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becky sharp
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 Good one Becky! I am a great fan of Matt's cartoons.
I expect you know that his father is the humorous writer Oliver Pritchett and his grandfather was the author V.S.Pritchett. He has four children so I wonder if any of them will inherit the comedy gene? |
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I'm a great Matt fan as well.
About 12 years ago I worked as a copytaker for the Press Association, and we had a tour of the Telegraph offices as their copytaking was outsourced to us. One of the highlights of the day for me was seeing Matt sitting in his booth.  |
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| FleetingEileenM wrote: | Good one Becky! I am a great fan of Matt's cartoons.
I expect you know that his father is the humorous writer Oliver Pritchett and his grandfather was the author V.S.Pritchett. He has four children so I wonder if any of them will inherit the comedy gene? |
No,Eileen, I know nothing about him except that I like his cartoons... |
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Regarding the actual closing ceremony...
Loved Eric Idle (and the cannon), The Who, Pet Shop Boys. Thought the rest was OK, if slightly amateurish, but hated Annie Lennox and especially George Michael. How on Earth did he get away with doing his new single? |
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Loved Eric Idle as well, immediately thought he should have been last act.
Actually liked the Spice Girls,  Waterloo Sunset great as well.
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| Ian Robinson wrote: | Regarding the actual closing ceremony...
Loved Eric Idle (and the cannon) |
That was the high spot for me. It was cleverly done - the cannon about to fire, drooping down and a mysterious figure sliding out into a trapdoor in the floor, a moment of "What was the point of that?" and then Eric emerging to sing "Always Look on the Bright Side of Life" .
It was all good on the eye but most of the music was not to my taste (tho' I actually enjoyed the Spice Girls ). I don't remember the Petshop Boys but I know I succumbed to a brief zzz so perhaps that's when they were on.
However the audience and the athletes seemed to enjoy it hugely and that is what mattered. It was nice to see the great Pele at the end.
PS: What is so great about Fatboy Slim? He was referred to as something like the "greatest DJ" or similar.
Helen, just saw your post re the Spice Girls . |
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| FleetingEileenM wrote: | | That was the high spot for me. It was cleverly done - the cannon about to fire, drooping down and a mysterious figure sliding out into a trapdoor in the floor, a moment of "What was the point of that?" and then Eric emerging to sing "Always Look on the Bright Side of Life" . |
Our neighbour's youngest daughter Samira was one of the Bhangra dancers. She was second from left in the front row behind Eric Idle!
She had to sign a strict NDA (as did everyone taking part) in the months before the event so couldn't tell anybody. (Nod nod, wink wink, say no more!) |
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I watched it all from the previous "highlights" programme to the very end of the Ceremony.. over running somewhat too!
When it finished, I remember thinking I probably wouldn't bother to watch my recording again.. maybe a sign that although great, it wasn't that great.
However, this morning, I just had to see The Who and the closing minutes again, in fact twice more... this time with the bass woofer up and decent volume applied. It was fantastic... I don't see how anybody wouldn't have goosebumps after seeing the stadium ablaze with millions of those LEDs and fireworks ( plus My Generation too of course).
Praise to Mr Daltry for hitting those high notes! 
Loved the Lennon face, the Spice Girls, Who, Queen and Jessie ( she can sing! ), Kaiser Chiefs... in fact all of it although Ray Davies made me cringe a bit.. still a great song though..
An excellent Ceremony which made me feel very proud 
I'd like to know what will happen to this venue now and wil they retain all those LED modules?? ( also, where were they made?? in this country I hope Mr Cameron.. )
All in all, a big 
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I didn't think it was that good either
Yes I did enjoy Waterloo Sunset ( by the way did you know it was originally to have been called Liverpool Sunset ) and I thought The Kaiser Chiefs were good also but I thought George Michael was dreadful and what on earth was Jessie J doing wearing that silly see through body stocking
I know we were supposed to be putting on a show for the rest of the world but not that kind of show 
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I must admit I found it rather disappointing overall, it took a while to get going and seemed a little too maudlin to begin with.
That said I absolutely loved Eric Idle, I thought he was the best performer of the night with Brian May a very close second.
I love Waterloo Sunset and thought Ray Davies made a fair job of it, his voice is not what it was but he is 68 so it's not surprising.
Did feel that George Michael was only there to plug his new single, Jessie J not my taste but fair play to the girl, she can carry a tune.
I quite liked Ed Sheeran with wish you were here, thought the bit on the tightrope was very clever.
Sorry I didn't like the Spice Girls at all (had to mute them ) but found Boris dancing to them funny. |
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| Toggy wrote: | I love Waterloo Sunset and thought Ray Davies made a fair job of it, his voice is not what it was but he is 68 so it's not surprising.
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As he came on I said to O/H that I didn't think his voice is very good these days, but thought he did quite well with it. I think we sometimes forget our favourites are all getting on a bit. 
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| SantaFefan wrote: | I watched it all from the previous "highlights" programme to the very end of the Ceremony.. over running somewhat too!
When it finished, I remember thinking I probably wouldn't bother to watch my recording again.. maybe a sign that although great, it wasn't that great.
However, this morning, I just had to see The Who and the closing minutes again, in fact twice more... this time with the bass woofer up and decent volume applied. It was fantastic... I don't see how anybody wouldn't have goosebumps after seeing the stadium ablaze with millions of those LEDs and fireworks ( plus My Generation too of course).
Praise to Mr Daltry for hitting those high notes! |
It had been patchy but I thought from the moment John Barry's Dances With Wolves theme accompanied the torch going out, then Take That, then The Who... was fantastic. They clearly started with the end and worked backwards.
Oh, and the best version of Waterloo Sunset is by Cathy Dennis anyway! |
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| Helen May wrote: | | Toggy wrote: | I love Waterloo Sunset and thought Ray Davies made a fair job of it, his voice is not what it was but he is 68 so it's not surprising.
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As he came on I said to O/H that I didn't think his voice is very good these days, but thought he did quite well with it. I think we sometimes forget our favourites are all getting on a bit.
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I don't know, H.
If ever we are in danger of forgetting, you can guarantee one of the triple axis of Paul McCartney, Elton John or Cliff Richard will pop up to jog our memory!
I was just trying to imagine who would have been worse the other night - them or what we did get - Emeli Sandé, Fat Boy Slim and Ed Sheeran.
Too close to call.
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According to our neighbour's daughter, who was one of the singers and dancers accompanying Eric Idle, the biggest complaint of many of the performers on the night was the bad in-ear wireless foldback system. Some people couldn't hear the sound at all and were thrown by their only alternative sound reference - the main stadium speaker system which is subject to a delay. This, apparently, is what threw Paul McCartney on the opening night.
Under the circumstances I think all of the performers coped exceedingly well. Of all the "covers", I thought Ed Sheeran's interpretation of Pink Floyd's "Wish you were here" was very good, too.
Stars of the show, for me, were Jessie J (who I just love!) and The Who. They did their own singing, too. Then again, The Spice Girls' routine was pretty good and definitely inventive, but they didn't do their own singing (but, then again, did Victoria ever sing at all?). Never mind. |
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What do you mean the Spice Girls didn't do their own singing? Mel B and Mel C (who always carried them anyway) sounded live, even if the others weren't.
| RockitRon wrote: | | Helen May wrote: | | Toggy wrote: | I love Waterloo Sunset and thought Ray Davies made a fair job of it, his voice is not what it was but he is 68 so it's not surprising.
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As he came on I said to O/H that I didn't think his voice is very good these days, but thought he did quite well with it. I think we sometimes forget our favourites are all getting on a bit.
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I don't know, H.
If ever we are in danger of forgetting, you can guarantee one of the triple axis of Paul McCartney, Elton John or Cliff Richard will pop up to jog our memory!
I was just trying to imagine who would have been worse the other night - them or what we did get - Emeli Sandé, Fat Boy Slim and Ed Sheeran.
Too close to call. |
Where's Phil Collins been in all of this, eh? He seems to have been written out of British Pop History! |
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| As have The Rolling Stones, if the closing ceremony is anything to go by. That was, for me, the most astonishing omission! Not a mention anywhere..... |
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Didn't I hear a couple of years back that Phil Collins had a medical complaint whereby he can't play the drums anymore? something to do with his hands... 
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| SantaFefan wrote: | | Didn't I hear a couple of years back that Phil Collins had a medical complaint whereby he can't play the drums anymore? something to do with his hands... |
Yes. He took the decision not long after completing the "Genesis: Live Over Europe" tour in 2007. Mind you, he was singing out front and I think Darryl Sturmer was doing most of the drumming! |
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| ColinB wrote: | | As have The Rolling Stones, if the closing ceremony is anything to go by. That was, for me, the most astonishing omission! Not a mention anywhere..... |
But remember, Colin, the Rolling Stones never feature in any 60s compliation anywhere-ever, even though they were all over it (the 60s)like a rash- the fact that some of their music was in the opening ceremony was fantastic irony. Just brilliant. Not there because they should be ( and they should) but because they never have been. Not being in the closing ceremony is exactly what you would expect because that is the Rolling Stones. |
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But remember, Colin, the Rolling Stones never feature in any 60s compliation anywhere-ever, even though they were all over it (the 60s)like a rash |
That's also true of the Beatles' music; it is very rarely licensed in compilations and that's always been the case.
The Rolling Stones are perhaps the second most important act from the 60s and - unlike many other 60s bands - managed to morph into an incredibly good touring rock band from the early 70s onwards. And they've stayed the course even if a number of the original line-up have dropped away.
They're every bit as important to Britain's cultural heritage as The Who, who got the prime spot in the closing bash. That's why I find it odd that they weren't acknowledged in any way, whereas there were lots of obvious and implied Beatles references (Newspaper taxies, Magical Mystery Tour bus, etc). Very odd.
| R2Icon wrote: | | the fact that some of their music was in the opening ceremony was fantastic irony. Just brilliant. Not there because they should be ( and they should) but because they never have been. Not being in the closing ceremony is exactly what you would expect because that is the Rolling Stones. |
Yes, but I'm talking about the Closing Ceremony. Lots of musicians and songwriters who were featured in the first were also featured in the second event. |
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| ColinB wrote: | | R2Icon wrote: |
But remember, Colin, the Rolling Stones never feature in any 60s compliation anywhere-ever, even though they were all over it (the 60s)like a rash |
That's also true of the Beatles' music; it is very rarely licensed in compilations and that's always been the case.
The Rolling Stones are perhaps the second most important act from the 60s and - unlike many other 60s bands - managed to morph into an incredibly good touring rock band from the early 70s onwards. And they've stayed the course even if a number of the original line-up have dropped away.
They're every bit as important to Britain's cultural heritage as The Who, who got the prime spot in the closing bash. That's why I find it odd that they weren't acknowledged in any way, whereas there were lots of obvious and implied Beatles references (Newspaper taxies, Magical Mystery Tour bus, etc). Very odd.
| R2Icon wrote: | | the fact that some of their music was in the opening ceremony was fantastic irony. Just brilliant. Not there because they should be ( and they should) but because they never have been. Not being in the closing ceremony is exactly what you would expect because that is the Rolling Stones. |
Yes, but I'm talking about the Closing Ceremony. Lots of musicians and songwriters who were featured in the first were also featured in the second event. |
That's what I'm saying. Danny Boyle put the Stones in the Opening Ceremony because he was being ironic, not because he thought they should be there but because everyone would know that they wouldn't be. The chap who did the Closing Ceremony didn't put them in because no one else ever has or will, no matter how much we would like them to. That is the way of things. |
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| ColinB wrote: | | whereas there were lots of obvious and implied Beatles references (Newspaper taxies, Magical Mystery Tour bus, etc). Very odd. |
 Of course... Newspaper Taxies.... I didn't pick up on that.. 
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Well, I think the Rolling Stones are miserable bastards.. much as I loved their music, this "hiding away from the media" has passed it's sell by date. They're all old gits who should have made the most of the oportunity to play the greatest gig of their lives... for their country and their fans!! 
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| SantaFefan wrote: | | Well, I think the Rolling Stones are miserable bastards.. : |
I like that.
Me too. Hubby and I both howled with laughter when they popped up in the opening ceremony after both of us had just said .... I bet there's no Stones, cos there never is..... |
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| Sorry, are we talking about the same Rolling Stones here? The band who happily license their music to adverts and films and anywhere else there's money to be made? Can't say I've ever noticed a dearth of their music. |
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| SantaFefan wrote: | | Well, I think the Rolling Stones are miserable bastards.. : |
Nonsense. Lots of acts didn't appear (and perhaps weren't invited?) - David Bowie being just another one. i don't see why their non-appearance qualifies the tag "miserable bastards". That's just daft. If that's what they are then so are a zillion other acts! |
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| SantaFefan wrote: | | Didn't I hear a couple of years back that Phil Collins had a medical complaint whereby he can't play the drums anymore? something to do with his hands... |
He has problems with his back & suffers from bad tinnitus so he has effectively retired from the music business. |
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Yes, I remember him saying it physically hurts him to play.. a great shame for any drummer...
I'm standing by my "miserable bastards" tag Colin.. for many years now, I've thought Mick Jagger in particular should lever himself away from La La land and the over adoring Yanks and show his craggy mush in this country for a change.. the country which made him in the first place and yes, I'm going to say it, when they were actually good!
This low profile, "Elvis / Col Saunders" type caper is great when you're on the way up but surely at his age, he could "lower" himself to engage the British public through the odd chat show or something?
Lets face it, they won't be gigging for much longer so wouldn't this have been a nice "Thank you" to the UK??
That is if they were even asked of course...
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The Stones are touring next year and I'll be paying to see the greatest rock band in the world again (I've seen them loads and they're the best). Even my 28-year-old son and his mates want to attend.
So...... what if they didn't want to appear at the Olympics closing ceremony? Who cares? Not me..... they're still an amazing rock band who remain unequalled by many wannabes, even if they do have wrinkles. |
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To me for years the Stones seem to have been carrying on with a huge chip on their collective shoulders as a result of the fact that they have always been seen as second rate compared to the Beatles
Whilst I don't necessarily agree with that assessment I was never a great fan of either of them although they both clearly contributed a great deal to music and popular culture
I do tend to agree with Santa in respect of many of his comments
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I don't think the Stones have ever had such a chip - it's a myth. When you see them live you can see that they're totally at one with their Blues/R&B/Rock roots and they work together so well on stage. Unbelievably well, in fact. It's amazing that after all these years they can still hack it on stage and give the impression that they're much younger than they are..... and the music is still great. And that's why so many younger bands look up to the Stones and what they've done and can still do. Good on 'em.
My personal favourite? Under My Thumb. And Tumbling Dice. And Wild Horses. And Midnight Rambler. And....... oh, I give up. Just everything. The best rock band ever. Best gig I ever attended was the 1976 Knebworth Festival. They came on late at 11.00pm (isn) and played way into the early hours under a clear starlit sky sky. Heaven!
So they didn't play the Olympics ceremony. So what?
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Well, obviously I care.. but I only "care" if they should think they are too good to appear... which of course I'm only surmising.
Greatest rock band in the world? unequalled by many wannabes? 
maybe at one time, but they finished with "Start Me Up"... there's been nothing since, only memories, nostalgia and lots of money..
My point is, no matter how successful one is, there surely comes a time when it all becomes irrelevant and at that time, it would just be nice to "join in" and show some appreciation to your home crowd.. d'ya think?
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| SantaFefan wrote: | Well, obviously I care.. but I only "care" if they should think they are too good to appear... which of course I'm only surmising.
Greatest rock band in the world? unequalled by many wannabes?
maybe at one time, but they finished with "Start Me Up"... there's been nothing since, only memories, nostalgia and lots of money.. |
And some truly great performances. That's what it's all about for me.
| SantaFefan wrote: | | My point is, no matter how successful one is, there surely comes a time when it all becomes irrelevant and at that time, it would just be nice to "join in" and show some appreciation to your home crowd.. d'ya think? |
That's their choice, isn't it? Like I said - perhaps they weren't invited. |
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As I said, I'm only surmising based on the rumours before the closing ceremony that they might appear..
Don't get me wrong, I loved the Stones back in their day  and I still like to see them, but as with Sting and fat boy Elton John, there's been nothing of any worth for decades... just their bank rolls to produce bland pap..
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I agree, The Stones are and always will be the world's greatest rock'n' roll band. After 50 years who can argue? -though I'd be the first to admit they've not done much since 1981. Tattoo You was their last good album.
As the second most successful band of the 60s they certainly should have been represented at the opening or closing ceremonies, though they don't have a good record for appearing at concerts unless they are paid. Charity and celebration are unknown concepts to them.
It was good to hear The Beatles again at the closing, with 'A Day In The Life', albeit just a segment, and Russell Brand doing 'I Am The Walrus'. George Michael went on for far too long (good plug for his new single).
Madness were, as always, appalling but I suppose they are professional Londoners as well as being just a very bad karaoke covers band. The ubiquitous Annie Lennox was just about acceptable, if a little self obsessed.
'Waterloo Sunset' is probably the most evocative London song ever, though I was a bit disappointed with Ray Davies. Perhaps they could have just played a recording of the song to a backdrop of London scenes or the sunset over the capital to represent the closing of a great Olympics. |
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| SantaFefan wrote: | | That is if they were even asked of course... |
They were asked. Jagger was keen, but the others said no. |
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| SantaFefan wrote: | | Don't get me wrong, I loved the Stones back in their day and I still like to see them, but as with Sting and fat boy Elton John, there's been nothing of any worth for decades... just their bank rolls to produce bland pap.. |
That's my point. They might not do records (records don't sell in great numbers these days anyhow - not for the majority of artists) but they have toured and it's on stage where they excel, so they have done something of worth actually quite recently! The Stones live are still fabulous. I like live performances first and foremost and a large venue is the best place to appreciate the band.
Btw - I heard rumours that The Who were doing the closing ceremony but I heard nothing about the Stones. What does mystify me is that there weren't even any hints of Stones music in the main sequences - yet there were lots of snippets of Beatles work throughout. Very odd. Perhaps Danny Boyle doesn't appreciate the band either. |
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SantaFefan
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| Schizoidman wrote: |
As the second most successful band of the 60s they certainly should have been represented at the opening or closing ceremonies, though they don't have a good record for appearing at concerts unless they are paid. Charity and celebration are unknown concepts to them.
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Exactly my point.. miserable bastards...
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SantaFefan
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| Ian Robinson wrote: | | SantaFefan wrote: | | That is if they were even asked of course... |
They were asked. Jagger was keen, but the others said no. |
Well, if that's the case then good for him... perhaps he should have appreared with David Bowie to do "Dancing in the Streets"
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