why I like a drink and generally speaking I've always found that the social interaction which exists in pubs and other similar places for me is a very positive thing

Both of my parents were strict tea totallers but despite that my dad passed away only one year after retiring at the age of 66 which is why I don't think abstinence is guaranteed to lead to a long life but I do fully understand that there are people who just don't get anything at all out of drinking alcohol and there's nothing wrong with sticking to water or soft drinks

People tend to assume that having a long life is automatically a good thing but it really depends on one's state of health in later life - it's fine to be old if you're still enjoying life but that's not always the case which is why we frequently hear demands for assisted death where the situation demands it and there are proper safeguards in place

By the way,am I the only person who doesn't understand the title of this thread? Confused

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I thought it meant that Cameron was a hands-on sort of guy when it came to binge drinking. Smile

The new touchy-feely Conservatives- Hug a Pint...

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RockitRon · Joined: 07 Dec 2006 Posts: 7646

I think Ena Sharples drank milk stout (Mackeson's), which contained lactose and was body-building stuff (a bit superfluous in her case).

I'm no expert but I think most "stouts" nowadays are just made with extra-roasted hops and barley. I have drunk and liked Hobgoblin in the pub - it's quite a bit stronger in the bottle, I notice.

Visiting the various websites and reading the descriptions I don't think it's out of line with the rest of your list, apart from the addition of real chocolate.
Adding stuff like chocolate, and banana, lemon, rhubarb, etc might sound appealing, especially to a sweet-toothed, non-drinker like me (about 1.5 pints a week on a Friday) but they usually taste horrible, a complete waste of chocolate, bananas etc.

ruddlescat · Joined: 16 Sep 2010 Posts: 18010 Location: Near Chester

I remember a few years ago I used to buy rhubarb flavoured bottles of Ruddles County and very nice it was too - not what I would have really expected Shocked

I used to have two Old English sheepdogs and their favourite meal which I used to give them as a special treat now and again was Shredded Wheat without sugar soaked in Mackeson's stout - and if I tried to palm them off with some similar stout like Mann's they turned their noses up and wouldn't eat it

I wasn't too keen on the stuff myself but they absolutely loved it Very Happy

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